Re: [WSG] valid meta tags
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: W3C suggests using meta http-equiv='content-language' in a subtly different way from the lang and xml:lang attributes: There are important differences between meta http-equiv='content-language' and lang and xml:lang attributes the lang and xml:lang attributes can only contain a single language meta http-equiv='content-language' can contain a list of languages -- Andrew Cunningham Senior Manager, Research and Development Vicnet State Library of Victoria 328 Swanston Street Melbourne VIC 3000 Ph: +61-3-8664-7430 Fax: +61-3-9639-2175 Email: andr...@vicnet.net.au Alt email: lang.supp...@gmail.com http://home.vicnet.net.au/~andrewc/ http://www.openroad.net.au http://www.vicnet.net.au http://www.slv.vic.gov.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***begin:vcard fn:Andrew Cunningham n:Cunningham;Andrew org:State Library of Victoria;Vicnet adr:;;328 Swanston Street;Melbourne;VIC;3000;Australia email;internet:andr...@vicnet.net.au title:Senior Manager, Research and Development tel;work:+61-3-8664-7430 tel;fax:+61-3-9639-2175 tel;cell:0421-450-816 note;quoted-printable:Projects:=0D=0A= http://www.openroad.net.au/=0D=0A= http://www.mylanguage.gov.au/ x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.vicnet.net.au/ version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [WSG] valid meta tags
quote who=Andrew Cunningham Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: There are important differences between meta http-equiv='content-language' and lang and xml:lang attributes the lang and xml:lang attributes can only contain a single language But describe the element they apply to and its children unless another lang is specified. p lang=en-usHer choice of color, left a certain span lang=frje ne sais quoi/span/p meta http-equiv='content-language' can contain a list of languages Which are the natural languages of the intended audience, which are not always the same as the languages used in the document. If we go back to the earlier example, even though it is written in American English, it is intended for all English speakers, and despite having a splash of French in the text, it isn't the version intended for French speakers. Content-Language: en p lang=en-usHer choice of color, left a certain span lang=frje ne sais quoi/span/p *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.
Then perhaps you would care to explain why this document: http://zenpsycho.com/quirkstest2.htm activates standards mode, when the table you've linked to suggests that it should be in quirks mode? Table clearly shows, that this page should activate standards mode. It is the last line, „unrecognized doctype“. I would conclude that the page you've linked to does not reflect reality. What would you conclude? I conclude, that HTML (No Version Present) means doctype like this: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML//EN and !DOCTYPE html falls under unrecognized !DOCTYPE (and is actually the only reason why html5 has doctype at all: because unrecognized doctype triggers standards compatible mode in IE), hence the table is accurate. Test with the versionless doctype I gave above and see. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] valid meta tags
On 6/4/09, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: quote who=Andrew Cunningham Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: There are important differences between meta http-equiv='content-language' and lang and xml:lang attributes the lang and xml:lang attributes can only contain a single language But describe the element they apply to and its children unless another lang is specified. p lang=en-usHer choice of color, left a certain span lang=frje ne sais quoi/span/p meta http-equiv='content-language' can contain a list of languages Which are the natural languages of the intended audience, which are not always the same as the languages used in the document. If we go back to the earlier example, even though it is written in American English, it is intended for all English speakers, and despite having a splash of French in the text, it isn't the version intended for French speakers. Content-Language: en p lang=en-usHer choice of color, left a certain span lang=frje ne sais quoi/span/p *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** Hello and tanks for your information i recived it and keep your address. thanks -- Keshawarz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Image mapping standards question
On 6/3/09, Tim Savage tim.sav...@poweredbypenguins.org wrote: I've been playing around with this idea recently. Image maps are quite flexible, not only can you title attributes etc but since they are part of the DOM you can attach javascript events to them. For a recent client which an online fashion store they had images of models wearing their garments and I used image maps to have tool tips appear with additional information about the garment and link to the product page. You can use the same javascript: void() trick (or capture events) to prevent anything happening when a user clicks on the link as necessary. I tried several approaches to getting this system to work right. My first try was using absolutely position DIV's this worked perfectly except in IE, second go was output a json structure containing all the information about the products etc and generate my image map client side, again worked perfectly except in IE. In the end the solution was to generate everything server side and tie it all together with javascript which also works and works in IE. The advantages of using image maps basically come down to being able to generate complex shapes, and them already being supported in browsers so why reinvent the wheel. -- *Tim Savage* Technology Lead [image: Joocey Labs Pty Ltd] 105 / 757 Bourke Street Docklands VIC 3008 p: +61 3 9016 9132 m: +61 415 845 226 e: tim.sav...@jooceylabs.com w: http://jooceylabs.com Melbourne | Brisbane | Sydney On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:01, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com wrote: Brett Patterson wrote: I meant that rather than using image mapping for hyperlinks, you could use it to (sort of) point out a particular part of an image, as if you wanted to show someone who can see which person in a picture is you if they hover their mouse over that image map. And you can use it for someone who is blind, by showing them sections in a picture, as if there are rapids in one part of a picture and your canoe in another. I mean image maps being used to show particular sections in a picture, give it a title and alt attribute, and allow people to see what is what in the picture by holding their mouse over parts in a picture. Some picture sites, like photobucket and others allow users to tag certain parts of a picture to allow users to see who is who in a picture. I was wondering if it would be okay to do the same thing with using image maps and not using them as links. Do you mean something like this? http://css-tricks.com/image-map-with-prototype-tooltips/ Not sure about how this would benefit someone who can't see, though? Provided you have given ALT attributes to the AREA shapes, screen readers should be happy. FWIW image maps *are* links, and can be followed by search engines and text browsers, screen readers, etc.. Without scripting, though, they are hard to discover in graphical browsers-- and not everyone has scripting enabled. Design is about compromise, I believe. No one solution fits all situations. So the answer is a qualified yes - you can use an image map for this. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** Hello and thanks for your kindly information , I am a beginer an i must learn more and more but there are other problems and this is the languages , my Englis is not very well and sometimes it made a problems and missunderstanding please if i made some misstake excuse me i try to do it better in feuture. Till know i visited the sites for learning but sometims i need to aske a question and to be in contaction I don't like to miss you and If i can not send an Email the only reson is my English writting becouse it is not so good please excuse me. Your Sibcearely Mohsen Keshawarz -- Keshawarz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
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Re: [WSG] AUTO: Ian IR SHORTLAND is out of the office. (returning 09/06/2009)
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Re: [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest
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