[WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

2007-06-19 Thread Joyce Evans
I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question, but
here it is:

 

I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.  This
is the CSS for my main container div:

 

#container {

width: 760px;

background-color: #00;

color: #00;

margin: 0 auto;

padding: 0;

text-align: left;

background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);

background-repeat: repeat-y;

}

 

The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in Mozilla
Firefox; however it appears in IE 7.  bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide with
the first pixel and the last pixel being black.  All the pixels in between
are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
sides of the 760 px container.  In the latest version of Firefox, I do not
see these two black lines.

 

Could someone please advise.

 

Thanks!



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Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

2007-06-19 Thread John Faulds
We need to see more of your code or a link to your page but I suspect your  
container probably contains floated content and you haven't cleared your  
floats properly.
I have to ask though, if your image is just creating black borders on  
either side of the container, why don't you use borders in CSS instead?


On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:15 +1000, Joyce Evans  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question,  
but

here it is:


I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.   
This

is the CSS for my main container div:


#container {

width: 760px;

background-color: #00;

color: #00;

margin: 0 auto;

padding: 0;

text-align: left;

background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);

background-repeat: repeat-y;

}


The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in Mozilla
Firefox; however it appears in IE 7.  bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide  
with
the first pixel and the last pixel being black.  All the pixels in  
between

are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
sides of the 760 px container.  In the latest version of Firefox, I do  
not

see these two black lines.


Could someone please advise.


Thanks!



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Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

2007-06-19 Thread Nick Gleitzman

Joyce Evans wrote:

I’m new to this group, and I’m not sure if it’s okay to post a 
question, but here it is:

 
I’ve designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home 
page.  This is the CSS for my main container div:

 
#container {
    width: 760px;
    background-color: #00;
    color: #00;
    margin: 0 auto;
    padding: 0;
    text-align: left;
    background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
}
 
The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in 
Mozilla Firefox; however it appears in IE 7.  bg_container.jpg is 760 
px wide with the first pixel and the last pixel being black.  All the 
pixels in between are white, thus creating a thin black border on the 
left and right hand sides of the 760 px container.  In the latest 
version of Firefox, I do not see these two black lines.


Hi, Joyce, and welcome.

Of course it's OK; that's what we're here for!

It's difficult to tell what the problem might be just from your post, 
because you don't say whether your css is in the HTML file or a 
separate css file - in any case, if you can, it's always a good idea to 
post a link to a live page where we can  see your code in action.


A couple of points, though:

First, your #container div has a black background, but you're filling 
it with a white image file - so you'd need too be aware of any problems 
this might create with legibility of the content that sits over the top 
of that background;


Second, is there any reason why you're using a bg img instead of simply 
using left anf right borders on the #container div?


Third, if you do need to use that image as the bg, consider a gif 
instead of the jpeg. It will be a lot smaller in file size, and 
sharper, too, if you knock out all the colours in it except black and 
white...


HTH
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RE: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

2007-06-19 Thread Joyce Evans
Here is the link to the incomplete home page.  It's as far as I have gotten
with the CSS.  The CSS file name is brookgrooves_home.css, and it is an
external style sheet, which you'll be able to download.

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/index.html

Notice that the dark lines appear to the left and the right in IE but not in
Firefox.

This is how the design sample looks prior to my programming.  This is simply
one jpg file:

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/HomePageSample17e_ltGrnTitles.ht
ml

I can't even imagine how I'm going to handle the Topic and Members columns
with CSS, as well as the three columns for Popular Reads with the images of
the books.  It's been painful, but I'm trying not to use tables.

Nonetheless, I'm not using a border because I need to figure out how to get
the background image to appear in Firefox.  I use background images often,
and they usually aren't as simple as a border. 

Thank you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Faulds
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:00 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

We need to see more of your code or a link to your page but I suspect your  
container probably contains floated content and you haven't cleared your  
floats properly.
I have to ask though, if your image is just creating black borders on  
either side of the container, why don't you use borders in CSS instead?

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:15 +1000, Joyce Evans  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question,  
 but
 here it is:


 I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.   
 This
 is the CSS for my main container div:


 #container {

 width: 760px;

 background-color: #00;

 color: #00;

 margin: 0 auto;

 padding: 0;

 text-align: left;

 background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);

 background-repeat: repeat-y;

 }


 The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in Mozilla
 Firefox; however it appears in IE 7.  bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide  
 with
 the first pixel and the last pixel being black.  All the pixels in  
 between
 are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
 sides of the 760 px container.  In the latest version of Firefox, I do  
 not
 see these two black lines.


