[WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear

2009-09-26 Thread designer
Can anyone tell me what is wrong (apart from not being semantic) about using:

q{
  clear : both;
  display : none;
}

In conjunction with:

qfor clearing!/q

in the body of the mark-up.  (it makes it a bit more helpful for screen 
readers, I presume?)

Anything? Any better ideas around?  I did google this, but only found 
variations on using br/, which seems messy, somehow.

All suggestions gratefully considered.

Thanks,

Bob



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RE: [WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear

2009-09-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 Can anyone tell me what is wrong (apart from not being semantic) about
using:

 Have you tried using the easy clearing fix instead? 
 http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html ...it avoids the
need for markup just for 
 clearing. If you stick with markup I'd suggest just using br / rather
than including extraneous
  text.

I don't think the clearfix method is a good way to contain floats as it
creates different layouts across browsers.
See:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/clearing-floats_and_block-formatting_context.
asp


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Regards,
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com






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Re: [WSG] [Spam] :The wisdom? of using q to clear

2009-09-26 Thread Ben Buchanan
Can anyone tell me what is wrong (apart from not being semantic) about
 using:



Have you tried using the easy clearing fix instead?
http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html ...it avoids the need
for markup just for clearing. If you stick with markup I'd suggest just
using br / rather than including extraneous text.

cheers,

Ben


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[WSG] Strange Table Border Rendering in everything BUT FF and IE

2009-09-26 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Hello All -

This is the first time I've come across this issue.

First, go here in either FireFox or IE7 or greater:
http://www.sangat.ph/index.php?cmd=08.01.00

Both of these browsers render two guestbook entries (displayed in a table)
with a thin green line set on the top border of each of the two tables. This
is the way it should look.

Now, if you go to the same page with Opera, Safari (windows), or Chrome, the
table border only renders to the width of td class=flag within each of
these two tables. Hummm.

My css is pretty straight forward:

table.guestBook
{
border-top: 1px solid #9CA027;
border-bottom: none;
border-right: none;
border-left: none;
margin-bottom: 20px;
}

table.guestBook td.flag
{
padding: 0;
width: 64px;
}

table.guestBook th, table.guestBook td
{
font-size: 1.2em;
text-align: left;
border: none;
padding: 0px 0px 5px 15px;
}

table.guestBook th.name
{
font-size: 1.4em;
color: #2695c0;
}

table.guestBook img.stars
{
position: relative;
left: 3px;
top: 3px;
}

table.guestBook td.comment
{
padding-top: 10px;  
}

Has anyone else come across this non-Firefox, non i.e. issue? Any
suggestions on how to fix it?

Great appreciation for all guidance!

Cole



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Re: [WSG] Strange Table Border Rendering in everything BUT FF and IE

2009-09-26 Thread Chris Knowles

Cole Kuryakin wrote:

Hello All -

This is the first time I've come across this issue.

First, go here in either FireFox or IE7 or greater:
http://www.sangat.ph/index.php?cmd=08.01.00

Both of these browsers render two guestbook entries (displayed in a table)
with a thin green line set on the top border of each of the two tables. This
is the way it should look.

Now, if you go to the same page with Opera, Safari (windows), or Chrome, the
table border only renders to the width of td class=flag within each of
these two tables. Hummm.



Hi Cole

in the first row the td needs a colspan of 2 I think

table cellspacing=0 class=guestBook
trtdnbsp;/td/tr

should be...

table cellspacing=0 class=guestBook
trtd colspan='2'nbsp;/td/tr


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Chris Knowles


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RE: [WSG] Strange Table Border Rendering in everything BUT FF and IE

2009-09-26 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Chris -

That did it my friend - thanks for being my seeing eye dog! Much
appreciated.

Cole

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Subject: Re: [WSG] Strange Table Border Rendering in everything BUT FF and
IE

Cole Kuryakin wrote:
 Hello All -
 
 This is the first time I've come across this issue.
 
 First, go here in either FireFox or IE7 or greater:
 http://www.sangat.ph/index.php?cmd=08.01.00
 
 Both of these browsers render two guestbook entries (displayed in a table)
 with a thin green line set on the top border of each of the two tables.
This
 is the way it should look.
 
 Now, if you go to the same page with Opera, Safari (windows), or Chrome,
the
 table border only renders to the width of td class=flag within each of
 these two tables. Hummm.
 

Hi Cole

in the first row the td needs a colspan of 2 I think

table cellspacing=0 class=guestBook
trtdnbsp;/td/tr

should be...

table cellspacing=0 class=guestBook
trtd colspan='2'nbsp;/td/tr


-- 
Chris Knowles


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