RE: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi Emily,

> Thank you for your reply as well. I will check into
http://webdesign-L.com/. 

Before you post to that list, make sure to check this page:
http://webdesign-l.com/policies/ and obey the *rules*

Regarding how-to keep navigation state, you could try this:

http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/navigation_links_and_current_location.asp


--
Regards,
Thierry
@thierrykoblentz
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RE: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread E W
 
Hello Stephen,

Thank you very much for the code. :-)

Smiles,
Emily

Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:36:59 +0100
From: ste.ham...@sunraymedia.co.uk
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed



  



Message body
  
  
Hi Emily,



Create your links as in an unordered list as below.  Style the
elements using css.  To show which page a user is on, simply create
a class and apply the class to the relevant anchor element; like
below...







   Home

Products  

Gallery

Payment Methods

About
Us

Contact Us

   





#nav a.here {

  color: #000;

  }





Hope this is clear for you...



regards

Stephen Hamill

On 29/03/2011 17:20, E W wrote:

  
  Dear John Unsworth,

  

  Your kindness and humorous reference to "collectively having
  kittens" brightened my otherwise challenging day. 

  

  I agree with you 100% this site needs a complete CSS upgrade
  however, for reasons to lengthy to explain here, it's been
  insisted that I only change the look and feel of the site with
  minor functionality changes but not the tables structure of the
  site. 

  

  I am in the process of learning CSS in preparation for the
  glorious day I am given the go ahead to upgrade the site. 

  

  Since my previous email, I have found this website:
  http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/active-state-in-css-navigations/
  which seems to have a solution for the navigation I will try to
  implement.

  

  I appreciate the book references you supplied which I will add to
  my learning materials.

  

  Thank you for your reply and help with my challenge. 

  

  Smiles,

  Emily

  

  

  

   

  

  > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:39:46 +1100

  > Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

  > From: john.unswo...@gmail.com

  > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

  > 

  > Hi Emily,

  > 

  > Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm
  using

  > Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur,
  whether I use

  > the back button or click Home again. So this might be the
  reason your

  > not getting the expected effect.

  > 

  > Secondly, the standards group I would imagine are
  collectively having

  > kittens seeing all that table based layout rendered by
  Dreamweaver.

  > Whilst there is often some debate, on the whole most people
  employ a

  > list for navigation rather than a table, however I'm assuming
  the

  > whole page is a table layout and thus whilst I would
  encourage you to

  > reconsider, I'm not going to go into an entire rewrite. I
  would then

  > suggest to you it's time to learn some CSS.

  > 

  > Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), added
  to which

  > all your presentation information, such as width and height
  are inline

  > to boot. What you want to strive for is plain simple HTML,
  with

  > externally linked CSS and JS files. This approach is
  sometimes

  > referred to as 'three layers'. That being Content (HTML),
  Presentation

  > (CSS) and finally Behaviours (Javascript).

  > 

  > Presuming this is not just a practice piece of work and the
  error your

  > getting is just within your browser, I don't think there is a
  simple

  > bit of 'code' that will fix this. Moving forward I can only
  suggest

  > you change your methods in line with the sentiments of the
  standards

  > group.

  > 

  > Personally if your starting out I can't recommend Ian Lloyd's
  'Build

  > your website the right way, using HTML and CSS' from
  Sitepoint, and

  > 'HTML Dog, The best-practice guide to XHTML & CSS' by
  Patrick

  > Griffiths enough.

  > 

  > All the best,

  > John Unsworth

  > 

  > 

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RE: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread E W
 
Thank you Russ!

> Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed
> From: r...@maxdesign.com.au
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 07:14:00 +1100
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> 
> Our good friend Xiong is no longer with us (on the mailing list at least)
> As you were...
> Russ
> 
> 
> On 30/03/2011, at 3:47 AM, huangmei mei wrote:
> 
> > hello , my good friend , our is china wholesale brand shoes . pls chack our 
> > site in fo : www.west-trading.com
> >  
> > thanks
> > xiong
> >  
> > 
> >  
> 
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Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread Russ Weakley
Our good friend Xiong is no longer with us (on the mailing list at least)
As you were...
Russ


On 30/03/2011, at 3:47 AM, huangmei mei wrote:

> hello , my good friend , our is china wholesale brand shoes . pls chack our 
> site in fo : www.west-trading.com
>  
> thanks
> xiong
>  
> 
>  


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RE: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread huangmei mei

hello , my good friend , our is china wholesale brand shoes . pls chack our 
site in fo : www.west-trading.com
 
thanks
xiong
 

 


Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:36:59 +0100
From: ste.ham...@sunraymedia.co.uk
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed


Hi Emily,

Create your links as in an unordered list as below.  Style the elements using 
css.  To show which page a user is on, simply create a class and apply the 
class to the relevant anchor element; like below...



