Re: [WSG] Webstock recordings now available

2008-03-21 Thread E Michael Brandt

Nor I.

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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver Extensions

2008-02-11 Thread E Michael Brandt

 http://www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php.
 Those look great!

Thanks!

Free validator:

http://validator.w3.org/

emichael


Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote:

You mean right in Dreamweaver? Sure. I will use that. Do you recommend
any other  free or not? I checked out
http://www.divahtml.com/products/scripts_dreamweaver_extensions.php.
Those look great!

Kevin

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Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote:
  I am looking for
  extensions that aid in detecting errors on pages, missed alt tags,
etc.

Why not just Validate the page?


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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver Extensions

2008-02-11 Thread E Michael Brandt


Erickson, Kevin (DOE) wrote:
 I am looking for
 extensions that aid in detecting errors on pages, missed alt tags, etc.

Why not just Validate the page?


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Re: [WSG] Definition List appropriate for FAQ?

2008-01-17 Thread E Michael Brandt
When he designed divaFAQ, Thierry Koblentz felt that DLs were the best 
way to go for FAQs.


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Re: [WSG] semantic list with explanations

2008-01-08 Thread E Michael Brandt

Definition List for sure.


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Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread E Michael Brandt

How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ?

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Re: [WSG] Appropriate use of the ABBR tag and Roman Numerals

2007-11-29 Thread E Michael Brandt
I agree.  However it does have a slightly better semantic meaning than 
abbr, since we are really translating from one language to another 
here, not expanding an abbreviation, and surely more meaning than span.


Patrick Lauke wrote:

E Michael Brandt



How about dfn title=Year 2007MMVII/dfn ?


I think this may stretch the meaning of DFN. A defining instance is the 
occurrence of the term where the term is defined. It does not enclose the actual 
definition. It also should only occur once per page for each defined term.

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Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land [UPDATE]

2007-10-18 Thread E Michael Brandt

Peter-

Good eye!

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Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land

2007-10-17 Thread E Michael Brandt

[2] seems to sort just fine for me in FF2win.

Just to muddy your waters.

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Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land [UPDATE]

2007-10-17 Thread E Michael Brandt
I am indeed able to reproduce the problem following your steps. FF2/win 
reports a syntax error with line 1, the DTD.  I'll be real interested to 
see the explanation that someone comes up with.  Won't be me though!  Sorry.


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Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf

2007-10-17 Thread E Michael Brandt
By including an icon (and a title attribute) that indicates that the pdf 
will open in a new window, the knowledgeable user can easily right click 
if she wishes to override and take some other action.  That's how 
divaPOP works.  This seems to me to be the best of both worlds: novices 
will see the pdf in a new window so closing that window will not lose 
the site, and savvy users can right-click just as they would if the link 
were not scripted to open in a popup. Seems good to me.


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Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf

2007-10-16 Thread E Michael Brandt

 that people who author these links without the aid of server side
 scripting can develop this user experience easily. Anyone seen anything
 like that?

As it happens I offer an inexpensive script, divaPOP (both as a 
Dreamweaver Extension, and a Standalone script for everyone else) that 
does exactly that.  It is an unobtrusive javascript that adds a pdf 
icon, right or left of the link, and opens the file in a popup window 
(which is my own preference since I personally lose websites all the 
time when I close a pdf file otherwise), all without having to add any 
hooks to the links at all.


Optionally it also adds an icon to external links signifying that they 
will open in a popup window as well.


It's available at 
http://www.divahtml.com/products/divaPOP/open_popup_windows.php


I am also about to release an update that will add an option to 
automatically add a rel=nofollow attribute to the external links.


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Re: [WSG] Positioning a background image

2007-09-30 Thread E Michael Brandt
This is not possible with current browser support of css.  repeat-y 
means repeat upwards and downwards, not just downwards as you would like 
(and who wouldn't like that?).  There may be a way in your page layout 
to use two wrappers, placing the bg in the lower one on your page.



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Re: [WSG] click on select element triggers block popup in IE7

2007-09-09 Thread E Michael Brandt

 I am testing a form on IE7 standalone, when I click the dropdown
 selection option, it triggers the 'popup blocked' message.

I presume this would only happen when testing locally and not when the 
site is from a remote server.


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Re: [WSG] will Eric Meyers C SS SCULPTOR put me out of job?

2007-08-27 Thread E Michael Brandt

Does anyone have many experience with

http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/

?

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Re: [WSG] Lower portion of lower case y does not appear in h1 in IE7

2007-08-11 Thread E Michael Brandt

Thank you, but I need the background image that I used in the #title tag,


How about putting the background image on the H1 instead?


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Re: [WSG] CSS Problem in Mozilla and IE6

2007-08-10 Thread E Michael Brandt

For the mneimanlogo image

img{display:block} should do it.


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Joyce Evans wrote:

Thanks so much for the information to make this appear correctly in FF 2!

