RE: [WSG] Brand logos with links to home
I was wondering what the general consensus was on whether the main logo on a site should always be a link back to the home page. Is this a general 'rule of thumb' or do many tend not to do this? We routinely link the logo to the home page, and we also include an explicit home page link in the navigation menu. For NZ government sites it's mandatory. I saw some research (can't remember where but I can dig it up) that pointed to the number of users that either hit the 'back-back-back' button or the Home link when they get lost, and start again. As Paul says a text link in the nav is good but the logo's also such a nice big target to hit on with a mouse. Linking an organisation's logo back to its home page can't do any harm, anyway. Rowan Smith www.rowan.net.nz *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)
I reckon this discussion is relevant here too. The one I'm struggling with at the moment is a form with Select Gender M / F. It's a government web site so I'm trying to be careful. Checkboxes are inappropriate. I could use a select with M and F but then what for unspecified or don't want to answer or I just ignored that question? Also, whatever is chosen takes 2 clicks. Unchecked radio buttons are a very usable choice, you hit one or the other or neither and move on. Mike said ...it is sometimes invalid communications/user interface to have one and only one 'checked' item at all times. I said, and still hold to the view, that sometimes a form has to be presented with none of the radio buttons 'checked'. I agree. The standard (the HTML spec) says that's OK, and that's how we want it to work for usability. All good. But RFC1866 says the user agent should make the choice - user agent must check the first radio button of the set initially. So some standards-compliant browser is going to over-ride my standards-compliant form and check one of the radio buttons? Isn't this a conflict between the standards for UI and User Agent? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Horner Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2005 5:25 p.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?) That's the relevance to standards - i.e. that if it's only standard if there is a default radio button and never valid if none of them are 'checked' then the standard is wrong and ought to be changed. I heartily agree, Mike. Have You Validated Your Code? John Horner(+612 / 02) 9333 3488 Senior Developer, ABC Online http://www.abc.net.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)
I think this is like FAQs - my FAQ is never there. Likewise, pre-set a control to option A and I'm equally likely to want option B. IMHO pre-setting options for the user (unless they're VERY obvious) is like making assumptions about them. That said, RFC1866 says 'CHECKED' is optional but then says At all times, exactly one of the radio buttons in a set is checked. If none of the INPUT elements of a set of radio buttons specifies 'CHECKED', then the user agent must check the first radio button of the set initially. Does anybody know why one button has to be checked at all times in a circumstance like Chris referred to? Thanks Rowan Quoting Iain Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oops, sorry I didn't really read your question thoroughly. Surely an e-mail address will be either a personal or a business address. Personally I'd set the default to personal as this seems to me the most likely option. Iain -- Iain Gardiner http://www.firelightning.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris W. Parker Sent: 01 February 2005 19:12 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?) Hello, Not sure if this is off topic or not, but let me know if it is. I'm wondering what the suggested default state of a group of radio buttons is? Let me use a current, specific example. In a form I'm writing I have one set of radio buttons. The current options are 'Home', or 'Agency'. The radio button is meant to designate what type of mailing address the customer has provided. Right now I've got neither option being defaulted to. I know that radio buttons should have exactly one option chosen at all times, but in this case it doesn't make sense to add a third option of 'None', or have the group default to one option or the other. How should I handle this? Should I bite the bullet and have the options default to one of the options (both options will probably be chosen an equal amount of times, as has been the case in the past)? Or maybe I should go to a drop down list with three options? 1. '-', 2. 'Home', 3. 'Agency' Your feedback is appreciated. Chris. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
