Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
Although the base site is XHTML it uses HTML5 in the extra windows. (which you can still manipulate BTW) As for wastefulness, it's effectively a music video, so think who their audience is before answering that for yourself. The HTML 5 issue is the creation of the video feed in near real-time from a google maps / streetview reference and play that with several other vids simultaneously using HTML5 (as opposed to the current common Flash platform) code. Also, the collision and mouse detection without Flash is also of interest. It is an example of what can be expected from HTML 5 in the near future. For cultural sites, there's a good reason to put HTML 5 on the table. Also for example, kiosk experiences, where you get to control the platform. or for mobile apps, where HTML5 can be a lighter drain on the processor. So, as with most questions, the wastefulness can be measured by assessing the audience, purpose, goals, platform and strategy first. PS: it works in Safari as well. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jason Arnold jaon.arn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I found an edgy “Chrome Only”, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? If it is, how long is your ETA of when it will be the normal? Well, since that page is actually a doctype of XHTML 1.0 Transitional (not HTML5, although one could say it's HTML5 because it uses some HTML5 tags but it's clearly XHTML 1.0) and that it doesn't work I'd say it's wasteful. However, is it wasteful to create a working site in HTML5, depends on your audience and the type of content you need to implement. If it's a site like this one that suppose to be all rich interactive (aka using the canvas tag) and has to work in IE6/7/8 then it might be wasteful since you'd want to also create a flash version to replace the canvas tag for those versions of browsers that don't support the canvas tag yet. However, for all other tags in HTML5 you would be fine building a site with them today and not be wasteful. -- Jason Arnold http://www.jasonarnold.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private Joseph Ortenzi j...@joiz.com j...@wheelyweb.com +61 (0)434 047 804 http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb http://www.linkedin.com/in/jortenzi Skype/Wave:wheelyweb *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
Hi Joe Great response - thanks for the informative advice. There seems to be more sites being created in HTML5 ... any other recommended examples of HTML5 sites? On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Joseph Ortenzi j...@joiz.com wrote: Although the base site is XHTML it uses HTML5 in the extra windows. (which you can still manipulate BTW) As for wastefulness, it's effectively a music video, so think who their audience is before answering that for yourself. The HTML 5 issue is the creation of the video feed in near real-time from a google maps / streetview reference and play that with several other vids simultaneously using HTML5 (as opposed to the current common Flash platform) code. Also, the collision and mouse detection without Flash is also of interest. It is an example of what can be expected from HTML 5 in the near future. For cultural sites, there's a good reason to put HTML 5 on the table. Also for example, kiosk experiences, where you get to control the platform. or for mobile apps, where HTML5 can be a lighter drain on the processor. So, as with most questions, the wastefulness can be measured by assessing the audience, purpose, goals, platform and strategy first. PS: it works in Safari as well. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Jason Arnold jaon.arn...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I found an edgy “Chrome Only”, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? If it is, how long is your ETA of when it will be the normal? Well, since that page is actually a doctype of XHTML 1.0 Transitional (not HTML5, although one could say it's HTML5 because it uses some HTML5 tags but it's clearly XHTML 1.0) and that it doesn't work I'd say it's wasteful. However, is it wasteful to create a working site in HTML5, depends on your audience and the type of content you need to implement. If it's a site like this one that suppose to be all rich interactive (aka using the canvas tag) and has to work in IE6/7/8 then it might be wasteful since you'd want to also create a flash version to replace the canvas tag for those versions of browsers that don't support the canvas tag yet. However, for all other tags in HTML5 you would be fine building a site with them today and not be wasteful. -- Jason Arnold http://www.jasonarnold.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private Joseph Ortenzi j...@joiz.com j...@wheelyweb.com +61 (0)434 047 804 http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb http://www.linkedin.com/in/jortenzi Skype/Wave:wheelyweb *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
On 9/2/10 10:25 PM, Mick Doherty wrote: There seems to be more sites being created in HTML5 ... any other recommended examples of HTML5 sites? http://html5gallery.com/ ~d -- :: desktop and mobile :: http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
Hi, I found an edgy Chrome Only, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? If it is, how long is your ETA of when it will be the normal? Regards, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
Has anyone got this to work? I tried several times yesterday and it just stuck at 44%. Also, what do you mean by wasteful? Dan Freeman Webmaster ERP Administrator 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) http://www.lexi.com/ www.lexi.com From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Erickson, Kevin (DOE) Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:47 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome Hi, I found an edgy Chrome Only, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? If it is, how long is your ETA of when it will be the normal? Regards, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** LEXI-COMP CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling 330-650-6506. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
Has anyone got this to work? I tried several times yesterday and it just stuck at 44%. Worked for me (chrome 5.0.375.127 on a mac) I found an edgy “Chrome Only”, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? I don't think its wasteful at all. Thanks for sharing. Tjd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
Yes, let me clarify that. I am asking, if this is too far in to HTML5, is the time spent developing this site going to be, in large part, a waste of time in your opinion? It seems that is might be out-dated by the time the rest of the browsers catch up. Also, it came up fine for me running XP with the latest Chrome browser. Kevin From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Dan Freeman Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:20 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome Has anyone got this to work? I tried several times yesterday and it just stuck at 44%. Also, what do you mean by wasteful? Dan Freeman Webmaster ERP Administrator 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) www.lexi.com http://www.lexi.com/ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Erickson, Kevin (DOE) Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 9:47 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome Hi, I found an edgy Chrome Only, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? If it is, how long is your ETA of when it will be the normal? Regards, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** LEXI-COMP CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling 330-650-6506. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
I got it to work. Various pop ups made me think of JS pranks that people played on each other at Uni in 1997 and earlier, where one sends a mate a pop up page to a porn site that cannot be closed in the middle of a computer science IT lab. :-D Ah how I miss those days! ;-) On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Tim Duffy timothy...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone got this to work? I tried several times yesterday and it just stuck at 44%. Worked for me (chrome 5.0.375.127 on a mac) I found an edgy “Chrome Only”, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? I don't think its wasteful at all. Thanks for sharing. Tjd *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 with Chrome
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I found an edgy “Chrome Only”, HTML5 development here, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/, called The Wilderness Down and am wondering if this wasteful, at this point in time, to develop an HTML5 site like http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/? If it is, how long is your ETA of when it will be the normal? Well, since that page is actually a doctype of XHTML 1.0 Transitional (not HTML5, although one could say it's HTML5 because it uses some HTML5 tags but it's clearly XHTML 1.0) and that it doesn't work I'd say it's wasteful. However, is it wasteful to create a working site in HTML5, depends on your audience and the type of content you need to implement. If it's a site like this one that suppose to be all rich interactive (aka using the canvas tag) and has to work in IE6/7/8 then it might be wasteful since you'd want to also create a flash version to replace the canvas tag for those versions of browsers that don't support the canvas tag yet. However, for all other tags in HTML5 you would be fine building a site with them today and not be wasteful. -- Jason Arnold http://www.jasonarnold.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
