Re: [WSG] Looking for party animals
I'm signed up for the one in Winnipeg, MB, Canada! :D Hopefully more will sign up! Joseph Lindsay wrote: And for the Kiwis (Wellington): http://www.openforce.at/mozparty2/?party=172 On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:51:40 +1000, Nigel McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear OSIA and WSG members, If you happen to: - like Mozilla or Firefox Web browsers - enjoy social occasions - reside in one of these places in Oz: - Adelaide (or SA) - Canberra - Tassie - Darwin and possibly know how to book a casual evening event, then could you please get fired up? Firefox 1.0 is about to turn zero and we're trying to organise something in every state and territory in Australia in November. Currently organised parties are advertised here: http://www.openforce.at/mozparty2/?view=AU C'mon, join in! (and maybe win a book) thanks, Nigel. -- - Nigel McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Services: Analysis, Programming, Writing, Education Expertise:Software, Telecommunications, Internet, Physics "Rapid Application Development with Mozilla" / www.nigelmcfarlane.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] proper header backgrounds
Thanks so muchh Amit! That worked
great, with a few modifications for my specific design. Thank you so
much! 8-)
Jeremy S.
Author of JezzJournal
Co-Founder of Effuse
Amit Karmakar wrote:
Jeremy, here goes. my $0.02
div id="banner"
h1a href="" accesskey="1"My Header/a/h1
/div
#banner {background-color: #ccc;
background-image: url(header.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;
height: 60px;
padding: 15px 0 15px 15px;
text-align: left;
}
#banner a {color: #990; text-decoration: none;}
#banner h1 {font-size: xx-large;}
hope this helps.
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 04:46:26 -0500, Jeremy S. (WSG) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to make my header image be completely controlled by css, so if I
was to have a style switcher, it would be easily changed. I know this is
really easy, but I'm having trouble finding any information from google.
Right now, I've got this.
div id="header"
h1JezzJournal/h1
/div
CSS
#header {
background: url(../images/header.jpg);
width: widthofjpg;
height: widthofjpg;
}
doesn't seem to be working, but I'm sure I'm doing it wrong. Thanks for all
your help! 8-)
--
Jeremy S.
Author of JezzJournal
Co-Founder of Effuse
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[WSG] proper header backgrounds
I'm trying to make my header image
be completely controlled by css, so if I was to have a style switcher,
it would be easily changed. I know this is really easy, but I'm having
trouble finding any information from google.
Right now, I've got this.
div id="header"
h1JezzJournal/h1
/div
CSS
#header {
background: url(../images/header.jpg);
width: widthofjpg;
height: widthofjpg;
}
doesn't seem to be working, but I'm sure I'm doing it wrong. Thanks for
all your help! 8-)
--
Jeremy S.
Author of JezzJournal
Co-Founder of Effuse
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[WSG] Web Site Structure Suggestions, Second Post!
To the many members of WSG: This is my second post on this same subject, and I'm hoping that this time I'll be able to get a response. :-) I have built up a design in Photoshop, which you can view here or here. I'm looking to get help on how I should write up the structure for the site, as I'm a bit confused about the best way to attack it. So far, this is what I have. !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd" html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" head titleJezzJournal *new*/title meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" / /head body div id="container" div id="header" h1 id="header-text"JezzJournal/h1 /div div id="sidebar" sidebar links. /div div id="navigation" links. /div div id="content" all sorts of content here /div /div /body /html What do you think? Would what I have be best for what I'm trying to accomplish? -- Jeremy S. Author of JezzJournal Co-Founder of Effuse inline: getfirefox.gif
[WSG] New Design Structure
Hey there. I'm currently working on a design, and have finished the look of it (almost competely), which you can view here. http://effuse.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=461#461 Now, my question regards how to properly take this design and mark it up. This is what I'm thinking basically, at this time. div id="container" div id="header" (blank, as I want to imbed the header.jpg in CSS) /div div id="sidebar" (side bar information) /div div id="content-container" div id="navigation" (navigation information) /div div id="content" (all content goes here) /div /div /div Of course, if it is any other way, or if there is a better way to mark it up, please let me know. I'm looking for the best way to do it, which will cause the least issues possible. -- Jeremy S. Author of JezzJournal Co-Founder of Effuse inline: getfirefox.gif
Re: [WSG] Accessible Odeon on BBC Radio 4
Just listened to this excellent piece. They had a similar debate/questionaire on CBC Radio One a few months back, unfortunately, it is not avaliable online. :-( Charles Roper wrote: Today I heard a short piece on BBC Radio 4's Today programme talking about Matthew Somerville's Accessible Odeon site and web accessibility in general. Worth a listen (requires RealPlayer): http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/ram/today5_business_20040921.ram Good to hear accessibility issues such as this reaching the mainstream media. -- Jeremy S. Author of JezzJournal Co-Founder of Effuse inline: getfirefox.gif
Re: [WSG] introduction
