Re: [WSG] valid meta tags

2009-06-04 Thread Andrew Cunningham



Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:



W3C suggests using meta http-equiv='content-language' in a subtly 
different way from the lang and xml:lang attributes:




There are important differences between meta 
http-equiv='content-language' and lang and xml:lang attributes


the lang and xml:lang attributes can only contain a single language

meta http-equiv='content-language' can contain a list of languages

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Re: [WSG] valid meta tags

2009-06-04 Thread David Dorward
quote who=Andrew Cunningham
 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:

 There are important differences between meta
 http-equiv='content-language' and lang and xml:lang attributes

 the lang and xml:lang attributes can only contain a single language

But describe the element they apply to and its children unless another
lang is specified.

p lang=en-usHer choice of color, left a certain span lang=frje ne
sais quoi/span/p

 meta http-equiv='content-language' can contain a list of languages

Which are the natural languages of the intended audience, which are not
always the same as the languages used in the document.

If we go back to the earlier example, even though it is written in
American English, it is intended for all English speakers, and despite
having a splash of French in the text, it isn't the version intended for
French speakers.

Content-Language: en

p lang=en-usHer choice of color, left a certain span lang=frje ne
sais quoi/span/p




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Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-04 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
 Then perhaps you would care to explain why this document:

 http://zenpsycho.com/quirkstest2.htm

 activates standards mode, when the table you've linked to suggests
 that it should be in quirks mode?

Table clearly shows, that this page should activate standards mode.
It is the last line, „unrecognized doctype“.

 I would conclude that the page you've linked to does not reflect
 reality. What would you conclude?

I conclude, that HTML (No Version Present) means doctype like
this:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML//EN

and !DOCTYPE html  falls under unrecognized !DOCTYPE
(and is actually the only reason why html5 has doctype at all:
because unrecognized doctype triggers standards compatible mode in IE),
hence the table is accurate. Test with the versionless doctype
I gave above and see.

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Re: [WSG] valid meta tags

2009-06-04 Thread Mohsen Keshawarz
On 6/4/09, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:

 quote who=Andrew Cunningham
  Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:

  There are important differences between meta
  http-equiv='content-language' and lang and xml:lang attributes
 
  the lang and xml:lang attributes can only contain a single language

 But describe the element they apply to and its children unless another
 lang is specified.

 p lang=en-usHer choice of color, left a certain span lang=frje ne
 sais quoi/span/p

  meta http-equiv='content-language' can contain a list of languages

 Which are the natural languages of the intended audience, which are not
 always the same as the languages used in the document.

 If we go back to the earlier example, even though it is written in
 American English, it is intended for all English speakers, and despite
 having a splash of French in the text, it isn't the version intended for
 French speakers.

 Content-Language: en

 p lang=en-usHer choice of color, left a certain span lang=frje ne
 sais quoi/span/p




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Re: [WSG] Image mapping standards question

2009-06-04 Thread Mohsen Keshawarz
On 6/3/09, Tim Savage tim.sav...@poweredbypenguins.org wrote:

 I've been playing around with this idea recently. Image maps are quite
 flexible, not only can you title attributes etc but since they are part of
 the DOM you can attach javascript events to them. For a recent client which
 an online fashion store they had images of models wearing their garments and
 I used image maps to have tool tips appear with additional information
 about the garment and link to the product page. You can use the same
 javascript: void() trick (or capture events) to prevent anything happening
 when a user clicks on the link as necessary.

 I tried several approaches to getting this system to work right. My first
 try was using absolutely position DIV's this worked perfectly except in IE,
 second go was output a json structure containing all the information about
 the products etc and generate my image map client side, again worked
 perfectly except in IE. In the end the solution was to generate everything
 server side and tie it all together with javascript which also works and
 works in IE.


 The advantages of using image maps basically come down to being able to
 generate complex shapes, and them already being supported in browsers so why
 reinvent the wheel.





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 On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:01, David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brett Patterson wrote:

 I meant that rather than using image mapping for hyperlinks, you
 could use it to (sort of) point out a particular part of an image, as
 if you wanted to show someone who can see which person in a picture
 is you if they hover their mouse over that image map. And you can use
 it for someone who is blind, by showing them sections in a picture,
 as if there are rapids in one part of a picture and your canoe in
 another.

 I mean image maps being used to show particular sections in a
 picture, give it a title and alt attribute, and allow people to see
 what is what in the picture by holding their mouse over parts in a
 picture.

 Some picture sites, like photobucket and others allow users to tag
 certain parts of a picture to allow users to see who is who in a
 picture. I was wondering if it would be okay to do the same thing
 with using image maps and not using them as links.


 Do you mean something like this?

 http://css-tricks.com/image-map-with-prototype-tooltips/

 Not sure about how this would benefit someone who can't see, though?
 Provided you have given ALT attributes to the AREA shapes, screen readers
 should be happy.

 FWIW image maps *are* links, and can be followed by search engines and
 text browsers, screen readers, etc.. Without scripting, though, they are
 hard to discover in graphical browsers-- and not everyone has scripting
 enabled.

 Design is about compromise, I believe. No one solution fits all
 situations. So the answer is a qualified yes - you can use an image map
 for this.

 Cordially,
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Re: [WSG] AUTO: Ian IR SHORTLAND is out of the office. (returning 09/06/2009)

2009-06-04 Thread Mohsen Keshawarz
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Re: [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2009-06-04 Thread Mohsen Keshawarz
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