Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. If PHP is an option, you can produce a different 'effect' by having an array and randomly selecting the content. At it's simplest level this can just be an image, like this: ?php $location = array ( array(location='Treyarnon Bay', image='treyarnon.jpg'), array(location='Trevose Head', image='trevose.jpg'), array(location='Padstow', image='padstow.jpg'), array(location='Constantine bay', image='constantine.jpg'), array(location='Showery Tor', image='showerytor.jpg'), array(location='Bedruthan', image='bedruthan.jpg'), array(location='Treyarnon Dusk', image='treyarnondusk.jpg'), array(location='Carnewas', image='carnewas.jpg'), ); $numlocations=sizeof($location); $row = (rand(0,($numlocations-1))); $num=$row+1; echo img src=\openingpage/graphics/.$location[$row][image] .\ alt=\\ /p.$location[$row][location]./p; ? Or you can go completely over the top and have the array consisting of as many 'pages' as you like, selecting randomly as above. You can do the latter by linking to pages, by changing the CSS, etc etc. It's not perfect of course, but it doesn't use cookies, it doesn't need JS, it's simple, and it's robust. HTH, -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I realized that my interpretation would outlaw this: div img /div and surely that must be okay, no? I am confused, what problem do you try to solve? Yes, according to specification and DTD as shown earlier it is ok to have inline, block, or mixed content in DIV. Semantics don't have much to do with it - as you may have valid reasons to wrap single word (or image, or link) in SPAN you may have valid reasons to wrap it in DIV - they are both generic containers. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
We are discussing the current draft of html5: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#block-level btw, my example of div img /div was not a good one as the proposed new rule allows either inline OR blcok level elements within a div, just not both. however it does seem to say this would not be allowed, which makes no sense to me: div img p/p /div -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Rimantas Liubertas wrote: I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I realized that my interpretation would outlaw this: div img /div and surely that must be okay, no? I am confused, what problem do you try to solve? Yes, according to specification and DTD as shown earlier it is ok to have inline, block, or mixed content in DIV. Semantics don't have much to do with it - as you may have valid reasons to wrap single word (or image, or link) in SPAN you may have valid reasons to wrap it in DIV - they are both generic containers. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Target 1st item in list
On 27 Jul 2007, at 00:08, Nick Roper wrote: I need to target the 1st item in a list. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/selector.html#first-child But: http://www.webdevout.net/browser-support-css#css2pseudoclasses -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I realized that my interpretation would outlaw this: div img /div and surely that must be okay, no? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- E Michael Brandt wrote: I am going to disagree with my own last statement - it may be valid in the sense that it passes Validation testing online, but surely it is not semantically reasonable to have bare text. I am less sure myself about the semantics of bare a tags, but for the sake of symmetry.. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] HELP with CSS
Hi Olajide Your page suffers from a common ailment. You are approaching CSS before structural markup. You need to re-build your page with semantic markup and then apply the CSS. Here are some common problems that you have. Multiple h1 elements. The H1 should only appear once and should define the whole page. Flyer Design and Nu' Image... should be h3 elements. Div class=thumbnail is repeated. Divs have no structure and are just a container. This should be an unordered list with each div an li and class=thumbnail applied to the ul Why are you using a block quote when there is no quote inside? p In 2005, me and a couple of the youth took on this project to start a youth magazine for the church. Here is the outcome. Designed by yours truely. /p This is a statement by yourself and you are not referencing an outside source. The blockqoute is an incorrect use. Don't use inline images to replace a simple background color: li img src=images/red.gif alt=Olajide Olaolorun height=40 width=40 /li li img src=images/red.gif alt=Olajide Olaolorun height=40 width=40 /li Be careful with using color:#fff without applying a background color to the container. Look at your site with images disabled, white on white text is not very useful. To repeat, you're not alone. Too many people approach CSS without having a good understanding of structural markup. Your code will be bloated and you will end up with complicated CSS until you understand how to use the structural elements correctly. Ted Drake www.last-child.com -- From: Olajide Olaolorun Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:18 PM To: WSG Subject: [WSG] HELP with CSS Can someone help me out here: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/ There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out. -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Huh... I had considered using PHP for something similar. I honestly wouldnt have thought to use it like that. I appreciate it you have given me a great idea. If it works ill post my results :) --D On 7/27/07, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. If PHP is an option, you can produce a different 'effect' by having an array and randomly selecting the content. At it's simplest level this can just be an image, like this: ?php $location = array ( array(location='Treyarnon Bay', image='treyarnon.jpg'), array(location='Trevose Head', image='trevose.jpg'), array(location='Padstow', image='padstow.jpg'), array(location='Constantine bay', image='constantine.jpg'), array(location='Showery Tor', image='showerytor.jpg'), array(location='Bedruthan', image='bedruthan.jpg'), array(location='Treyarnon Dusk', image='treyarnondusk.jpg'), array(location='Carnewas', image='carnewas.jpg'), ); $numlocations=sizeof($location); $row = (rand(0,($numlocations-1))); $num=$row+1; echo img src=\openingpage/graphics/.$location[$row][image] .\ alt=\\ /p.$location[$row][location]./p; ? Or you can go completely over the top and have the array consisting of as many 'pages' as you like, selecting randomly as above. You can do the latter by linking to pages, by changing the CSS, etc etc. It's not perfect of course, but it doesn't use cookies, it doesn't need JS, it's simple, and it's robust. HTH, -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] HELP with CSS
Hello Ted There is, somewhere, a reference or tutorial of how can we read and learn about the structural way and css? I have look around many and many approaches to this subject, in many and many different ways like books, googling and sources. Its hard to pick one. Any of them always have a catch, and it is much more difficult if you write code from interpreted scripts like I do. Thanks in advance Rafael -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Ted Drake Enviada em: sexta-feira, 27 de julho de 2007 14:31 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: RE: [WSG] HELP with CSS Hi Olajide Your page suffers from a common ailment. You are approaching CSS before structural markup. You need to re-build your page with semantic markup and then apply the CSS. Here are some common problems that you have. Multiple h1 elements. The H1 should only appear once and should define the whole page. Flyer Design and Nu' Image... should be h3 elements. Div class=thumbnail is repeated. Divs have no structure and are just a container. This should be an unordered list with each div an li and class=thumbnail applied to the ul Why are you using a block quote when there is no quote inside? p In 2005, me and a couple of the youth took on this project to start a youth magazine for the church. Here is the outcome. Designed by yours truely. /p This is a statement by yourself and you are not referencing an outside source. The blockqoute is an incorrect use. Don't use inline images to replace a simple background color: li img src=images/red.gif alt=Olajide Olaolorun height=40 width=40 /li li img src=images/red.gif alt=Olajide Olaolorun height=40 width=40 /li Be careful with using color:#fff without applying a background color to the container. Look at your site with images disabled, white on white text is not very useful. To repeat, you're not alone. Too many people approach CSS without having a good understanding of structural markup. Your code will be bloated and you will end up with complicated CSS until you understand how to use the structural elements correctly. Ted Drake www.last-child.com -- From: Olajide Olaolorun Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:18 PM To: WSG Subject: [WSG] HELP with CSS Can someone help me out here: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/ There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out. -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
