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From: Rob Crowther robe...@boogdesign.com
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:11:07 +
Subject: Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites
On 20/12/2011 23:44, Chris Price wrote:
One advantage I can see in
opening a new window (on a larger screen at least) is you can dismiss
the page by closing that window rather than feeling you are being taken
somewhere you don't want to go. Is this context sensitive?
Yes it is context sensitive, and the context which is important is the
user's. Since the designer can't know in what context (or for what
reason) the user is clicking on any given link it is the user who should
be deciding whether to open the link in a new window or not.
Rob
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From: MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:38:48 +
Subject: Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites
Janice Schwarz jan...@geekartist.net
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote:
I'm pretty sure there is no such standard preventing mobile phones
from opening new windows because my aging nokia e90 can do it (since
one of the early upgrades - move to the link, left shoulder button,
Open in New), Firefox on Android can - but it's been a while since
I tried an iPhone and I can't remember if that does, but I'd be
surprised if not. Â For all the difficulty of fixing iPhones, there's
not usually that much glaringly broken on them. Â If there was, they'd
not be as popular as they are.
So I still think it's a bug if a browser can't open a new window and
wonder what phones you've being using. Â Or can someone say what
mobile phone standard prevents new windows on links?
I have witnessed this on 2 Droids 1 iPhone . This has been the
behavior for both versions of the Droid, and the iPhone I used.
That's interesting. I wonder if the bug on Androids only affects
some manufacturers? I believe the one I tested was from HTC.
But no standard preventing user control of windows, then.
[...]
When the OS informs you that you are exceeding the maximum number of
*allowed* windows, that seems more of a limitation than a bug. If you
open enough windows on a desktop or laptop, eventually it crashes too.
I managed to open 112 windows on my netbook by mistake yesterday
(crimes of a dying keyboard). No sign of any crashing, although it
took a while to clean up!
There is no unlimited number of windows that can be run on any system,
and a phone has far fewer resources than a desktop or laptop.
This is exactly why new windows should be under user control and not
website control, so users can choose where to apply the resources!
Hope that informs,
--
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http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/
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From: coder co...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:16:03 -
Subject: Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites
In one sense, this argument is fallacious, because whatever the web designer
does decides what happens when a user just 'clicks a link'. In my
experience, most folk 'out there' don't know about right clicking. To say
'it is the user's choice' is mainly untrue, because he/she doesn't know
they've got a choice, and what happens depends upon what the designer has
coded.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Rob Crowther robe...@boogdesign.com
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites
On 20/12/2011 23:44, Chris Price wrote:
One advantage I can see in
opening a new window (on a larger screen at least) is you can dismiss
the page by closing that window rather than feeling you are being taken
somewhere you don't want to go. Is this context sensitive?
Yes it is context sensitive, and the context which is important is the
user's. Since the designer can't know in what context (or for what
reason) the user is clicking on any given link it is the user who should
be deciding whether to open the link in a new window or not.
Rob
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