 Could someone please advise.


 Thanks!



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Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

2007-06-19 Thread John Faulds
It's as I said before. Your layout contains floated content and you  
haven't cleared your floats. Adding overflow: hidden to #container will  
make the borders appear in Firefox but you should do some reading up on  
'clearing floats'.


On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:35:50 +1000, Joyce Evans  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Here is the link to the incomplete home page.  It's as far as I have  
gotten

with the CSS.  The CSS file name is brookgrooves_home.css, and it is an
external style sheet, which you'll be able to download.

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/index.html

Notice that the dark lines appear to the left and the right in IE but  
not in

Firefox.

This is how the design sample looks prior to my programming.  This is  
simply

one jpg file:

http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/HomePageSample17e_ltGrnTitles.ht
ml

I can't even imagine how I'm going to handle the Topic and Members  
columns
with CSS, as well as the three columns for Popular Reads with the images  
of

the books.  It's been painful, but I'm trying not to use tables.

Nonetheless, I'm not using a border because I need to figure out how to  
get
the background image to appear in Firefox.  I use background images  
often,

and they usually aren't as simple as a border.

Thank you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Faulds
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:00 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

We need to see more of your code or a link to your page but I suspect  
your

container probably contains floated content and you haven't cleared your
floats properly.
I have to ask though, if your image is just creating black borders on
either side of the container, why don't you use borders in CSS instead?

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:15 +1000, Joyce Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question,
but
here it is:


I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.
This
is the CSS for my main container div:


#container {

width: 760px;

background-color: #00;

color: #00;

margin: 0 auto;

padding: 0;

text-align: left;

background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);

background-repeat: repeat-y;

}


The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in  
Mozilla

Firefox; however it appears in IE 7.  bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide
with
the first pixel and the last pixel being black.  All the pixels in
between
are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
sides of the 760 px container.  In the latest version of Firefox, I do
not
see these two black lines.


Could someone please advise.


Thanks!



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RE: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

2007-06-19 Thread Joyce Evans
Thank you to all who responded.  I added overflow: hidden; to #container,
as suggested by John Faulds below, and I now see the background image in
Firefox, as well as IE.  

I obviously have much reading/learning to do.

Thank you. 

Joyce 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Faulds
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:56 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

It's as I said before. Your layout contains floated content and you  
haven't cleared your floats. Adding overflow: hidden to #container will  
make the borders appear in Firefox but you should do some reading up on  
'clearing floats'.

On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:35:50 +1000, Joyce Evans  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here is the link to the incomplete home page.  It's as far as I have  
 gotten
 with the CSS.  The CSS file name is brookgrooves_home.css, and it is an
 external style sheet, which you'll be able to download.

 http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/index.html

 Notice that the dark lines appear to the left and the right in IE but  
 not in
 Firefox.

 This is how the design sample looks prior to my programming.  This is  
 simply
 one jpg file:


http://www.nichemktghouston.com/bookgrooves/HomePageSample17e_ltGrnTitles.ht
 ml

 I can't even imagine how I'm going to handle the Topic and Members  
 columns
 with CSS, as well as the three columns for Popular Reads with the images  
 of
 the books.  It's been painful, but I'm trying not to use tables.

 Nonetheless, I'm not using a border because I need to figure out how to  
 get
 the background image to appear in Firefox.  I use background images  
 often,
 and they usually aren't as simple as a border.

 Thank you.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of John Faulds
 Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:00 PM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Container Background Image Does Not Appear in Firefox

 We need to see more of your code or a link to your page but I suspect  
 your
 container probably contains floated content and you haven't cleared your
 floats properly.
 I have to ask though, if your image is just creating black borders on
 either side of the container, why don't you use borders in CSS instead?

 On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:40:15 +1000, Joyce Evans
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm new to this group, and I'm not sure if it's okay to post a question,
 but
 here it is:


 I've designed a website and am now creating the CSS for the home page.
 This
 is the CSS for my main container div:


 #container {

 width: 760px;

 background-color: #00;

 color: #00;

 margin: 0 auto;

 padding: 0;

 text-align: left;

 background-image: url(images/bg_container.jpg);

 background-repeat: repeat-y;

 }


 The problem is that the bg_container.jpg image does not appear in  
 Mozilla
 Firefox; however it appears in IE 7.  bg_container.jpg is 760 px wide
 with
 the first pixel and the last pixel being black.  All the pixels in
 between
 are white, thus creating a thin black border on the left and right hand
 sides of the 760 px container.  In the latest version of Firefox, I do
 not
 see these two black lines.


 Could someone please advise.


 Thanks!



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