Re: [WSG] Best format for accessible equations

2008-09-22 Thread Steve Baty
Breton,

Except for the most basic of equation, I don't believe that solution is
practical. In the absence of the full symbolism contained in the equation,
the meaning of the equation becomes lost very, very quickly.

For example, the equations contained in this graphic -
http://www.xycoon.com/images/nor010.gif - are not terribly complicated, but
as you start to read it out into words, it becomes extremely verbose and
confused. Function of capital x equals exponential raised to the power of
minus one half times capital x minus mu divided by sigma raised to the power
of 2 all divided by sigma times the square root of two times pi.

You've also now lost some of the meaning of the equation - mu is the
expected value of a normal probability distribution; capital X is the
expected value of a sample from the population with normal probably
distribution; and sigma is the population standard deviation. Now, granted,
someone familiar with mathematics would know this, but in the symbolic
representation of the equation the meaning is clear and embedded.

Looking at the example you provided, is this to mean (x/2)^y or x/(2^y)?

An enormous degree of care would be required to accurately, and
unambiguously translate the symbolic representation of the equation into
English.

Best regards
Steve Baty

2008/9/22 Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Might I suggest quite simply, that in the alt attribute, you write in
 english, basically what you would say if you were to read the
 mathematical expression out loud? This has the best chance of being
 converted into something comprehensible by a screen reader. I am
 assuming of course that screen readers typically have no built in
 facility for dealing with mathematical expressions.  For example,
 something like X over 2, raised to the power of Y I'm pretty sure
 there's a fairly traditional language used for reading math
 expressions, though I don't know of any references.




 On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Andrew Ivin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  We are implementing mathematical equations on one of our websites.
 
  Unfortunately, we are not able to implement a MathML or LaTex type
  solution at this stage (developer time and budget constraints)
  So, we are putting these equations up as graphics.
 
  I'm wondering the best way of giving these graphics alt attributes -
  both for web browsers and screen readers.
 
 
  If there are any suggestions, they would be much appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
 
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  Andrew
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Re: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-22 Thread Wynne Hunkler
Agree with Keryx very much regarding Sitepoint books. Sitepoint is one  
of my commonly used references. If you are looking to gain an  
excellent understanding of javascript and how it interprets the DOM, I  
would recommend Simply Javascript at http://www.sitepoint.com/books/javascript1/?SID=fd6872659b8d4823a0eb3ce170479b37 
.


It starts from the very beginning and rapidly takes you through the  
process. I believe gaining the basic javascript understanding would  
provide excellent benefits before jumping right into a framework.  
Similar to learning how to write solid HTML/CSS before attempting to  
use DW or some other visual tool.


Wynne Hunkler

Usability Evangelist
Wynnefields Creative

( (817) 605-1012 Office | ( (817) 915-9427 Cell | ( (817) 605-1012 Fax



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