 

Now if someone has a clue why the page header div won’t sit right on top 
of the nav div but rather splits (showing some of the white background) 
while viewing in IE6, that would be great!


 


Joyce



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In your CSS

change to this:

#nav ul {
margin: 0px 35px 0 35px;
padding: 5px 0 0 0;
text-align: center;
}

this works in FF 2 but note it has not been tested in IE.

RM

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Here is the link to a website, and I've only gotten this far:

 

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html 
http://www.nichemktghouston.com/mneiman/physician.html


 

So far, It looks proper in IE7, but in Mozilla, the horizontal 
navigation links do not center but rather move to the right so that I 
don't see the full Contact link.


 

In IE 6, the pageHeader div is not stacked directly above the nav div.  
There is some additional white space (from the background color).


 

Could anyone please help.  I seem to do fine with CSS when the 
navigation is vertical in a column, but I always run into problems when 
the navigation is horizontal.


 


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Re: [WSG] Lower portion of lower case y does not appear in h1 in IE7

2007-08-10 Thread E Michael Brandt


an h1 tag within a #title tag.  Does anyone have an idea why I can’t see 
the lower portion of “y”?



If you rid entirely of the title div, and its styling, and use this for 
your h1 styling, it ought to work better I think:


h1 {
background-color: #f29d0f;
color: #fff;
text-align: right;
font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 1.4em;
padding: 0.2em 0.4em;
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Re: [WSG] CSS height/padding

2007-08-01 Thread E Michael Brandt
If I understand what you are asking, try using line-height instead of 
what you are doing now.  That will keep the text centered vertically in 
the element.


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Christian Fagan wrote:

Hi all,

I have previously tried to create a horizontal page navigation with a 
fixed height but there seems to be two distinct problems with the two 
methods that I have used to date.


1) The first method employs top and bottom padding on a elements to 
vertically centre the text within the anchor box. This method works 
fine, until the text is re-sized.
2) The second method involves declaring a height for the a element but 
then the text is top aligned vertically (looks ugly).


I have also tried declaring top padding combined with a height value to 
lessen the text resize issue but I would like to hear from anyone who 
knows a way to align text vertically, as well as assign a set height to 
elements (particularly a elements in a horizontal nav structure).


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Re: [WSG] CSS height/padding

2007-08-01 Thread E Michael Brandt

You're very welcome.  There are a bewildering array of tricks with CSS.

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Christian Fagan wrote:

Thankyou for responses...

Thanks Michael, this is what I was after

E Michael Brandt wrote:
If I understand what you are asking, try using line-height instead of 
what you are doing now.  That will keep the text centered vertically 
in the element.








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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-27 Thread E Michael Brandt

We are discussing the current draft of html5:

http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#block-level

btw, my example of
div
img
/div
was not a good one as the proposed new rule allows either inline OR 
blcok level elements within a div, just not both.


however it does seem to say this would not be allowed, which makes no 
sense to me:


div
img
p/p
/div

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Rimantas Liubertas wrote:

I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I
realized that my interpretation would outlaw this:

div
img
/div

and surely that must be okay, no?


I am confused, what problem do you try to solve?
Yes, according to specification and DTD as shown earlier it is ok to
have inline, block,
or mixed content in DIV.
Semantics don't have much to do with it - as you may have valid reasons to wrap
single word (or image, or link) in SPAN you may have valid reasons to
wrap it in DIV - they are both generic containers.

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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-27 Thread E Michael Brandt
I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I 
realized that my interpretation would outlaw this:


div
img
/div

and surely that must be okay, no?

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I am going to disagree with my own last statement - it may be valid in 
the sense that it passes Validation testing online, but surely it is not 
semantically reasonable to have bare text.  I am less sure myself about 
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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
Go ahead and try it, as I did.  Create a page with that markup and run 
it thru a validator.  It passes just fine.


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Jermayn Parker wrote:

Just how can this be valid??
the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be
contained by a p tag or other similar tags



[EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:43:17 am 

uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you.  It
apparently 
will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in 
Strict XHTML and HTML4.


Hope that clarifies.

btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no 
surprise.  This is, at least in part, due to differing default css 
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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you.  It apparently 
will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in 
Strict XHTML and HTML4.


Hope that clarifies.

btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no 
surprise.  This is, at least in part, due to differing default css 
values in each browser.


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Jermayn Parker wrote:

OK thanks.
I assumed it was a no no as it does not make sense but I have learnt
that making sense is not always a W3C thing :)

In the templates that I recieved, the code looked like:

div
jhd jhd hwd wqdkh br /br /
pkhdj jwhd jhwqdj hwd/p
/div

This actually does not view the same in every browser. In FF it showed
up as a seperate paragraph but in IE it did not, it just broke the
paragraph to the next line.
I noted it hear on my blog
http://germworks.net/blog/2007/04/05/inappropriate-use-of-p/




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It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so.
Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites?  Nope. 
AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the 
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Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt

ahhah,  okay, glad you worked it out.

btw, I noticed that you are using blockquote the way older versions of 
DW suggested, as an indent.  That is not really the proper use of that 
tag.  It would really be better to use css to shift some other 
block-level element that wraps your text.


