Re: [WSG] Site Check/Launch: Edentiti.com
A quick scan with WebLight turned up a few problems, see the report at http://www.illumit.com/reports/edentiti.html The problem found on https://edentiti.com/about-partners has me baffled. Here's the source: Epicorp - a href=http://www.epicorp.com.au/www.epicorp.com.au// a/p pimg src=/images/epicorp.jpg alt=Epicorp //p It's missing a quote at the end of the href so the img and the link don't work. The baffling part is. It validates! Check out http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fedentiti.com %2Fabout-partnerscharset=%28detect+automatically% 29doctype=Inlinesp=1verbose=1 If you search for epicorp you can see the mangled href and srcless img. Can anyone explain to me why the validator isn't flagging the in the href? Thanks, Steve Ferguson - WebLight Developer http://www.illumit.com/weblight On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:31 AM, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Hi Everyone, A new site I recently developed the front-end for over the past few months, called Edentiti [1], has just officially launched and I wanted to get some feedback about the usability, accessibility and over functionality in whatever browsers you can get your hands on. I've tested in various Windows and Mac browsers during development, but as is always the case, bugs tend to sneak in wherever they can and something may have been missed. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Check - ShetlandCoffee.com
On Jan 11, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Bill McAvinney wrote: 2. On at least some of the buy pages the very first anchor, a href=http://www.shetlandcoffee.com/;img src=../images/logo.gif class=logo alt=Shetland Coffee Company /, isn't closed. While most browsers are being generous to you and closing it for you, Safari isn't. So in Safari every piece of text on those pages is an underlined link back to the front page, if not otherwise specified. Moral: validate at the very end. Agreed. content.cfm, customer.cfm, customer_login.cfm details.cfm, product.cfm, wish_list.cfm have some markup problems starting at a href=http://www.shetlandcoffee.com/;img src=../images/ logo.gif class=logo alt=Shetland Coffee Company / ul id=your-account You might want to fix the favicon link. There are a few other markup problems, see http://illumit.com/ reports/ShetlandCoffee.html if you are interested. Hope that helps, Steve Ferguson - Illumit http://illumit.com On Jan 11, 2006, at 3:09 PM, David Nicol wrote: Hi everyone, I'd appreciate it very much if you could take a quick look at: http://www.shetlandcoffee.com/ All comments welcome. In particular, please let me know if you spot anything that I'd need to fix before my client begins to promote the site. Thank you in advance. Kind regards David Nicol www.nbcommunication.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] All in the Head DTD feedback
On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:34 AM, Karl Dawson wrote: Hi, I am thinking to change: A Document Type Definition is an XML schema language and defines a set of declarations that conform to a particular markup syntax. to simply read: A Document Type Definition defines a set of declarations that conform to a particular markup syntax. I prefer this from the HTML 4.01 spec http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/intro/ sgmltut.html#h-3.1 An SGML document type definition declares element types that represent structures or desired behavior. HTML includes element types that represent paragraphs, hypertext links, lists, tables, images, etc. Steve Ferguson - Illumit http://illumit.com It removes any confusion for both technical history buffs and newcomers I feel. Let me know if that works for you or not. Regards, -- Karl Dawson Crusader for Web Standards and Accessibility http://www.thatstandardsguy.co.uk -- Accessites Team Member - http://www.accessites.org/ -- The power of the Web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect. Tim Berners-Lee - W3C Director and inventor of the World Wide We** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** b ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Claiming compliance when a site doesn't' actually comply
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:07:42 +0100 Marco van Hylckama Vlieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm one of these site owners :) I can explain it though. Most sites that bear these buttons were actually compliant when they were launched / created. However in the real world this sometimes slightly deteriorates when stuff is added / removed / modified. It has nothing to do with 'having no clue what I'm doing' and everything with having more inportant things on my mind than making sure everything complies 'to the letter of the law'. ... Just my five cents! Marco And a great five cents it is. You almost always have make trade offs between risk/quality and time. It seems most web developers choose to accept risk for the sake of time. The sad truth is that it is quite difficult and time consuming to maintain a compliant site with the tools that most people use today. There's my five cents for the kitty. Steve - WebLight Developer http://illumit.com/weblight ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:15:13 +0800 Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, ... Is there a way to make Mambo compatible (A large reason for the work is to allow blind users to get value from the site) with accessiblily and hopefully web standards? Is there another CMS that you would mention which may suit my needs? I've never used it myself, but you might want to take a look at Joomla. It's compatible with Mambo at this point http://www.joomla.org/index.php?Itemid=44option=com_faqcatid=7 and the developers are at least are trying to be compliant and accessible http://help.joomla.org/content/view/805/125/ Cheers, Steve Ferguson - http://illumit.com/ Regards, Lloyd ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Validators
