[WSG] Seeking user style settings (CSS+) for text readability study
Hi all, I'm studying users' needs for customising text (size, colour, leading, linearization/reflow, and more) for readability. Currently I'm looking for people who have specified text format in a user style sheet or template, e.g.: * Set text in a style sheet (CSS) that you use for browsing the web, or * Set text in a template for word processing documents (e.g., normal.dot), or * Set text using other tools. If you know of anyone who might be interested in telling me about their styles, would you be willing to pass on this information? e-mail: proje...@uiaccess.com phone: +1-617-395-7664 about Shawn: http://www.uiaccess.com/profile.html Thanks! Sincerely, ~Shawn --- Shawn Henry +1-617-395-7664 proje...@uiaccess.com www.uiAccess.com/profile.html - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?
RE: But now I'm wondering if simply sticking to standards is enough? Hi Mike, Here's what W3C WAI has to say on Involving Users in Web Projects for Better, Easier Accessibility: http://www.w3.org/WAI/users/involving.html It is an introduction and links to some More Information and Guidance under http://www.w3.org/WAI/users/involving.html#fmi I hope you find this useful. As always, suggestions for revisions are welcome. Regards, ~Shawn - Shawn Lawton Henry W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) e-mail: sh...@w3.org phone: +1.617.395.7664 about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ On 8/18/2011 8:12 AM, Mike Kear wrote: How to the rest of you a/b people (i.e. able bodied) cater to users with various forms of disability? Up until recently, I've tended to rely on keeping my code to standards, eliminating tables except for their proper purpose of tabulating data, and hoping that will give the accessibility level required. Do you go to the step of accessing your sites with JAWS or something similar to see how the site works for users with screen readers? I remember in the 1990s when I was working at Australian Consumers Association (choice.com.au) we had someone come and bring his PC with JAWS. The web team all sat in the boardroom getting ever more glum looks on our faces as we saw to our horror how terrible our new design was for this poor guy. We thought we'd got a terrific new design, and were about to launch it, when he did this demo for us. We had to go back and recode everything. This was before anyone was talking about standards though - it was back when the normally accepted method of laying out pages was to use tables, and buttons were nearly always images. I remember being astounded at how fast he was moving around the page, even though we'd unwittingly designed an obstacle course of humungous proportions for him. Our anguish at the time resulted in a far better web site, and convinced me to pay attention to standards and accessibility ever since. But now I'm wondering if simply sticking to standards is enough? What do you all think? Do you include JAWS in your site testing? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Site for Vision Impaired
On 11/26/2010 5:25 PM, Daniel Anderson wrote: I was wondering if any of you have done any work on sites for the visually impaired? I have just started a projet for a school for the visually impaired... What are the considerations I need to take into account with a project like this? eg ability to change contrast, text size etc? Are there any good resources or advice you could share with me? Hi Daniel, The definitive resource for making websites and web applications accessible is the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0 from the W3C Web Accessibility Initiative. It is introduced in the WCAG Overview at: * http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag From that page you can get to: * WCAG 2 at a Glance http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/glance/ which gives you a quick overview * How to Meet WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/ which you can customize to show you the information you are interested in WCAG is a technical standard that can be used as a checklist to ensure that you are covering all accessibility issues. WCAG itself is *not* an introduction to accessibility, nor a simple tutorial. You'll need to get that elsewhere. Here are some places to start: * Accessibility - W3C http://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/accessibility * How People with Disabilities Use the Web http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web which links to the in-progress draft at http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/2009/ * Involving Users in Web Projects for Better, Easier Accessibility http://www.w3.org/WAI/users/involving I think that last doc will be especially important for your situation! It helps you understand real-world accessibility issues, such as how your target users will use the website you are developing. (Consider following some of the links, specifically http://uiaccess.com/accessucd/interact.html which I think will help with how you refer to your target users, e.g., you probably want to avoid these people when talking about your users.) The first part of that doc mentions the benefits. The specific guidance starts at http://www.w3.org/WAI/users/involving#range Hope this helps! As always, W3C WAI welcomes feedback! If anyone has comments or suggestions for any of this material, please let us know! You can send them to: * wai-eo-edit...@w3.org (a publicly-archived list) * w...@w3.org (for WAI staff, not public) * Specific places based on the document, see http://www.w3.org/WAI/contacts#documents Regards, ~Shawn - Shawn Lawton Henry W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) e-mail: sh...@w3.org phone: +1.617.395.7664 about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Was: accessibility: government