   Home
Products
  
Gallery
Payment 
Methods
About Us
Contact Us
   


#nav a.here {
color: #000;
}


Hope this is clear for you...

regards
Stephen Hamill
On 29/03/2011 17:20, E W wrote: 


Dear John Unsworth,

Your kindness and humorous reference to "collectively having kittens" 
brightened my otherwise challenging day. 

I agree with you 100% this site needs a complete CSS upgrade however, for 
reasons to lengthy to explain here, it's been insisted that I only change the 
look and feel of the site with minor functionality changes but not the tables 
structure of the site. 

I am in the process of learning CSS in preparation for the glorious day I am 
given the go ahead to upgrade the site. 

Since my previous email, I have found this website: 
http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/active-state-in-css-navigations/ which 
seems to have a solution for the navigation I will try to implement.

I appreciate the book references you supplied which I will add to my learning 
materials.

Thank you for your reply and help with my challenge. 

Smiles,
Emily



 

> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:39:46 +1100
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed
> From: john.unswo...@gmail.com
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> 
> Hi Emily,
> 
> Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm using
> Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur, whether I use
> the back button or click Home again. So this might be the reason your
> not getting the expected effect.
> 
> Secondly, the standards group I would imagine are collectively having
> kittens seeing all that table based layout rendered by Dreamweaver.
> Whilst there is often some debate, on the whole most people employ a
> list for navigation rather than a table, however I'm assuming the
> whole page is a table layout and thus whilst I would encourage you to
> reconsider, I'm not going to go into an entire rewrite. I would then
> suggest to you it's time to learn some CSS.
> 
> Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), added to which
> all your presentation information, such as width and height are inline
> to boot. What you want to strive for is plain simple HTML, with
> externally linked CSS and JS files. This approach is sometimes
> referred to as 'three layers'. That being Content (HTML), Presentation
> (CSS) and finally Behaviours (Javascript).
> 
> Presuming this is not just a practice piece of work and the error your
> getting is just within your browser, I don't think there is a simple
> bit of 'code' that will fix this. Moving forward I can only suggest
> you change your methods in line with the sentiments of the standards
> group.
> 
> Personally if your starting out I can't recommend Ian Lloyd's 'Build
> your website the right way, using HTML and CSS' from Sitepoint, and
> 'HTML Dog, The best-practice guide to XHTML & CSS' by Patrick
> Griffiths enough.
> 
> All the best,
> John Unsworth
> 
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Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread Sunray Media

Hi Emily,

Create your links as in an unordered list as below.  Style the elements 
using css.  To show which page a user is on, simply create a class and 
apply the class to the relevant anchor element; like below...




Home
Products
Gallery
Payment Methods
About Us
Contact Us



#nav a.here {
color: #000;
}


Hope this is clear for you...

regards
Stephen Hamill
On 29/03/2011 17:20, E W wrote:

Dear John Unsworth,

Your kindness and humorous reference to "collectively having kittens" 
brightened my otherwise challenging day.


I agree with you 100% this site needs a complete CSS upgrade however, 
for reasons to lengthy to explain here, it's been insisted that I only 
change the look and feel of the site with minor functionality changes 
but not the tables structure of the site.


I am in the process of learning CSS in preparation for the glorious 
day I am given the go ahead to upgrade the site.


Since my previous email, I have found this website: 
http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/active-state-in-css-navigations/ 
which seems to have a solution for the navigation I will try to implement.


I appreciate the book references you supplied which I will add to my 
learning materials.


Thank you for your reply and help with my challenge.

