Re: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest
Mevlana, Thank you. This seems to be what I'm looking for. Now I'll just need to experiment with trying to write a javascript (not my forte) that will publish a link to the site on the page if it was not opened as a pop-up and that should fix the problem. Best, Bob Bob, The following site may give you an idea: http://javascript.about.com/library/blpoptest.htm Basically, each popup window has an 'opener'. If the 'opener' exists, then user has come to the page via a popup, else the user has come via another method. Regards Mevlana On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:19 AM, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * From: Bob Schwartz b...@fotografics.it Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 11:14:59 +0200 Subject: pop up windows and Google I have several sites where i use pop-up windows to present certain types of information. When someone does a Google search sometimes Google lists results from these pop-up pages. When the searcher clicks on the Google result he gets the pop-up window as a stand-alone page in his browser with no links to anywhere on the actual site. Savvy people would just delete the part after the domain in the url bar, hit enter and be at the site, but I'm discovering not all are savvy. So, is anyone aware of any clever javascript that would detect if the page had not been opened as a pop-up and write a link to the actual site (and not write the link if opened as a pop-up)? Or, any other suggestion (besides don't use pop-ups)? Thank you, Bob Schwartz ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] pop up windows and Google
Tee, Thank you. Your evaluation advice has been filed for future use. In this particular case the certain types of information do not belong to any of their host pages, but I do see the value of your advice if I ever have a case where they do. Best, Bob A simple back link should work, if the popup can be accessed in every page, maybe you need to link to home, if not, link to the page where the popup link shows. IMHO, you may want to re-evaluate the technicality of the popup. If the certain types of information belong to a section of a page, you can still use popup, but make sure that when JS turns off, the certain types of information is treated as part of the page, not a link that pulls a page of content via Ajax fetch (and I assume that is what you used); you can achieve this by using combination of simple show/hide and absolute positioning for the popup div, this way, there will be no issue with google search result. tee On May 12, 2011, at 2:14 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote: I have several sites where i use pop-up windows to present certain types of information. When someone does a Google search sometimes Google lists results from these pop-up pages. When the searcher clicks on the Google result he gets the pop-up window as a stand-alone page in his browser with no links to anywhere on the actual site. Savvy people would just delete the part after the domain in the url bar, hit enter and be at the site, but I'm discovering not all are savvy. So, is anyone aware of any clever javascript that would detect if the page had not been opened as a pop-up and write a link to the actual site (and not write the link if opened as a pop-up)? Or, any other suggestion (besides don't use pop-ups)? Thank you, Bob Schwartz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] pop up windows and Google
Possibly you could use: META NAME=ROBOTS CONTENT=NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW so they're not indexed in the first place. On Thu, May 12, 2011 10:14 am, Bob Schwartz wrote: I have several sites where i use pop-up windows to present certain types of information. When someone does a Google search sometimes Google lists results from these pop-up pages. When the searcher clicks on the Google result he gets the pop-up window as a stand-alone page in his browser with no links to anywhere on the actual site. Savvy people would just delete the part after the domain in the url bar, hit enter and be at the site, but I'm discovering not all are savvy. So, is anyone aware of any clever javascript that would detect if the page had not been opened as a pop-up and write a link to the actual site (and not write the link if opened as a pop-up)? Or, any other suggestion (besides don't use pop-ups)? Thank you, Bob Schwartz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] embedding flash in html5 - alternative content
Thanks Henrik, but the trouble here is that classid is deprecated in html5 and it won't validate. . . Bob - Original Message - From: Henrik Madsen To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] embedding flash in html5 - alternative content http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/ Henrik Madsen +61 08 9387 1250 hen...@igenerator.com.au www.igenerator.com.au On 11/05/2011, at 5:04 PM, designer wrote: I wondered if any of you who use Flash would indicate how you approach the provision of alternative content when embedding the swf file in html5. The basic use of embed: embed src=mainmenu/mainopening.swf type=application/x-shockwave-flash width=497 height=329/ is simplicity itself, but how do you provide alternative content for folk without flash? That is, what method do you recommend? I always used to do this kind of thing: object data=mainopening.swf width=497 height=281 type=application/x-shockwave-flash param name=movie value=mainopening.swf / param name=quality value=high / param name=bgcolor value=#fff / img src=../sitegraphics/sheltieopening.jpg alt=Sheltie opening graphic width=485 height=268 / /objectAny help gratefully recvd. Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] embedding flash in html5 - alternative content
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 3:34 AM, designer desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk wrote: Thanks Henrik, but the trouble here is that classid is deprecated in html5 and it won't validate. . . SWFObject WIKI page: SWFObject 2 and HTML5 http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/wiki/html5 If you find any issues that could cause SWFObject 2 not to be HTML5 compliant, please submit an issue report on the issues page. I am not sure how classid affects your validation when using SWFObject, but you might consider filing an issue so they can fix it. :) Cheers, Micky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