A couple of links on this subject:

http://tom.me.uk/html-to-css/indent.html
http://www.wise-women.org/tutorials/cssplanning/

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E Michael Brandt wrote:
I just checked your page again and it looks just right - unless I am not 
 understanding what you are after.  Now both the blockquote and the 
footer are below each set of thumbs.  Is that not what you were looking 
for?






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Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as 
we speak.  However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to 
float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding this 
to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr:


clear:right;


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Olajide Olaolorun wrote:

Can someone help me out here:

http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/

There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures 
end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use the p 
tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out.


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Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
I just checked your page again and it looks just right - unless I am not 
 understanding what you are after.  Now both the blockquote and the 
footer are below each set of thumbs.  Is that not what you were looking 
for?


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Olajide Olaolorun wrote:
Thanks Michael, but it does not fix it... and yes i was working on 
fixing it... I add the clear left as it i floating left originally... 
but it is still like that


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It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as
we speak.  However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to
float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding
this
to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr:

clear:right;


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  Can someone help me out here:
 
  http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/gfx/
 
  There is a problem with where the text start and where the pictures
  end.. For some reson it loads under the pictres and i have to use
the p
  tag to create spacing for it... can someone help me out.
 
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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt

we agree.

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Raena Jackson Armitage wrote:
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Just how can this be valid??
the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be
contained by a p tag or other similar tags



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Re: [WSG] Target 1st item in list

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
Given the poor current browser css support for this, perhaps the best 
thing would be to write a small bit of DOM script that would add a class 
to that first li for you, on the fly, on page load. It would go 
something like this:


function styleFirstLI(){ // by divaHTML.com
var d=document;
if (!d.getElementsByTagName()) return;
var zULs=d.getElementsByTagName('ul');
for (var i=0, len=zULs.length;ilen;i++){
var li=zULs[i].firstChild;
li.className='firstLI';
}
}

Watch for my typos.

Add a class 'firstLI' to your stylesheet.

Then call styleFirstLI() on page load, and of course after the uls have 
been generated by your other scripts.


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Nick Roper wrote:
I need to target the 1st item in a list. However, to make things 
complicated I can't assign a class or id to it. This is because of the 
way that the code is generated.


So, given the following example code:

h3 class=someClassHeading Text/h3
ul class=someOtherClass   
liItem 1/li

liItem 2/li
liItem 3/li
liItem 4/li
/ul

Is there a way that I can target the li for Item 1 without it having a 
specific id or class assigned to it?


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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
Interesting.  Yes i guess an a tag does not cut the mustard, as it is 
not a block level element.  Good observation.  But nonetheless, the w3c 
html validator says it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. So not currently a 
problem, so it would appear.


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Joyce Evans wrote:

I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and realized
this is what this thread is about.  The code I see is:

div class=nav_sub_left
a href=../news.htmlNews  lt;/a
pTestimonials lt;/p
pa href=links.htmlPartner Links lt;/a/p
/div

Are you all saying it's not good that the first line in the div tag doesn't
have paragraph tags around it?  What if the extra space a paragraph tag
would give is not wanted?  Maybe I didn't study this thread well enough.



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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt

It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so.
Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites?  Nope. 
AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the 
foreseeable future.


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Jermayn Parker wrote:

Could someone please give me the answer to this in plain english..




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div
A line of plain text.
pA paragraph./p
Another line of text.
/div

Now a question, Is this actually valid??
I recently recieved some templates of another designer and this was
scattered all throughout the pages.

I went through and put p around them BUT is it valid??? Or is it a
case of in Transitional DTD its ok but Strict DTD it is not??


Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD:

Let's see DIV:
!ELEMENT DIV - - (%flow;)*-- generic language/style
container --

Ok, now let's look up what is %flow:

!ENTITY % flow %block; | %inline;

Checking %inline:
!ENTITY % inline #PCDATA | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %special; |
%formctrl;

Just to make sure - %special:

!ENTITY % special
   A | IMG | OBJECT | BR | SCRIPT | MAP | Q | SUB | SUP | SPAN |
BDO

Woohoo, A is here. Case closed.



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Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
I am going to disagree with my own last statement - it may be valid in 
the sense that it passes Validation testing online, but surely it is not 
semantically reasonable to have bare text.  I am less sure myself about 
the semantics of bare a tags, but for the sake of symmetry..


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 Interesting.  Yes i guess an a tag does not cut the mustard, as it is
 not a block level element.  Good observation.  But nonetheless, the w3c
 html validator says it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. So not currently a
 problem, so it would appear.



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