RE: [WSG] [OT] Posting [was:Best way to hide form legends?]
Maybe for you, but for many of us, a carefully edited reply makes perfect sense. Failing to ever truncate a conversation may be wasteful, but even then, by top-posting you allow people to easily check previous messages that have since been deleted. The message that you are quoting was neither unusual, nor offensive in any way. (In my opinion, which is all that matters.) Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens Brueckmann Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:31 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] [OT] Posting [was:Best way to hide form legends?] By that I meant someone who sees [...] -Original Message- I've got a search box [...] A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? -- Jens Brueckmann http://www.yalf.de *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] will this ever validate?(swfobject 2.0)
Hi, Im trying swf object 2.0. http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/mockup2.html Im using the static-standards compliant method that uses conditional comments. I thought it would validate better than this. Theres a lot of unclosed errors on the param tags. Should i just self close those i wonder? Theres also errors with ids being defined twice. Is anyone else usign swfobject 2.0 here, if so are you using dynamic or static method and why? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] will this ever validate?(swfobject 2.0)
All the javascript methods for embedding flash use a script within the page to replace a div with the flash code, which is another way validation fails. If you write an unobtrusive script that adds the script tag to the page once the dom loads, you can write a fallback for the flash for non-script people and everyone should be happy. A proper fallback would be an image, or paragraph outlining the content of the movie etc. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Jeffery wrote: Embedding flash has always been and issue and always will be in HTML 4.01. There are lots of methods but there are problems with all of them (as i'm aware). I think the best way of doing it is follow what the SWFObject documentation recommends. You could always dynamically include the Flash, but that would cause problems for users without JavaScript. Im not aware of the HTML 5 developments (i know, i know, i should be but im a busy guy) but maybe there is a fix in the future. Regards On 5/1/08, *kevin mcmonagle* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Im trying swf object 2.0. http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/mockup2.html Im using the static-standards compliant method that uses conditional comments. I thought it would validate better than this. Theres a lot of unclosed errors on the param tags. Should i just self close those i wonder? Theres also errors with ids being defined twice. Is anyone else usign swfobject 2.0 here, if so are you using dynamic or static method and why? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***begin:vcard fn:Joseph Taylor n:Taylor;Joseph org:Sites by Joe, LLC adr:;;408 Route 47 South;Cape May Court House;NJ;08210;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Designer / Developer tel;work:609-335-3076 tel;fax:886-301-8045 tel;home:609-886-9660 tel;cell:609-335-3076 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://sitesbyjoe.com version:2.1 end:vcard
[WSG] Image links
When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image links in the same ID or do you have to set up a separate class with anchor rules? Thanks, Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Image links
On 5/1/08, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for
text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image links in the
same ID or do you have to set up a separate class with anchor rules?
By underline do you mean the underline text-decoration or a bottom
border? If it's the former, it isn't really an issue. Browsers
won't—as far as I know—add an underline or border to image links even
if you've declared it to be there on hover. The trick is you want to
change the styles on the image inside the anchor instead of the anchor
itself. Like so:
a img {
border: 0;
}
Or what have you.
If you're adding a border-bottom to links and you don't want it to
show up on images you have a wholly different problem. In this case
the border is being applied to the link that just so happens to have
an image inside of it. It won't put an underline, because that
underline is a text decoration and there ain't no text in the link.
There's no CSS selector to target something that has a child.
The way I see it you have a few options:
1.) Apply a class to every anchor with an image.
2.) Make sure all of your images are inside another element with a
class or id and then target the links inside of it.
3.) Use JavaScript to crawl through the document looking for links
that meet an if loop.
4.) Scrap the whole idea of a bottom border on links and use the underline.
I tend to choose option 4.
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Re: [WSG] Image links
* **img a *{
text-decoration : none;
}
Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag?
I suggest the following:
a.someclassname{text-decoration:none;}
OR
a{text-decoration:none;}
Thanks!
Venkatesan M
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Mike at Green-Beast.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dean,
When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for
text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image
This should work for you:
img a {
text-decoration : none;
}
Cheers.
Mike Cherim
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[WSG] making big selections
Been having problems with deciding on the best user interface for a particular type of form input (for an intranet application). When we have a list of values from which a user can select one or more items, there are a couple of choices. - we can use checkboxes, which is nice and easy for (lets say) up to 15 options, starts to get a bit clunky up to 25 and just gets ugly from then on. - we can use a multiple select list, which operates reasonably well up to quite a large number of choices, but gets a bit of negative feedback from users who don't find it intuitive. The whole modifier key thing throws people and they can't tell what's been selected without scrolling right through the list (what a nightmare that would be on a screenreader!). AFAIK, the multi-select is the *right* way to go, but when we're talking about your larger lists (200+ items) I agree that it is next to impossible to use - scrolling increments become tiny and you can't tell what's been selected at a glance (as all selections may be outside the viewport of the form control). We recently trialled something like this http://justinsomnia.org/2005/01/roll-your-own-multiple-select-listbox/ (an array of checkboxes styled to look like a big multi select), but although I was pretty happy with the style and feel of it, the user testing canned it... they'd rather sort through a huge array of hundreds of checkboxes (!). At least they can see at a (sort of) glance, what has been selected. In the end, I had to admit a partial defeat. Standard HTML elements are just not set up for this scale of information. Sticking to my roots, however, I'm looking for some sort of 'progressive enhancement' javascript that will allow me to use the multiple select as the basis for a more user friendly representation. So, any thoughts? either on the problem, or suggested solutions / UI libraries / examples. -- Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.woowoowoo.com ~~~ * ~~~ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Image links
it should be:
a img {
}
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Mahendran Venkatesan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* **img a *{
text-decoration : none;
}
Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag?
I suggest the following:
a.someclassname{text-decoration:none;}
OR
a{text-decoration:none;}
Thanks!
Venkatesan M
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Mike at Green-Beast.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dean,
When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for
text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image
This should work for you:
img a {
text-decoration : none;
}
Cheers.
Mike Cherim
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Re: [WSG] Image links
Hi Venkatesan,
Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag?
How about this then:
a img, img a {
text-decoration : none;
}
This is a fuller version with some interaction as a usability enahancement.
img, a img, img a {
text-decoration : none;
border : 2px solid #ccc; /* try the background color if wanted */
font-size : 80%; /* allows more alt text without overflow issues */
}
img a:hover, img a:focus {
border : 2px solid #999;
}
img a:active{ /* focus in IE, onkeypress for all else (?) */
border : 2px solid #000;
}
Respectfully,
Mike Cherim
www.green-beast-com
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RE: [WSG] Image links
a img{
border:none;
}
Isn't the order decided based on how you have coded the inline elements?
Maybe someone else can clarify...?
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I can never remember which way round these are supposed to go! Can someone
explain (again!) the rules here?
Thanks
susie
On 2/5/08 3:11 PM, Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it should be:
a img {
}
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Mahendran Venkatesan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
img a {
text-decoration : none;
}
Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag?
I suggest the following:
a.someclassname{text-decoration:none;}
OR
a{text-decoration:none;}
Thanks!
Venkatesan M
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Mike at Green-Beast.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dean,
When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for
text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image
This should work for you:
img a {
text-decoration : none;
}
Cheers.
Mike Cherim
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Re: [WSG] Image links
it should be:
a img {
}
Ah, yeah, duh, sorry can't do img a. Drop that from my previous example
please. It's late, I'll Tweet my goof and go to bed :)
Mike
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