Welcome John! I'm sure you'll fit right in here. =) john wrote: Hello, everybody. I've been reading the list for a day or two, and I'm very excited to be part of the growing number of designers/developers who are taking a stand for standards. A little bit about me: I am originally from Seattle, Washington, USA, but moved to Portugal in April, 2003, in order to get off the fast track and slow my pace a little (it helps that my wife is Portuguese *grin*). I've been a Web developer since 1995, and started off on the right foot with learning HTML, coding by hand (via PICO), and using the tags for what they were meant for (rather than what they did to the appearance of a Web page). In 1998, however, I went to work for the Seattle Chamber of Commerce, who was naturally a strong supporter of Microsoft -- the result was that I was forced to start using FrontPage and Internet Explorer. In 2002, I switched to Dreamweaver (which permits me to hand-code again, with a few bells amp; whistles)...and a year ago I made Mozilla my default browser. Having just bought and devoured Jeffrey Zeldman's book, I am (again) a supporter and devout follower of Web standards and plan to redesign all my sites as time permits. Seems that, while I have a solid background in HTML, a natural tendency towards minimalist design, and some experience with CSS1, I have a lot to learn regarding CSS2. Forgive me, reader, for I have sinned against tables...bastardizing them for layout and whitespace. :/ I have repented and am slowly making my way towards the light, which is why I have joined this list, as I hope to get support in my efforts. -- Jeremy S. Author of JezzJournal Co-Founder of Effuse inline: getfirefox.gif
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
Hey there. I find that when I do so, even with my site, it simply breaks my site design. It's when I click on the EditCSS button that such happens. It doesn't seem to happen with many other sites, just mine. Would that be a problem with my CSS code? Matt Andrews wrote: ... and, if you're using the Web Developer extension, Firefox has a huge advantage over Mozilla: the "Edit CSS" feature - a must for any CSS developer! load a page, choose "Edit CSS", and a sidebar opens with the CSS files. edit them and see the results *instantly* in the browser. save the CSS files out to disk. bliss :) On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:50:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Mozilla has a more mature UI, besides bundling not only mailnews but also IRC chat, address book, and web page composer. Firefox is less mature, but offers more customizability of the UI itself, separate from any extensions you may choose to add. FF, being smaller, runs slightly faster. So, which to pick depends on personal preferences as to look and feel and minor functionality, in addition to whether you need or want the bundled apps. Either way you choose, you'll want the web developer extension: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/webdeveloper ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
Hey there. I find that when I do so, even with my site, it simply breaks my site design. It's when I click on the EditCSS button that such happens. It doesn't seem to happen with many other sites, just mine. Would that be a problem with my CSS code? Matt Andrews wrote: ... and, if you're using the Web Developer extension, Firefox has a huge advantage over Mozilla: the "Edit CSS" feature - a must for any CSS developer! load a page, choose "Edit CSS", and a sidebar opens with the CSS files. edit them and see the results *instantly* in the browser. save the CSS files out to disk. bliss :) On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:50:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Mozilla has a more mature UI, besides bundling not only mailnews but also IRC chat, address book, and web page composer. Firefox is less mature, but offers more customizability of the UI itself, separate from any extensions you may choose to add. FF, being smaller, runs slightly faster. So, which to pick depends on personal preferences as to look and feel and minor functionality, in addition to whether you need or want the bundled apps. Either way you choose, you'll want the web developer extension: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/webdeveloper ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
I apologize for the repeat message. My mistake. :-( Jeremy S. (WSG) wrote: Hey there. I find that when I do so, even with my site, it simply breaks my site design. It's when I click on the EditCSS button that such happens. It doesn't seem to happen with many other sites, just mine. Would that be a problem with my CSS code? Matt Andrews wrote: ... and, if you're using the Web Developer extension, Firefox has a huge advantage over Mozilla: the "Edit CSS" feature - a must for any CSS developer! load a page, choose "Edit CSS", and a sidebar opens with the CSS files. edit them and see the results *instantly* in the browser. save the CSS files out to disk. bliss :) On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:50:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Mozilla has a more mature UI, besides bundling not only mailnews but also IRC chat, address book, and web page composer. Firefox is less mature, but offers more customizability of the UI itself, separate from any extensions you may choose to add. FF, being smaller, runs slightly faster. So, which to pick depends on personal preferences as to look and feel and minor functionality, in addition to whether you need or want the bundled apps. Either way you choose, you'll want the web developer extension: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/webdeveloper ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] AntiSpam Alert from tbrick52
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[WSG] Some Problems in IE (what else?)
