Re: [WSG] Webstock recordings now available
Nor I. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divahtml.com www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php Standards-compliant scripts and Dreamweaver Extensions www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver Extensions
http://www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php. Those look great! Thanks! Free validator: http://validator.w3.org/ emichael Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: You mean right in Dreamweaver? Sure. I will use that. Do you recommend any other free or not? I checked out http://www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php. Those look great! Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E Michael Brandt Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:50 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver Extensions Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: I am looking for extensions that aid in detecting errors on pages, missed alt tags, etc. Why not just Validate the page? E. Michael Brandt www.divahtml.com www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php Standards-compliant scripts and Dreamweaver Extensions www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- E. Michael Brandt www.divahtml.com www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php Standards-compliant scripts and Dreamweaver Extensions www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver Extensions
Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote: I am looking for extensions that aid in detecting errors on pages, missed alt tags, etc. Why not just Validate the page? E. Michael Brandt www.divahtml.com www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php Standards-compliant scripts and Dreamweaver Extensions www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Definition List appropriate for FAQ?
When he designed divaFAQ, Thierry Koblentz felt that DLs were the best way to go for FAQs. E. Michael Brandt www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php Standards-compliant scripts and Dreamweaver Extensions -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] semantic list with explanations
Definition List for sure. E. Michael Brandt www.divahtml.com www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php Standards-compliant scripts and Dreamweaver Extensions www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals
How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals
I agree. However it does have a slightly better semantic meaning than abbr, since we are really translating from one language to another here, not expanding an abbreviation, and surely more meaning than span. Patrick Lauke wrote: E Michael Brandt How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ? I think this may stretch the meaning of DFN. A defining instance is the occurrence of the term where the term is defined. It does not enclose the actual definition. It also should only occur once per page for each defined term. P Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor Enterprise Development University of Salford Room 113, Faraday House Salford, Greater Manchester M5 4WT UK T +44 (0) 161 295 4779 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.salford.ac.uk A GREATER MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land [UPDATE]
Peter- Good eye! -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land
[2] seems to sort just fine for me in FF2win. Just to muddy your waters. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land [UPDATE]
I am indeed able to reproduce the problem following your steps. FF2/win reports a syntax error with line 1, the DTD. I'll be real interested to see the explanation that someone comes up with. Won't be me though! Sorry. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf
By including an icon (and a title attribute) that indicates that the pdf will open in a new window, the knowledgeable user can easily right click if she wishes to override and take some other action. That's how divaPOP works. This seems to me to be the best of both worlds: novices will see the pdf in a new window so closing that window will not lose the site, and savvy users can right-click just as they would if the link were not scripted to open in a popup. Seems good to me. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf
that people who author these links without the aid of server side scripting can develop this user experience easily. Anyone seen anything like that? As it happens I offer an inexpensive script, divaPOP (both as a Dreamweaver Extension, and a Standalone script for everyone else) that does exactly that. It is an unobtrusive javascript that adds a pdf icon, right or left of the link, and opens the file in a popup window (which is my own preference since I personally lose websites all the time when I close a pdf file otherwise), all without having to add any hooks to the links at all. Optionally it also adds an icon to external links signifying that they will open in a popup window as well. It's available at http://www.divahtml.com/products/divaPOP/open_popup_windows.php I am also about to release an update that will add an option to automatically add a rel=nofollow attribute to the external links. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Positioning a background image
This is not possible with current browser support of css. repeat-y means repeat upwards and downwards, not just downwards as you would like (and who wouldn't like that?). There may be a way in your page layout to use two wrappers, placing the bg in the lower one on your page. E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] click on select element triggers block popup in IE7
I am testing a form on IE7 standalone, when I click the dropdown selection option, it triggers the 'popup blocked' message. I presume this would only happen when testing locally and not when the site is from a remote server. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyers C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?
