While I agree people should check issues elsewhere beforehand as they
should before using any list, tech forum etc for help.
However list guidelines do state
The mail list covers any topic associated with web standards including
Implementing Web Standards - eg: technologies such as HTML, XHTML, CSS,
DOM, UAAG, RDF, XML, JavaScript and EcmaScript
Assistance with aspects of web standards such as site checking, layout
issues etc.
We encourage people to ask for help on the list. One of the primary
goals of this group is to help members move towards building sites that
are standards compliant, so we do not want to stop members posting
questions of this nature to the list - in fact, we encourage it!
So it isn't off base for people learning to implement web standards to
have questions on how to do so. What we should do is follow the
following rule beforehand
1. Set up a sample page that shows just the problem in action.
2. Validate your HTML code
3. Validate your CSS code
4. Test the page on a range of browsers - as many as you can get
access to.
5. Post your problem to the list with the following info:
* a link to the sample url
* a link to the css file if it is separate
* a short, clear explanation of the problem
* a list of browsers and how they render the problem
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Michael Horowitz
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Matt Fellows wrote:
With no offense intended to the list moderators, I feel the usefulness
of this mailing list is diminishing due to an increase in irrelevant
and lazy postings.
The majority of people on this list are genuine web developers, who
care for the future of the Web and the place Web Standards has in it.
But there seems to be a small number of people who think they can
simply post their problems to this list without consulting any other
reference.
Basic CSS problems, PHP syntax and even spam help are just a sample of
some of these questions that can, and should be either found quickly
by a number of popular resources or even a quick search in Google.
Instead, they lazily exploit the goodwill of many in this list who are
kind enough to visit their site and fix their problems.
With the number of these increasing there is no wonder why people are
leaving this list (and publicly doing so).
Out on a limb here - does anybody else feel the same? If so, do you
have a suggestion as to how we can better the quality of the list?
Matt
On 2/15/08, *John Hancock* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please can this be closed? It's far off any standards related topic.
Possibly the only thing I can see as a relevant part of the 'Web
2.0 movement' is the abstraction of the presentational information
from data on a page, which isn't being discussed here.
If posting an off-topic message, please at least mark it as such
so the rest of us can hit the delete button without checking it
first for relevant information!
Kind regards,
John Hancock
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<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] *On Behalf Of *Joe Ortenzi
*Sent:* Friday, 15 February 2008 6:32 PM
*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org <mailto:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] hello
That's art, Kat, design is different.
And design is a significant part of the web.
On Feb 12 2008, at 22:52, Katrina wrote:
kevin mcmonagle wrote:
yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its
also a genre.
That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web
itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as
Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?
Kat
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