RE: [WSG] AAA Accessibility and validation
The requirement for validation in WCAG 1.0 is contained in checkpoint 3.2, http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/wai-pageauth.html#tech-identify-grammar. Incidentally, checkpoint 3.2 is a requirement for Double-A conformance in WCAG 1.0. Elliot Chabot Web Solutions Branch House Information Resources U.S. House of Representatives http://www.house.gov -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of David Dorward Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:46 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] AAA Accessibility and validation On 13 Jan 2010, at 04:02, c...@fagandesign.com.au wrote: Now, this Accessibility Appendix lists CSS validation (point 3) as a required attribute for compliance. No, it doesn't. The document says, under conformance: * Conformance Level Triple-A: all Priority 1, 2, and 3 checkpoints are satisfied; Appendix A doesn't list any checkpoints. I guess my question is: Do IE-related CSS hacks cause a document to fail AAA (or A/AA for that matter) Accessibility compliance? Maybe and no. There are IE-related CSS hacks that are valid, and others that are not. The valid ones don't cause it to fail any checkpoint, as far as I know. Guideline 3 says Use markup and style sheets and do so properly and you could make a case that invalid CSS is not using style sheets properly. Checkpoint 3.2 says Create documents that validate to published formal grammars., but it can be argued that a style sheet is not a document. Meanwhile, WCAG 2.0 makes no requirement that CSS be valid (and when refers to 'markup' rather than 'documents'). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Deprecated start for lists confirmation
The start attribute for lists was deprecated by ยง 10.2 of the HTML 4.01 specification - http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/lists.html#adef-start. Elliot From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Erickson, Kevin (DOE) Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:17 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Deprecated start for lists confirmation Hello, Is the start attribute truly deprecated for a list? Is there a better way to do this? i.e. - ol class=list_style_numeric liinfo/li liinfo/li /ol anything... ol class=list_style_numeric start=3 liinfo /ol Thank you, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Looking for Images
You also may want to look at the Veterans History Project of the Library of Congress at http://www.loc.gov/vets/. Elliot -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of J.S. Ferguson Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:24 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Looking for Images If you're still looking, you might check with the owner of http:// www.hnsa.org/index.htm Steve Ferguson - http://www.illumit.com Developer of WebLight the practical web site content testing tool On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. doing a world war veterans club website. actually updating it. so was wondering, looking for images, of icons, logos, ships, planes, sub marines, flags, pictures of men , woman. and could spend years trolling via google images. so i would ask. where i could find royalty free images. that is accessible with a screen reader. cheers Marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] new site review
A good validator for color contrast is the Contrast Analyser at http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/contrast-analyser.html - which validates against the luminosity standards set out in Guidelines 1.4.3 and 1.4.6 of the W3C's WCAG 2.0 standard. Elliot -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:34 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] new site review On Tue, 29 Sep 2009, Raul Ferrer wrote: http://www.raulferrer.com The contrast between most of the text and its background is so low as to be unreadable. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com === Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] The head of the document
At the web shop for the U.S. House of Representatives, we recommend that our offices use Dublin Core and a number of other meta tags. The specific tags that we recommend are set out at http://cao.house.gov/web-standards/best-practices.pdf#page=186. Elliot From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:15 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] The head of the document Hi all, I'm just curious to know what other people do these days with the header of their document? What is best practice for: - Good search engine rankings - Best charset for English text (utf-8, right?) - Do we need robots - all anymore? - Any Accessibility issues? (Can't think of any) - Does anyone bother with descriptions, keywords anymore? - Dublin Core metadata, is that a forgotten fad?! I'll show you an example of how I setup a standard page, please anyone offer what they think is best practice, or perhaps send any useful links: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xmlns:v=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml xml:lang=en lang=en head meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8/ meta http-equiv=Content-Language content=en-us/ titleTITLE/title meta name=ROBOTS content=ALL/ meta http-equiv=imagetoolbar content=no/ meta name=MSSmartTagsPreventParsing content=true/ link rel=stylesheet href=STYLESHEET type=text/css media=all/ /head Cheers *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] JavaScript Language Clarifying within HTML
Section 18.2.1 of the W3C HTML 4.01 Specification http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/scripts.html also provides that the type attribute should be used to perform the function previously carried out by the script element's language attribute. Elliot Elliot Chabot, esq. Chief for Web Design and Standards Compliance CAO Web Solutions Branch U.S. House of Representatives H2-646 Ford House Office Building Washington, DC 20515-6165 (202) 226-6456 How am I doing http://housenet.house.gov/keywords/survey/web ? For general Web site questions, you may also call the Web Assistance Hotline at (202) 226-2140 or e-mail to webassista...@mail.house.gov and your concern will be directed to the appropriate staff person. From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Ireson Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:09 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] JavaScript Language Clarifying within HTML Brett, The language attribute of the script element was deprecated some time ago. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/scripts.html#h-18.2.1 http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/scripts.html http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.8 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ However, other might know a bit more about this. Kevin Ireson Work in progress includes: http://www.york-united-kingdom.co.uk http://www.hotels-london-hotels.com http://www.hotels-edinburgh-scotland-hotels.com From: Brett Patterson mailto:inspiron.patters...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] JavaScript Language Clarifying within HTML I am not sure about the most recent standards regarding the language attribute of the SCRIPT tag within an HTML page, so I would like to know if it is still recommended to use the language attribute within the SCRIPT tag? And what version, if it is recommended to use that attribute, would one specify to have the most in both backwards and forwards compatibility? -- Brett P. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***