Re: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites
Thanks for the info, Elizabeth. Aussie members in this list must be very proud of this law :-) Let's just hope no gold-digger lawyer sees an opportunity there! Is the requirement for this law higher per WCAG guidelines (A, AA, or AAA)? For example, Section 508 is really low standard in my opinion. tee On Aug 15, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Elizabeth Spiegel wrote: Hi Tee In Australia, websites are covered by Disability Discrimination legislation, although there has only been one successful suit to date. Bruce Maguire was awarded damages of $20,000 against SOCOG in 2000: full details here: http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/decisions/comdec/2000/DD000120.htm Note that the target was not by any measure a 'small business'. HREOC provides advisory notes http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/standards/www_3/www_3.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites
Section 508 is a minimum standard required for Websites of US Government contractors, etc. and so has been adopted by many other Websites too. It is not law, as such. Disability Discrimination legislation in Europe, the US and Oceania are all very similar and require Website owners to take reasonable steps to ensure their sites are accessible by disabled users. The WCAG standards are the ones expected to be used in any law suits as a test of accessibility. The legislation doesn´t specify a level of accessibility, just that reasonable steps are taken, which is why there have not been too many prosecutions. The test of reasonableness is vague and what is reasonable for a large corporation to do may not be reasonable for a small business. On Sun, August 17, 2008 3:18 pm, tee wrote: Thanks for the info, Elizabeth. Aussie members in this list must be very proud of this law :-) Let's just hope no gold-digger lawyer sees an opportunity there! Is the requirement for this law higher per WCAG guidelines (A, AA, or AAA)? For example, Section 508 is really low standard in my opinion. tee On Aug 15, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Elizabeth Spiegel wrote: Hi Tee In Australia, websites are covered by Disability Discrimination legislation, although there has only been one successful suit to date. Bruce Maguire was awarded damages of $20,000 against SOCOG in 2000: full details here: http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/decisions/comdec/2000/DD000120.htm Note that the target was not by any measure a 'small business'. HREOC provides advisory notes http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/standards/www_3/www_3.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:18 AM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info, Elizabeth. Aussie members in this list must be very proud of this law :-) Let's just hope no gold-digger lawyer sees an opportunity there! Is the requirement for this law higher per WCAG guidelines (A, AA, or AAA)? For example, Section 508 is really low standard in my opinion. tee Tee, the Disability Discrimination Act (here in Oz) does not actually specify the level of compliance according to WCAG. HREOC and AGIMO (google these) make some interpretations of the Act that are again interpreted by individual government bodies - I think it is fair to say that accessibility standards in Australia aren't (standard). Cheers, Andrew -- --- Andrew Boyd http://onblogging.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Re: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites
Thats correct Andrew, I had to investigate this for a redesign of a federal government web site. Government departments and agencies in Australia are at the mercy of the law, but as Andrew stated the level of compliance is measured against a persons assessment of the level of discrimination they feel is being placed on them. The examples that I know of have been assessed to the level where the person making the complaint is deemed being discriminated against. If this person in not satisfied with the solution made by the organisation they can continue to push the case forward till the issue is resolved and during this period the organisation is fined along the way. However for commercial organisations, if they are not providing a service where they are the sole provider and access point, the lines get fuzzy on what is and is not disciminatory. William Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:18 AM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info, Elizabeth. Aussie members in this list must be very proud of this law :-) Let's just hope no gold-digger lawyer sees an opportunity there! Is the requirement for this law higher per WCAG guidelines (A, AA, or AAA)? For example, Section 508 is really low standard in my opinion. tee Tee, the Disability Discrimination Act (here in Oz) does not actually specify the level of compliance according to WCAG. HREOC and AGIMO (google these) make some interpretations of the Act that are again interpreted by individual government bodies - I think it is fair to say that accessibility standards in Australia aren't (standard). Cheers, Andrew -- --- Andrew Boyd http://onblogging.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
The AGIMO guidelines specify minimum A, preferably AA. http://webpublishing.agimo.gov.au/Accessibility From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Boyd Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 8:58 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:18 AM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info, Elizabeth. Aussie members in this list must be very proud of this law :-) Let's just hope no gold-digger lawyer sees an opportunity there! Is the requirement for this law higher per WCAG guidelines (A, AA, or AAA)? For example, Section 508 is really low standard in my opinion. tee Tee, the Disability Discrimination Act (here in Oz) does not actually specify the level of compliance according to WCAG. HREOC and AGIMO (google these) make some interpretations of the Act that are again interpreted by individual government bodies - I think it is fair to say that accessibility standards in Australia aren't (standard). Cheers, Andrew -- --- Andrew Boyd http://onblogging.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** WARNING: The information contained in this email may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use or copying of any part of this information is unauthorised. If you have received this email in error, we apologise for any inconvenience and request that you notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this email, together with any attachments. *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
You'd think AGIMO would validate their pages wouldn't you? Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Vickery Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 10:41 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] The AGIMO guidelines specify minimum A, preferably AA. http://webpublishing.agimo.gov.au/Accessibility From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Boyd Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 8:58 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Lawsuits for inaccessible websites On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:18 AM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info, Elizabeth. Aussie members in this list must be very proud of this law :-) Let's just hope no gold-digger lawyer sees an opportunity there! Is the requirement for this law higher per WCAG guidelines (A, AA, or AAA)? For example, Section 508 is really low standard in my opinion. tee Tee, the Disability Discrimination Act (here in Oz) does not actually specify the level of compliance according to WCAG. HREOC and AGIMO (google these) make some interpretations of the Act that are again interpreted by individual government bodies - I think it is fair to say that accessibility standards in Australia aren't (standard). Cheers, Andrew -- --- Andrew Boyd http://onblogging.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** WARNING: The information contained in this email may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use or copying of any part of this information is unauthorised. If you have received this email in error, we apologise for any inconvenience and request that you notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this email, together with any attachments. *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
