Re: RE : Re: [WSG] Height for the select markup in Internet Explorer
If changing the font size for the select tag (to alter the size of the select box to what you want) doesn't work for you, I'm a little unclear about what you are trying to acheive here. -- Stuart Foulstone. http://www.bigeasyweb.co.uk BigEasy Web Design 69 Flockton Court Rockingham Street Sheffield S1 4EB Tel. 07751 413451 On Sun, August 26, 2007 2:56 pm, Pierre-Henri Lavigne wrote: Yes exacly, I'm trying to avoid a higher select size while the option value are in upper case letters. While googling again, doesn't seem possible as Dusan told. Like similar issues with Mac OS browsers. Anyway I may try with line-height --- Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Do you mean something like: .selectlist { color: #00; font: 1.1em bold Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: #cc; } with, select name=options class=selectlist ... where changing the font-height also changes the height of the select menu dropdown box? -- Stuart Foulstone. http://www.bigeasyweb.co.uk BigEasy Web Design 69 Flockton Court Rockingham Street Sheffield S1 4EB Tel. 07751 413451 On Sat, August 25, 2007 11:49 pm, Pierre-Henri Lavigne wrote: Good day, Does someone know a solution or a tip to set a height for the select tag in form, especially with Internet Explorer ? I've just got the case with a design that set an input and a select in the same line, and the select has every option in upper case letters. Thanks for your feedack, Regards, Peter Faites des appels de PC à PC dans le monde entier ! Essayez le nouveau Yahoo! Québec Messenger avec Voix. http://cf.messenger.yahoo.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Faites des appels de PC à PC dans le monde entier ! Essayez le nouveau Yahoo! Québec Messenger avec Voix. http://cf.messenger.yahoo.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Web Developer toolbar for firefox 2.x
Hayden's Harness Attachment wrote: I do not know if this is off topic. If it is please excuse me. I have the web developer toolbar that works with Firefox upto 1.5 and when I try to upgrade for my Firefox 2.x, I get an error. What error are you getting? Web Developer Toolbar works just fine for me in Firefox 2.x. Is their a web developer toolbar for Fire fox 2.x? If so, where can I download it? The extension can be downloaded from the Mozilla add-ons website: https://addons.update.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60 The developer's website is at: http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ But you will need to add the site the 'exceptions' for being allowed to install software. Rob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standards friendly 'page tagging' web stats
Patrick, reports based on server log files are considerably limiting. For example, visitors are generally identified by IP and Session ID. This doesn't tell me if the person is a repeat customer, or how often they frequent the website, and also provides more accurate filtering of non-human user agents (as UAs don't tend to render the HTML or executive the JS). yes ... but you also won't see any browsers that don't have javascript (such as most mobile phone browsers) so if you want to see EVERY browser that people might use to look at your site you will still need to get that information from the server logs. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Web Developer toolbar for firefox 2.x
Rob Crowther wrote: Hayden's Harness Attachment wrote: I do not know if this is off topic. If it is please excuse me. I have the web developer toolbar that works with Firefox upto 1.5 and when I try to upgrade for my Firefox 2.x, I get an error. In some circumstances, an upgrade from 1.5 to 2.x can fall foul of some profile issues. If all else fails, I'd recommend backing up your bookmarks, making a note of the extensions you've got installed, completely uninstalling 1.5 (and the related profile directory), and starting with a completely fresh 2.x install. A pain, I know... P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ Take it to the streets ... join the WaSP Street Team http://streetteam.webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] will Eric Meyer�s CSS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
Please don't be misguided by the subject :) http://www.webassist.com/professional/products/productdetails.asp? PID=135RID=930 I am just curious, what you do guys think of the dreamweaver extension like this one and the PVll CSS layout Magic, and the Google Blueprint ? Can they take over the carefully crafted CSS and structural markup you deliver to your clients? There first one even take care of IE browsers. I notice fewer people ask me to do CSS and XHTML templates lately :) tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
If your job is making plain looking, cookie cutter templates, then yes, tools like these will put you out of a job. I see CSS as a box of watercolors; you can do really simple things with it, and you can do really complex things too. I doubt there will ever be software that can replicate the kinds of complex things I do with CSS, and that's why I'm not afraid of being replaced. And by the way, Blueprint is not a Google project, it's a project by Olav Bjorkoy that just so happens to be hosted on Google Code. And it's a CSS framework, which means that it can make your job easier (and help you make more money). It won't replace anything. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net .. designtocss.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
My opinion is that are tools to help speed up things that take a lot of time by hand. Like using Dreamweaver instead of Notepad to write web pages. The faster we can get our work done, the more competitive our prices can be, the more work we can take in. I'm all over it!! On 8/27/07, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't be misguided by the subject :) http://www.webassist.com/professional/products/productdetails.asp? PID=135RID=930 I am just curious, what you do guys think of the dreamweaver extension like this one and the PVll CSS layout Magic, and the Google Blueprint ? Can they take over the carefully crafted CSS and structural markup you deliver to your clients? There first one even take care of IE browsers. I notice fewer people ask me to do CSS and XHTML templates lately :) tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Frederick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer�s C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
That's the same short sighted question asked when WYSIWYG editors were introduced. If something like this is making you fear for your career, you really need to reevaluate if you are even in the right feild let alone career. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] will Eric Meyers CSS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