Hey everyone, Havent been too active on the whole web development front for quite some time, so Im having trouble executing some things that I want to get done. Ive recently been working on a revision of the design for my main site (www.jezzjournal.com) because there are issues in IE, and it needs to look better as my skills progress. =) Ive been working on the design located at http://www.affectus.net/freelance/2004_07_jezzjournal/ and as you can see, Ive been changing how things look, trying to shine the apple per say. Problem is, in IE the sidebar really messes up. Instead of the h2 tag aligning nicely, it has about 10px of space on the left side in IE 6.0, and it hides some of the ulli tags! Im really not sure how to fix this without ruining alignment in Firefox (my testing browser). Also, in the comments section of my new design, you may notice Ive played with how the comments appear (the ol li stuff). In Firefox, Ive got it almost looking like what I want, but in IE 6.0 for some reason it adds a lot of extra space, and it doesnt look as good. =/ And, problem 3. In my current design, when I use the class imgleft to separate my pictures from the post, it breaks my sidebar in IE6.0. For an example, please check out this page http://www.jezzjournal.com/?s=imgleft . I want to avoid this in my revision, so if you could figure out a way to fix this, which Im sure is the boxhack, that would be great. I would like to know how to get the box model hack working my revision design as well, I have never really understood it. =/ Thanks so much for your help with my three issues, I know its a lot, but I really hope you guys can help. Im so frustrated with IE! Ack! Jeremy Shields www.jezzjournal.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [WSG] [OT] Internet Explorer Weblog
It's great to see they -may- be opening up to the community, but I really do not forsee any great changes in the IE philosophy by Microsoft. They see 85% of market, and are happy with just that and a few security updates. I'd hate to work for Microsoft. Well, maybe not, they pay well don't they? Jeremy www.jezzjournal.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krassy Sent: July 23, 2004 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] [OT] Internet Explorer Weblog There is an ounce of hope that IE might listen to what the world is waiting for. Let the IE developers know that we would love to see an upgraded IE browser with better web standards support. IEBlog - the Microsoft Internet Explorer Weblog: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/ Cheers, Krassy = Krassy Lyakov web.developer web: http://www.krassy.com/ blog: http://www.krassycandoit.com/blah/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Must Read
I took a look at the example page, and in FireFox .9 and a broadband connection, it took a good couple of seconds before the images showed up properly. I was considering using some sort of image replacement for my new design of my journal, and I was highly considering this one. But I'm really not sure at this point. I really do agree with the idea of accessibility, and this seems to limit that. Jeremy - www.jezzjournal.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bert Doorn Sent: June 16, 2004 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Must Read opinion Whatever the technique, using images for headings is, to me, backward, pixel perfect, print thinking. I visited the site - I only have a modem connection. I dind't like the way the headings disappeared, got replaced with image placeholders which slwly filled up with text that was there in the first place. Perhaps I am a lone voice in the desert, but why go back to 1990's style websites when we have CSS? Is it necessary to make people wait, just so you can show them the font YOU like (and they might not be able to see anyway)? /opinion Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design www.betterwebdesign.com.au Fast-loading, user-friendly websites * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] CSS Menu Issues - Client Site
Hello there. Im developing a site for a local hat shop, and Im having some problems with the menu. If you could please take a look at the following link: http://www.affectus.net/freelance/2004_05_phathats/ Here are the issues I am experiencing: 1) I would like for the navigation to stretch 100% of the width (750px). I will style the a:active stuff later, once the base is aligned the way I would like. 2) I notice there is a break between the different boxes of the navigation. Id like to know how to get rid of these things. 3) In Firefox .8 (which I test on), I find that there is a break in the white background right about where the navigation is. I would like to make a solid white background from header to footer. Thanks so much for your time. I hope you guys can figure it out, Ive been banging my head on the table for the last two hours. Jeremy Shields www.jezzjournal.com www.affectus.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?
I use the code view in Dreamweaver MX 2004, and I do a lot of hand coding still. I also have used TopStyle from time to time, great little utility. =) Jeremy S. www.jezzjournal.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of helmut Sent: June 5, 2004 11:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use? What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and testing? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Accessibility software
Hello Amit, I'm sort of confused by your question. Do you mean something that tests your code for validation according to the doctype? If you are looking for something like that, the WC3 Validator is great. Or do you mean software? Like TopStyle / Dreamweaver etc? Jeremy S. www.jezzjournal.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amit Karmakar Sent: June 1, 2004 10:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Accessibility software People, A few questions regarding accessibility. I am thinking of buying a software for testing Accessibility for sites. Presently I test it through Firefox's Web Developer extension which uses Cynthia says http://www.cynthiasays.com/accverifycs/index.html My questions Is this the best Accessibility software to buy? What are my other options? How well does cynthia Says rate for testing Accessibility to Australian standards? Are there any particular softwares recommended from the Australian standpoint as far as 508 and WAI is concerned? Thanks for your inputs. Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
