[WSG] inline floated right problem in Firefox
With inline element, take p for example, when a span element is floated right, and placed after the content of the p, it drops to second line in Firefox (not sure about IE, as I never check it). pThis is a paragraph. span class=f-right' a span class floated right /span /p or pThis is a paragraph. /p span class=f-right' a span class floated right /span If I arrange it like so then it stays at the same line and this is how I always do (and know it works for IE). pspan class=f-right' a span class floated right /span This is a paragraph. /p or span class=f-right' a span class floated right /span pThis is a paragraph. /p But it's not always a desirable workaround, for instance, I am working on an account login page, where, in the dashboard, I want to have something like this: Contact Information Edit h5Contact Information span class=f-rightEdit/spanh5 Structurally I think it's more appropriate to have the above markup than this: span class=f-rightEdit/span h5Contact Information/h5 But Firefox doesn't corporate. I don't want to add extra code to have the h5 floated left and force it to display block. Any idea how I can have the cake and eat it too? Thanks! tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Jump Menu Title attributes
Hi All, What is the best title attribute wording to indicate a link is a jump link (page navigation links)? Thank you very much, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Jump Menu Title attributes
Hi Kevin, What is the best title attribute wording to indicate a link is a jump link (page navigation links)? using the title attribute on a link to describe its purpose means that the information will not be available to the 2 user groups that the skip link is primarily designed to aid. 1. keyboard only users 2.screen reader users info about the accessibility of title attrbutes on links is available : http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=37 On 12/03/2008, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, What is the best title attribute wording to indicate a link is a jump link (page navigation links)? Thank you very much, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Jump Menu Title attributes
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Faulkner Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:12 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Jump Menu Title attributes Hi Kevin, What is the best title attribute wording to indicate a link is a jump link (page navigation links)? using the title attribute on a link to describe its purpose means that the information will not be available to the 2 user groups that the skip link is primarily designed to aid. 1. keyboard only users 2.screen reader users info about the accessibility of title attrbutes on links is available : http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=37 Great stuff, thanks -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] inline floated right problem in Firefox
Hi Rachel,
Sorry, I was very tired when I wrote the message, obviously I wasn't
being clear and very confused myself about 'inline element' in what I
was trying to illustrate in my example - you are right about paragraph
and heading are block-level elements. What I meant actually was,
'inline content' or 'inline formatting content' - they are probably
the same meaning, but my brain has difficulty to convey/understand
English when I get very tired, so I am not 100% fully sure what I try
to explain :-)
Thank you for the suggestion about using absolute position in the span
class, unless I am missing something that I don't already know, but I
don't think it will work well for the layout I am working.
Anyhow, please see the example in this page:
http://lotusseedsdesign.com/firefoxbug.html
I have not tested this page in IE as my Parallels desktop has
networking issue and I can't connect to the Internet from Windows XP,
so I am not 100% sure if the problem only occur in Gecko browsers.
Thanks!
tee
On Mar 12, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Rachel May wrote:
Hi Tee,
Without seeing an example I'm a bit confused by your question as
paragraph and heading tags are already block-level elements by
default...
Another method to try (depending on what content you are putting in
the tags) could be to use positioning instead:
h5Contact Information spanEdit/span/h5
h5{
position: relative;
}
h5 span{
position: absolute;
right: 0;
}
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Re: [WSG] inline floated right problem in Firefox
tee wrote: http://lotusseedsdesign.com/firefoxbug.html I have not tested this page in IE as my Parallels desktop has networking issue and I can't connect to the Internet from Windows XP, so I am not 100% sure if the problem only occur in Gecko browsers. IE/win handles it like Firefox. Gecko and IE have one interpretation of such float line-ups, and Opera and Safari have another. I prefer the Op/Saf one since it works well for all cases, but it's probably the wrong one :-) Float first is the only cross-browser reliable solution, but it doesn't always suit the case. I sometimes use the alternative styled into your example 2... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/tee/test_08_0313.html ...but it has the same potential overlapping effect as absolute positioning has, and does therefore only work well in some cases. A better alternative is what I have overstyled a bit in the added example 2-b, as there's no chance of overlapping in such a reverse styled case, and the source-order is the the same as the visual order. One more span needed though. Sorry for the mess, but I don't have time to create a new demo right now. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Standards compliant CMS?
Hi WSGers, We're currently looking to move all of our websites to a single Content Management System. As part of the CMS evaluation process we're interested in finding out what's currently in use out there. So my question is three fold: 1) What CMS system do you use to manage multiple websites? 2) How well has your CMS held up to expectations? Does it handle scaling, was it easy to learn, what were the drawbacks (if any)? 3) Does your CMS solution get in the way of producing elegant, standards compliant websites? Is there special considerations for standards and accessibility built into your CMS? There's lots of solutions out there, but unfortunately for many it's not a simple apples-to-apples comparison. Cheers, Sarah -- -- Sarah Simmonds - Melbourne IT Web Developer Member of the Web Standards Group Member of the Web Industry Professionals Association Graduate Computer Scientist, RMIT - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standards compliant CMS?
I have developed my own cms system - it does not limit designs at all - let your designer go wild. It is very easy to use for the end user. 100% standards compliant (unless the person that creates the sites templates does not know what they are doing). I found the problem with most solutions is that they are bloatware - ie way to many features with no real benefits. The way my system works is that I can easily plugin modules as my clients need them - ie. Ecommerce system, blog, forum etc. I can create basic apps in a matter of a few hours. It is written with PHP5 (utilising zend framework). I think that for me the investment in time building an inhouse solution has been really worth it. Cheers Adam On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Sarah Simmonds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi WSGers, We're currently looking to move all of our websites to a single Content Management System. As part of the CMS evaluation process we're interested in finding out what's currently in use out there. So my question is three fold: 1) What CMS system do you use to manage multiple websites? 2) How well has your CMS held up to expectations? Does it handle scaling, was it easy to learn, what were the drawbacks (if any)? 3) Does your CMS solution get in the way of producing elegant, standards compliant websites? Is there special considerations for standards and accessibility built into your CMS? There's lots of solutions out there, but unfortunately for many it's not a simple apples-to-apples comparison. Cheers, Sarah -- -- Sarah Simmonds - Melbourne IT Web Developer Member of the Web Standards Group Member of the Web Industry Professionals Association Graduate Computer Scientist, RMIT - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- - http://myfitness.ning.com A community of people that care about their health and fitness Free fitness videos, recipes, blogs, photos etc. -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
