Re: [WSG] Classes---Adding multiple classes to an element, is there a downfall???
Is there a downfall to applying multiple classes to an element, like the one
above? How does it affect UAs?
Just thought I'd offer an alternate viewpoint to the argh! no! responses
so far.
Like most web dev questions there's a contextual aspect to the question.
There's a time and a place to use multiple classes.
Multiple classes are hugely useful if you have a really large site (or
collection of sites) with design variations over a standard structure (i.e.
standardised markup). You can use multiple classes to build up layers of
style and save a lot of repetition.
eg.
.default { /* set up widths, sizing, etc */}
.variant1 { color: #000; background: #fff; }
.variant2 { color: #fff; background: #000; }
(obviously in a real build you'd do this with meaningful classnames)
Then you can have:
div class=default variant1
and
div class=default variant2
...and you've saved the hack work of setting up the basics twice. When you
have hundreds of different pages it's pretty powerful. The downside of the
approach is that you really do have to have standardised markup - not just
similar or usually the same but things actually have to follow a
standard.
For a smaller site with the current browser market it's probably overkill,
and for the scenario in the original question I think contextual selectors
are the way to go.
But we should keep in mind that the end of IE6 is in sight, at which point
combined selectors will work as they're supposed to. That will make multiple
classes more broadly useful - including being useful on small sites - as
there's the potential to do more style work with less elements.
So basically... don't be hating multiple classes, they have their place ;)
cheers,
Ben
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[WSG] Safari Beta 4
Hi, Anyone know about how the new Safari Beta 4 is handling the current standards of the Web? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4
according to Mr. Andrew Lyle: Safari 4 is the first web browser to pass the web standards Acid 3 test which demonstrates how well a browser adheres to CSS, javascript, XML and SVG. So, i'd say it's handling them pretty well :) http://acid3.acidtests.org/ On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Anyone know about how the new Safari Beta 4 is handling the current standards of the Web? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] DHTML Menus
From: Chris Dimmock chris.dimm...@gmail.com Q. What is the percentage of population that does not have javascript enabled? A. 100% of search engine spiders. So if you don't want your site fully spidered. ... then don't use an ancient DHTML menu that carries your links in a script file. Instead, use a modern menu that employs list-based markup and a script that visually and interactively enhances that markup, progressively and unobtrusively. Today's options in that area are many. -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Safari Beta 4
From: Todd Budnikas to...@missiondata.com according to Mr. Andrew Lyle: Safari 4 is the first web browser to pass the web standards Acid 3 test which demonstrates how well a browser adheres to CSS, javascript, XML and SVG. So, i'd say it's handling them pretty well :) http://acid3.acidtests.org/ Smoke and mirrors. document.ready (a staple of modern DOM Scripting) does not wait for external CSS or CSS written in external scripts and is the only modern browser to do this. Log on to the Safari bug list and you'll see a bunch of double-talkers. Another point is it's not Safari (and Apple by implication), it's an open source rendering engine. Apple has contributed several nice shades of gray, though :-) -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop The Ultimate DW Menu System *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] E-commerce
http://shopify.com -- Cal Wilson c...@oxygenkiosk.com Phone: 0404 449 464 Web: http://oxygenkiosk.com On 26/02/2009, at 4:27 PM, Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Does anyone have input on what is a good Web standards e-commerce solution? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] E-commerce
Sorry, my bad. Didn't realize you were after a hosted system, I thought you were asking about design/technologies. Please disregard my previous post. Robert Turner wrote: Hi Kevin, (My apologies if this comes across as blunt).. Your question is like asking what a good overall software solution is, it all depends on requirements and target environment. If you provide some more specific information I'm sure someone can help you out. =] Rob Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Does anyone have input on what is a good Web standards e-commerce solution? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Rob Turner Company Leader www. f l e x a d a t a .com +1 415 448 7652 +61 7 3040 1337 -- Rob Turner Company Leader www. f l e x a d a t a .com +1 415 448 7652 +61 7 3040 1337 ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org***begin:vcard fn:Rob Turner n:Turner;Rob org:Flexa Pty Ltd email;internet:r...@flexadata.com title:Company Leader tel;work:+61 7 3040 1337 tel;cell:+61 4 0115 9060 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://flexadata.com version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [WSG] E-commerce
I will be releasing my own web standards cms, crm and ecommerce solution shortly - it is powering www.tweakmag.com (a magento community site - not finished yet). As I own (part) a Platinum Magento Partner (www.ontapcreative.com) I am happy to add a vote for magento, however for simpler solutions - www.tradingeye.com Cheers Adam Cal Wilson wrote: http://shopify.com -- Cal Wilson c...@oxygenkiosk.com Phone: 0404 449 464 Web: http://oxygenkiosk.com On 26/02/2009, at 4:27 PM, Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Does anyone have input on what is a good Web standards e-commerce solution? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] E-commerce
What about magentoecommerce.com or things like goodbarry.nl personally i use wordpress with a plugin for small shops like http://slipper-shop.nl On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:27 AM, Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Does anyone have input on what is a good Web standards e-commerce solution? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] E-commerce
personally im totally not in font of tradingeye, but i think its more like a personal/design issue it just doesnt look nice to me On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Adam Martin wrote: I will be releasing my own web standards cms, crm and ecommerce solution shortly - it is powering www.tweakmag.com (a magento community site - not finished yet). As I own (part) a Platinum Magento Partner (www.ontapcreative.com) I am happy to add a vote for magento, however for simpler solutions - www.tradingeye.com Cheers Adam Cal Wilson wrote: http://shopify.com -- Cal Wilson c...@oxygenkiosk.com Phone: 0404 449 464 Web: http://oxygenkiosk.com On 26/02/2009, at 4:27 PM, Kevin Erickson wrote: Hi, Does anyone have input on what is a good Web standards e-commerce solution? Thanks, Kevin No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 2/24/2009 6:43 AM *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
