RE: [WSG] NN4 - Anyone Care?

2004-12-05 Thread Joe.Huggins
Actually at our university NN4 still has a significant place. It has to
do with the way IS services are rendered - very decentralized. This
leaves a free for all and pockets where there have been no upgrades
since Adam was a cowboy. 


Joe Huggins

Colorado Area Health Education Center (AHEC)
1976 Uvalda CT, Bldg 618
Aurora, CO 80010
(W) 303.724.1131
(C) 303.903.8352 
www.uchsc.edu/ahec
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:02 PM
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Subject: [WSG] NN4 - Anyone Care?

Just a question...

Why is there such an emphasis on NN4?
Who actually still uses this?
Don't say universities because they would update...
So who actually uses it?
Why is it more important to worry about NN4 than Konqueror or Safari?

Is NN4 still avaliable for download anywhere but Evolt

Cheers!

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Chris Stratford
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RE: Future.....(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs)

2004-07-08 Thread Joe.Huggins
Well, to answer that i dare you to walk into any web-based enterprise
that has a DHTML intranet, and say the following words:
Get rid of IFRAMES, and use something else

Wear some padding, as the fall from the window could be high.

Scott Barnes

I think this demonstrates why having the Web vote on what should be
standards falls flat.

Wallace Stegner wrote, I don't know what I like as much as I like what
I know. Meaning, in this context, that people are likely to maintain
what they know and are comfortable with rather than to move forward into
concepts that force them to change. 

I work in a university and my guess if put to a vote we would have
outlawed any sort of CSS-P and probably any CSS at all. These folks grew
up on tables and font tags and are loathe to give them up. 

Sometimes it is good to have people with vision to lead people where
they would not go themselves.

Joe Huggins

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RE: Future.....(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs)

2004-07-08 Thread Joe.Huggins
Good point but remember we elect people who then represent us (in theory
at least because I don't know who our current fellow at the top really
represents) and vote on particular issues/bills.

In no way do we vote on each bill. And no one is suggesting that we
would be a better democracy if each and every bill went before the
people. We can and some us do get involved at varying levels.


Joe Huggins
Technology Specialist
Colorado Area Health Education Center (AHEC)
1976 Uvalda CT, Bldg 618
Aurora, CO 80010
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Subject: Re: Future.(was: Re: [WSG] iFrames vs Scrolling Divs)

A few points have been made that Democracy in this case would be a fatal
blow to the overall purpose of what the W3C represents. I find that a
very hard thing to stomach and believe that a few would simply say that
a vote would be a long drawn out exhausting process. To me if we can
elect people within our society (in some countries) to run an entire
country based on information we are given? Surely its not that much of a
stretch in imagination to ask that we the ACTUAL development  community
have a say in the way standards are put forward to the world to follow? 
Its not a very large request?


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