Tee, My understanding is that the tools being rolled out now are intended to streamline the production of basic layouts. We've used the Yahoo UI library to do that for a while; simple to be competitive on pricing. I know the bigger studios spend a lot of time developing pixel-perfect designs, usually on an elastic layout. We don't often attract the projects and budgets that would justify that level of quality. There has been a couple of years where quite basic page layouts have needed a lot of hours from experienced CSS developers to produce - I reckon those years are over and advanced CSS skills won't be used as often in smaller production teams. There will continue to be a place for highly skilled and experienced front-end developers in the bigger studios. This is a shift in the economics of website production; so yeah, have another think about career path. Remember, these days any designer can create a complex PDF file that can printed straight away - no need for the old technical skills to do colour separations and prepare printing plates! Complex and repetitive work will always be under pressure from engineering solutions. Fashionable design will always be under pressure from younger and cooler designers. I'm gonna get shares in Adobe and RMIT! Cheers Paul Paul Minty Director mintleaf studio We design create stylish websites Post: Box 6 108 Flinders Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Level 2 108 Flinders Street Melbourne T. 03 9662 9344 F. 03 9662 9255 M. 0418 307 475 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mintleafstudio.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tee G. Peng Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 10:16 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] will Eric Meyers CSS SCULPTOR put me out of job? Please don't be misguided by the subject :) http://www.webassist.com/professional/products/productdetails.asp? PID=135RID=930 I am just curious, what you do guys think of the dreamweaver extension like this one and the PVll CSS layout Magic, and the Google Blueprint ? Can they take over the carefully crafted CSS and structural markup you deliver to your clients? There first one even take care of IE browsers. I notice fewer people ask me to do CSS and XHTML templates lately :) tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] will Eric Meyers C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
You could also look at Yahoo's YUI grids css project which is essentially doing the same thing but supported by Yahoo. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/ I've had good experiences with it... Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyers C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
Does anyone have many experience with http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ ? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] will Eric Meyers C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
Hi, Apart from a cursory look, no. This looks pretty straightforward. Advantages with YUI however are that: - it allows you to nest elements to create 'grids' (think easy cross browser css columns within columns) - it uses one central css file instead of different css files for each layout - you need only change an id / id's in certain elements to affect changes - not load in different stylesheets Paul (yui fanboi) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyers C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
Sry all, a little out of topic title. To Paul: i have visited your mintleafstudio and see there'r some probs, i view within both FireFox 2.0 and IE 6.0 in Window but your content column dropped down (Resolution: 1024x768). I think it needs a little width there. Cheers, Spirit. On 8/28/07, Paul Minty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tee, My understanding is that the tools being rolled out now are intended to streamline the production of basic layouts. We've used the Yahoo UI library to do that for a while; simple to be competitive on pricing. I know the bigger studios spend a lot of time developing pixel-perfect designs, usually on an elastic layout. We don't often attract the projects and budgets that would justify that level of quality. There has been a couple of years where quite basic page layouts have needed a lot of hours from experienced CSS developers to produce - I reckon those years are over and advanced CSS skills won't be used as often in smaller production teams. There will continue to be a place for highly skilled and experienced front-end developers in the bigger studios. This is a shift in the economics of website production; so yeah, have another think about career path. Remember, these days any designer can create a complex PDF file that can printed straight away - no need for the old technical skills to do colour separations and prepare printing plates! Complex and repetitive work will always be under pressure from engineering solutions. Fashionable design will always be under pressure from younger and cooler designers. I'm gonna get shares in Adobe and RMIT! Cheers Paul Paul Minty Director mintleaf studio We design create stylish websites Post: Box 6 108 Flinders Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Level 2 108 Flinders Street Melbourne T. 03 9662 9344 F. 03 9662 9255 M. 0418 307 475 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mintleafstudio.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tee G. Peng Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 10:16 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] will Eric Meyer s CSS SCULPTOR put me out of job? Please don't be misguided by the subject :) http://www.webassist.com/professional/products/productdetails.asp? PID=135RID=930 I am just curious, what you do guys think of the dreamweaver extension like this one and the PVll CSS layout Magic, and the Google Blueprint ? Can they take over the carefully crafted CSS and structural markup you deliver to your clients? There first one even take care of IE browsers. I notice fewer people ask me to do CSS and XHTML templates lately :) tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- http://spirit.q9-gaming.com/en/ Spirit's Inside: Blog Design *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyer's CSS SCULPTOR put me out o f job?
From: Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just curious, what you do guys think of the dreamweaver extension like this one and the PVll CSS layout Magic, and the Google Blueprint ? Can they take over the carefully crafted CSS and structural markup you deliver to your clients? There first one even take care of IE browsers. Both products produce standards-based CSS layouts that work in modern browsers (ours also addresses IE5.0x, too). I can only speak for our product (CSS Layout Magic). It is a rapid deployment (one click) tool that produces a minimally styled, structurally sound layout set up with easy-to-edit faux column images. The idea is that you get a rock-solid structure on which to build and enhance. While Jakob Neilsen might consider it a finished design, we don't :-). You have to have a basic understanding of CSS and markup to use these tools to their full potential, other wise the pages you produce will always look like a rental house with white walls (in this case, a lot of yellow). The faux images approach allows quick customization to easily turn this: http://www.projectseven.com/products/templates/pagepacks/cssmagic/cssmagic08.htm into this: http://www.projectseven.com/products/templates/pagepacks/cssmagic/tweaks/rounded/fixed/ A little texture, some shadow, and voila, in less than an hour one can have a decent home page comp to show a client. I notice fewer people ask me to do CSS and XHTML templates lately :) If what you mean above is that you are having web designers hire you to do a page structure, then I can see where products like this might have a small impact, but neither of the products is targeted at end users. -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Extending Dreamweaver - Nav Systems | Galleries | Widgets Authors: 42nd Street: Mastering the Art of CSS Design *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***