On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Geoff Pack wrote: Alan Trick wrote: Is there a problem with this: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/DOWNLOAD.html Only that it's written in Java - the server admins here would prefer something else. It looks like we will have to go with it anyway, as we can't find any alternatives. Thanks also for the other responses. We currently use the w3c online validator for sites as we develop them, but we are looking for something that will enable us to trawl though all our content and check it. I built the css validator a couple of days ago. I had planned on making a binary distribution available, but was reluctant to do so after I found quite a few problems using the command line version of the software. I've kicked it around for a few days and decided that some people might find it useful, warts and all. So if you are interest running the css-validator locally take a look at http://illumit.com/css-validator/. I'd appreciate your feedback. Sincerely, Steve Ferguson - Illumit http://illumit.com cheers, Geoff ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Browser check Site crit please
On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:59 AM, Richard Stephenson wrote: I have been working on my blog http://www.donkeymagic.co.uk for a while and it works ok in my browsers FF an IE6 on the pc but i have no access to mac browsers and little experince of mac css bugs/filters. Any help/advice/critisism will be greatfully recieved. The side bar has rendering problems under safari 2.0.1. See http:// illumit.com/reports/donkeymagic.png On my little ibook the main tabs are kind of small and hard to read. There are a few HTML conformance problems (didn't seem to cause any problem with Safari) and one broken link. See http://illumit.com/ reports/donkeymagic.html Hope that helps, Steve Ferguson - WebLight Developer - http://illumit.com/Products/ weblight/ Thanks, Richard Stephenson -- DonkeyMagic: Website design development http://www.donkeymagic.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Validators
On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Geoff Pack wrote: Alan Trick wrote: Is there a problem with this: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/DOWNLOAD.html Only that it's written in Java - the server admins here would prefer something else. It looks like we will have to go with it anyway, as we can't find any alternatives. Thanks also for the other responses. We currently use the w3c online validator for sites as we develop them, but we are looking for something that will enable us to trawl though all our content and check it. I've been thinking about integrating the w3c css validator with WebLight for quite some time. That would give you what you want a crawling css validator. Wish it was done now. I just built the validator, it's kind of a pain. I'll post a binary tommorow. Cheers, Steve Ferguson - Developer WebLight http://illumit.com/weblight cheers, Geoff ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Validators
What don't you want to use the W3C one? On Nov 23, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Geoff Pack wrote: Does anyone know of a downloadable CSS validator (other than the W3C one) that I can install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? We currently use the WDG html validator, but their CSS validator is not available for download. Cheers Geoff Pack ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Validators
On Nov 27, 2005, at 7:44 PM, Peter Williams wrote: Geoff Pack wrote: ...install on an local server to batch check files on my local network? From: Steve Ferguson What don't you want to use the W3C one? ...files on my local network, if you're working on an intranet you can't use the w3c validators, unless you cut and paste, or upload files, which is a bother at times. You can download and build the w3c css valididator. You can probably find a binary distribution, if not and you want one, let me know. I'll build one and make it available. -- Peter Williams ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Safari FOUC was site check: liquid.rdpdesign.com
It does appear that you've killed the Safari FOUC. You should document this as appears to be somewhat of a mystery. Nicely Done! Steve Ferguson - http://illumit.com On Oct 10, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Christian Montoya wrote: Safari FOUC ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] site check: liquid.rdpdesign.com
Nice! I wish I had thought of scaling screenshots to percent width, it looks better and would have saved me a lot of trouble.When I view the site using Safari it briefly renders the unstyled page. I haven't noticed this behavior before. Perhaps it's the @import?Steve Ferguson - http://illumit.comOn Oct 9, 2005, at 10:48 PM, Christian Montoya wrote:I just (hopefully) finished a somewhat complex layout. It's liquid, and has max-width for all the good browsers. As for IE, it has some _javascript_ that forces IE to implement max-width. After that, it's just an untamed liquid layout for the IE users without _javascript_... who probably don't have big screens. My intention is for this to be "robust" from 600 px wide and up. I don't know how it behaves in non-pc browsers, though. Site check? http://liquid.rdpdesign.com -- - C Montoyardpdesign.com ... liquid.rdpdesign.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com
Re: [WSG] Site check: color.rdpdesign.com
I expected the manual inputs to accept hex values since that's typically how we work with colors on the web. Perhaps you could offer the option of using hex or decimal?Steve Ferguson - Illumit L.L.C. http://illumit.comOn Oct 8, 2005, at 6:25 PM, Christian Montoya wrote:Hey all, Thanks for the checks. The problems come from the page being sized in em's, and the ads being absolutely positioned with ems... I've decided that's too difficult. I'll probably put the ads back in, but in a more robust way, so they don't risk covering content. -- - C Montoyardpdesign.com ... liquid.rdpdesign.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com