Does anyone have many experience with http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/ ? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Lower portion of lower case y does not appear in h1 in IE7
Thank you, but I need the background image that I used in the #title tag, How about putting the background image on the H1 instead? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6
For the mneimanlogo image img{display:block} should do it. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Joyce Evans wrote: Thanks so much for the information to make this appear correctly in FF 2! Now if someone has a clue why the page header div won’t sit right on top of the nav div but rather splits (showing some of the white background) while viewing in IE6, that would be great! Joyce *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Moore *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2007 12:35 PM *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6 In your CSS change to this: #nav ul { margin: 0px 35px 0 35px; padding: 5px 0 0 0; text-align: center; } this works in FF 2 but note it has not been tested in IE. RM On 8/10/07, *Joyce Evans* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the link to a website, and I've only gotten this far: http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal navigation links do not center but rather move to the right so that I don't see the full Contact link. In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav div. There is some additional white space (from the background color). Could anyone please help. I seem to do fine with CSS when the navigation is vertical in a column, but I always run into problems when the navigation is horizontal. Thank you, Joyce *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Lower portion of lower case y does not appear in h1 in IE7
an h1 tag within a #title tag. Does anyone have an idea why I can’t see the lower portion of “y”? If you rid entirely of the title div, and its styling, and use this for your h1 styling, it ought to work better I think: h1 { background-color: #f29d0f; color: #fff; text-align: right; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1.4em; padding: 0.2em 0.4em; } -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS height/padding
If I understand what you are asking, try using line-height instead of what you are doing now. That will keep the text centered vertically in the element. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Christian Fagan wrote: Hi all, I have previously tried to create a horizontal page navigation with a fixed height but there seems to be two distinct problems with the two methods that I have used to date. 1) The first method employs top and bottom padding on a elements to vertically centre the text within the anchor box. This method works fine, until the text is re-sized. 2) The second method involves declaring a height for the a element but then the text is top aligned vertically (looks ugly). I have also tried declaring top padding combined with a height value to lessen the text resize issue but I would like to hear from anyone who knows a way to align text vertically, as well as assign a set height to elements (particularly a elements in a horizontal nav structure). Thanks. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS height/padding
You're very welcome. There are a bewildering array of tricks with CSS. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Christian Fagan wrote: Thankyou for responses... Thanks Michael, this is what I was after E Michael Brandt wrote: If I understand what you are asking, try using line-height instead of what you are doing now. That will keep the text centered vertically in the element. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
We are discussing the current draft of html5: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#block-level btw, my example of div img /div was not a good one as the proposed new rule allows either inline OR blcok level elements within a div, just not both. however it does seem to say this would not be allowed, which makes no sense to me: div img p/p /div -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Rimantas Liubertas wrote: I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I realized that my interpretation would outlaw this: div img /div and surely that must be okay, no? I am confused, what problem do you try to solve? Yes, according to specification and DTD as shown earlier it is ok to have inline, block, or mixed content in DIV. Semantics don't have much to do with it - as you may have valid reasons to wrap single word (or image, or link) in SPAN you may have valid reasons to wrap it in DIV - they are both generic containers. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I realized that my interpretation would outlaw this: div img /div and surely that must be okay, no? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- E Michael Brandt wrote: I am going to disagree with my own last statement - it may be valid in the sense that it passes Validation testing online, but surely it is not semantically reasonable to have bare text. I am less sure myself about the semantics of bare a tags, but for the sake of symmetry.. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
Go ahead and try it, as I did. Create a page with that markup and run it thru a validator. It passes just fine. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Jermayn Parker wrote: Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:43:17 am uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in Strict XHTML and HTML4. Hope that clarifies. btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no surprise. This is, at least in part, due to differing default css values in each browser. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in Strict XHTML and HTML4. Hope that clarifies. btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no surprise. This is, at least in part, due to differing default css values in each browser. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Jermayn Parker wrote: OK thanks. I assumed it was a no no as it does not make sense but I have learnt that making sense is not always a W3C thing :) In the templates that I recieved, the code looked like: div jhd jhd hwd wqdkh br /br / pkhdj jwhd jhwqdj hwd/p /div This actually does not view the same in every browser. In FF it showed up as a seperate paragraph but in IE it did not, it just broke the paragraph to the next line. I noted it hear on my blog http://germworks.net/blog/2007/04/05/inappropriate-use-of-p/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:03:58 am It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so. Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites? Nope. AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the foreseeable future. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS
ahhah, okay, glad you worked it out. btw, I noticed that you are using blockquote the way older versions of DW suggested, as an indent. That is not really the proper use of that tag. It would really be better to use css to shift some other block-level element that wraps your text. A couple of links on this subject: http://tom.me.uk/html-to-css/indent.html http://www.wise-women.org/tutorials/cssplanning/ Just a thought. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- E Michael Brandt wrote: I just checked your page again and it looks just right - unless I am not understanding what you are after. Now both the blockquote and the footer are below each set of thumbs. Is that not what you were looking for? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS
It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as we speak. However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding this to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr: clear:right; -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone help me out here: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/ There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out. -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS
I just checked your page again and it looks just right - unless I am not understanding what you are after. Now both the blockquote and the footer are below each set of thumbs. Is that not what you were looking for? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Thanks Michael, but it does not fix it... and yes i was working on fixing it... I add the clear left as it i floating left originally... but it is still like that On 7/26/07, * E Michael Brandt* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as we speak. However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding this to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr: clear:right; -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com http://www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com http://www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Olajide Olaolorun wrote: Can someone help me out here: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/ There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out. -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
we agree. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Raena Jackson Armitage wrote: On 7/27/07, *Jermayn Parker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags Valid or not, it's not very semantic. -- Raena Jackson Armitage www.raena.net http://www.raena.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Target 1st item in list
Given the poor current browser css support for this, perhaps the best thing would be to write a small bit of DOM script that would add a class to that first li for you, on the fly, on page load. It would go something like this: function styleFirstLI(){ // by divaHTML.com var d=document; if (!d.getElementsByTagName()) return; var zULs=d.getElementsByTagName('ul'); for (var i=0, len=zULs.length;ilen;i++){ var li=zULs[i].firstChild; li.className='firstLI'; } } Watch for my typos. Add a class 'firstLI' to your stylesheet. Then call styleFirstLI() on page load, and of course after the uls have been generated by your other scripts. Hope that helps. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Nick Roper wrote: I need to target the 1st item in a list. However, to make things complicated I can't assign a class or id to it. This is because of the way that the code is generated. So, given the following example code: h3 class=someClassHeading Text/h3 ul class=someOtherClass liItem 1/li liItem 2/li liItem 3/li liItem 4/li /ul Is there a way that I can target the li for Item 1 without it having a specific id or class assigned to it? Thanks in anticipation. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
Interesting. Yes i guess an a tag does not cut the mustard, as it is not a block level element. Good observation. But nonetheless, the w3c html validator says it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. So not currently a problem, so it would appear. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Joyce Evans wrote: I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and realized this is what this thread is about. The code I see is: div class=nav_sub_left a href=../news.htmlNews lt;/a pTestimonials lt;/p pa href=links.htmlPartner Links lt;/a/p /div Are you all saying it's not good that the first line in the div tag doesn't have paragraph tags around it? What if the extra space a paragraph tag would give is not wanted? Maybe I didn't study this thread well enough. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E Michael Brandt Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:38 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element we agree. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so. Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites? Nope. AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the foreseeable future. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Jermayn Parker wrote: Could someone please give me the answer to this in plain english.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/07/2007 4:04:18 pm div A line of plain text. pA paragraph./p Another line of text. /div Now a question, Is this actually valid?? I recently recieved some templates of another designer and this was scattered all throughout the pages. I went through and put p around them BUT is it valid??? Or is it a case of in Transitional DTD its ok but Strict DTD it is not?? Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD: Let's see DIV: !ELEMENT DIV - - (%flow;)*-- generic language/style container -- Ok, now let's look up what is %flow: !ENTITY % flow %block; | %inline; Checking %inline: !ENTITY % inline #PCDATA | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %special; | %formctrl; Just to make sure - %special: !ENTITY % special A | IMG | OBJECT | BR | SCRIPT | MAP | Q | SUB | SUP | SPAN | BDO Woohoo, A is here. Case closed. The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element
I am going to disagree with my own last statement - it may be valid in the sense that it passes Validation testing online, but surely it is not semantically reasonable to have bare text. I am less sure myself about the semantics of bare a tags, but for the sake of symmetry.. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- E Michael Brandt wrote: Interesting. Yes i guess an a tag does not cut the mustard, as it is not a block level element. Good observation. But nonetheless, the w3c html validator says it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. So not currently a problem, so it would appear. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***