Luc wrote: Good evening list, Many thanks for the replies. Indeed, i was looking for a general list but as Steve pointed out, this would be difficult to maintain due to governments switching. W3C WAI has a list of Policies Relating to Web Accessibility for several countries at http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/ Indeed, it is out of date. It's on our To Do list to update and maintain it, but just hasn't made it to top priority yet. Many are adopting WCAG 2.0 Level AA as their standard. (WCAG is introduced at http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag. Best, ~Shawn - Shawn Lawton Henry W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) e-mail: sh...@w3.org phone: +1.617.395.7664 about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing
What similar software / online systems do people use [for web accessibility testing]... For an extensive list of Web accessibility evaluation software and online systems (tools), see: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/Overview.html It's a searchable database of over 100 tools. And I'll second Ben's recommendation to go beyond tools in evaluating accessibility. See, for example, Involving Users in Web Accessibility Evaluation http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/users.html Best, ~Shawn --- Shawn Lawton Henry W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) e-mail: sh...@w3.org phone: +1.617.395.7664 about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Re: [WSG Announce] Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0 is a Proposed Recommendation
Thanks for spreading the word, Russ. Here's some more perspective on the situation: * With real world implementations WCAG 2.0 steps closer to expected December 2008 publication blog post http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/11/with_real_world_implementation.html * WCAG 2.0 moves to last stage for expected final publication in December 2008 email announcement http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2008OctDec/0091.html ~Shawn --- Shawn Lawton Henry W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1.617.395.7664 about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ russ - maxdesign wrote: ** This is a one-way list for WSG Announcements ** Hi WSG members, For your info... Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0 is a Proposed Recommendation The Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) Working Group has published the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 as a Proposed Recommendation, and published updated Working Drafts of Understanding WCAG 2.0, Techniques for WCAG 2.0, and How to Meet WCAG 2.0. WCAG defines how to make Web sites, Web applications, and other Web content accessible to people with disabilities. Comments are welcome through 2 December 2008. Read the announcement, Overview of WCAG 2.0 Documents, and about the Web Accessibility Initiative. (Permalink) Further reading... W3C Announcement: http://www.w3.org/News/2008#item182 Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/PR-WCAG20-20081103/ How to Meet WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/ Migrating from WCAG 1.0 to WCAG 2.0 http://wipa.org.au/papers/wcag-migration.htm Accessible Forms using WCAG 2.0 http://www.usability.com.au/resources/wcag2/ Thanks Russ ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Looking to source a JAWS version
in our attempts to improve our accessibility we want to get a version of JAWS. It's not easy to master all of the JAWS commands so try the 40 minute demo first. Hi Ben, It's great that you are wanting to do accessibility testing, I assume in addition to following standards[1]. There is a fairly steep learning curve for full-fledged screen readers, and an infrequent tester cannot get a sense of what it's really like to use a screen reader without observing a regular screen reader user. Thus, I personally[2] find it's easiest and better to find regular screen reader users (that is, someone who is blind) for your main development and testing, and then use a simple free/cheap voicing browser or screen reader only for in house testing of specific things as you develop. For more on this, see: * http://www.uiaccess.com/accessucd/involve.html Regards, ~Shawn [1] http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/wcag.php [2] Note this email is not representing my employer, even though I'm on this list with my employer email address. - Shawn Lawton Henry about: www.uiAccess.com/profile.html phone: +1-617-395-7664 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Website Accessability Tools
does any one know of any good accessible off line accessability tools, Hi Marvin and all, Here is a database of web accessibility evaluation tools: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/ The advanced search lets you filter out online tools, for example, you can search for desktop evaluation tools and tools that can be run as an extension to your authoring tool. Regards, ~Shawn - Shawn Lawton Henry, W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ phone: +1-617-395-7664 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
