Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
Ahh wow. I have fired up DEER PARK Alpha1 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/deerpark/) And the rounding error is fixed in it :D Cheers everyone! Chris Stratford wrote: Hey List, I know this bug has been discussed before - but I can't find any solutions. Wondering if there have been any recent fixes or what not. This is how the menu should look (this was from IE, even IE gets it right) http://img78.echo.cx/img78/1969/menubug25aq.jpg This is FireFox's render: http://img78.echo.cx/img78/6669/menubug16xy.jpg AS you can see, beneath CHAT ROOMS and BROWSE A-Z there is a signifcant gap... White space... Something! :S The website is: www.simplyrewarding.com.au Thanks! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
Hi Chris, Try border-collapse : collapse in your ul declaration. Bob Chris Stratford wrote: Hey List, I know this bug has been discussed before - but I can't find any solutions. Wondering if there have been any recent fixes or what not. This is how the menu should look (this was from IE, even IE gets it right) http://img78.echo.cx/img78/1969/menubug25aq.jpg This is FireFox's render: http://img78.echo.cx/img78/6669/menubug16xy.jpg AS you can see, beneath CHAT ROOMS and BROWSE A-Z there is a signifcant gap... White space... Something! :S The website is: www.simplyrewarding.com.au Thanks! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
On 19 Jun 2005, at 6:10 pm, designer wrote:
Hi Chris,
Try border-collapse : collapse in your ul declaration.
Bob
Applies only to tables, or block level elements set to {display:table}
Philippe
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Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
The rounding area can usually be fixed by adjusting your font-size and/or line height, on the parent element and the cascade through your list elements. The solution really is just a matter of tweaking each until it is eliminated -- use the computed style section the FF dom inspector and try to get everything resolving to whole pixels. regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
On 20 Jun 2005, at 9:04 AM, Terrence Wood wrote: The rounding area That of course is rounding error. now where is my coffee? T. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
Any chance of having a look at the code and the css.? Jackie - Original Message - From: Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes? Hey List, I know this bug has been discussed before - but I can't find any solutions. Wondering if there have been any recent fixes or what not. This is how the menu should look (this was from IE, even IE gets it right) http://img78.echo.cx/img78/1969/menubug25aq.jpg This is FireFox's render: http://img78.echo.cx/img78/6669/menubug16xy.jpg AS you can see, beneath CHAT ROOMS and BROWSE A-Z there is a signifcant gap... White space... Something! :S The website is: www.simplyrewarding.com.au Thanks! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
Hey List, I know this bug has been discussed before - but I can't find any solutions. Wondering if there have been any recent fixes or what not. This is how the menu should look (this was from IE, even IE gets it right) http://img78.echo.cx/img78/1969/menubug25aq.jpg This is FireFox's render: http://img78.echo.cx/img78/6669/menubug16xy.jpg AS you can see, beneath CHAT ROOMS and BROWSE A-Z there is a signifcant gap... White space... Something! :S The website is: www.simplyrewarding.com.au Thanks! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
On 19 Jun 2005, at 1:00 pm, Chris Stratford wrote: AS you can see, beneath CHAT ROOMS and BROWSE A-Z there is a signifcant gap... White space... Something! :S The website is: www.simplyrewarding.com.au nothing with white-space, all with TWIPS. http://dev.l-c-n.com/Gecko/moz_spacing.php http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/geckogaps.html Note that I don't see any problem running Firefox 1.0+ latest nightly build, at any zooming factor. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
Ahh Philippe, Thanks for those links - and I see that you are the man who came up with the diagnosis for this problem. I still see the errors - should I use Absolute values (px, not em) to define my margin/padding on those lists? Would that fix the problem? Thanks! - Chris Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On 19 Jun 2005, at 1:00 pm, Chris Stratford wrote: AS you can see, beneath CHAT ROOMS and BROWSE A-Z there is a signifcant gap... White space... Something! :S The website is: www.simplyrewarding.com.au nothing with white-space, all with TWIPS. http://dev.l-c-n.com/Gecko/moz_spacing.php http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/geckogaps.html Note that I don't see any problem running Firefox 1.0+ latest nightly build, at any zooming factor. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
On 19 Jun 2005, at 2:00 pm, Chris Stratford wrote: I still see the errors - should I use Absolute values (px, not em) to define my margin/padding on those lists? Would that fix the problem? I guess using px for padding/margin/border will improve the situation, as does using line-height:normal on the li (?, not sure in your case, could be on the a). You might still see some rounding errors, due to the font-size, if the computed value is not a round number. Those two fixes will minimise the problem however. Using a background-image to simulate your border, instead of using the border-property, is another fix that has been mentioned on CSS-D once. As I said, I don't see the problem at all on my nightly build at various zoom levels. Lots of work has gone in some of those rendering issues (rounding errors). Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FF Bug - Any Fixes?
Chris Stratford schrieb: ... I still see the errors - should I use Absolute values (px, not em) to define my margin/padding on those lists? Would that fix the problem? It's hard to test the rounding error in all OS, text zoom level, and different dpi-settings. Yes, px-fixed lenghts and offsets might fix the em-based rounding problem of overlaps and gaps in FF = 1.04 Andy Budd once posted this workaround to css-d http://www.message.uk.com/test/nav/ maybe worth a try. Ingo ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