Smiles,
Emily





> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:39:46 +1100
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed
> From: john.unswo...@gmail.com
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
>
> Hi Emily,
>
> Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm using
> Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur, whether I use
> the back button or click Home again. So this might be the reason your
> not getting the expected effect.
>
> Secondly, the standards group I would imagine are collectively having
> kittens seeing all that table based layout rendered by Dreamweaver.
> Whilst there is often some debate, on the whole most people employ a
> list for navigation rather than a table, however I'm assuming the
> whole page is a table layout and thus whilst I would encourage you to
> reconsider, I'm not going to go into an entire rewrite. I would then
> suggest to you it's time to learn some CSS.
>
> Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), added to which
> all your presentation information, such as width and height are inline
> to boot. What you want to strive for is plain simple HTML, with
> externally linked CSS and JS files. This approach is sometimes
> referred to as 'three layers'. That being Content (HTML), Presentation
> (CSS) and finally Behaviours (Javascript).
>
> Presuming this is not just a practice piece of work and the error your
> getting is just within your browser, I don't think there is a simple
> bit of 'code' that will fix this. Moving forward I can only suggest
> you change your methods in line with the sentiments of the standards
> group.
>
> Personally if your starting out I can't recommend Ian Lloyd's 'Build
> your website the right way, using HTML and CSS' from Sitepoint, and
> 'HTML Dog, The best-practice guide to XHTML & CSS' by Patrick
> Griffiths enough.
>
> All the best,
> John Unsworth
>
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RE: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread E W
 
Hello Lesley,

Thank you for your reply as well. I will check into http://webdesign-L.com/. 

Smiles,
Emily

> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:08:00 +0100
> From: ubu...@webaflame.co.uk
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed
> 
> 
> 
> On 29/03/11 05:39, John Unsworth wrote:
> > Hi Emily,
> >
> > Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm using
> > Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur, whether I use
> > the back button or click Home again. So this might be the reason your
> > not getting the expected effect.
> >
> >[snipped]
> >
> > Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), ...
> >
> > All the best,
> > John Unsworth
> >
> >
> 
> I use Firefox on Linux, with javascript disabled by default.  That shows 
> a yellow background for the current page, and no hover behaviour - fine. 
>   If I enable javascript, the yellow background appears on hover, and 
> disappears from the current page as long as I continue the hover, which 
> seems to be the expected behaviour.  If I use the mouse to visit another 
> page, everything behaves as expected, but if I use the browser back 
> button, I get the effect Emily describes - the yellow background stays 
> on the previous link and only changes when the menu is hovered over.
> 
> The same problem occurs in Epiphany (Webkit-based) but not in Chromium.
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Dreamweaver or javascript to 
> help here, but I'm posting this in the hope that it might assist someone 
> who does.
> 
> Emily - you might also want to try the webdesign-l list 
> http://webdesign-L.com/ for help.  It deals with all aspects of Web 
> design, not just standards-related.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Lesley
> 
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RE: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread E W
 
Hello Jiten,

I agree with John and you too! Please see my reply to John. 

Thank you for your reply. :-)

Smiles, 
Emily

Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:30:16 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed
From: ji...@automateonweb.com
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
CC: john.unswo...@gmail.com

Agree with John. Thanks to John for such as wonderful and crisp reply.I too 
have implemented menus always as 
1. Unordered list(html element ul ) 
2. Each item as list items (li) and anchors ( a ) 3. Css styled them and added 
behavior using jquery and modifying the css dynamically on user interaction..



Emily there are a lot of free menu examples/samples with source on  web and you 
can use them to build your menus. However I saw your site, and it shows the 
intended behavior on mouseovers and clicks. I guess you solved the problem. :) 

I am using chrome.




On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:09 AM, John Unsworth  wrote:


Hi Emily,



Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm using

Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur, whether I use

the back button or click Home again. So this might be the reason your

not getting the expected effect.



Secondly, the standards group I would imagine are collectively having

kittens seeing all that table based layout rendered by Dreamweaver.

Whilst there is often some debate, on the whole most people employ a

list for navigation rather than a table, however I'm assuming the

whole page is a table layout and thus whilst I would encourage you to

reconsider, I'm not going to go into an entire rewrite. I would then

suggest to you it's time to learn some CSS.



Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), added to which

all your presentation information, such as width and height are inline

to boot. What you want to strive for is plain simple HTML, with

externally linked CSS and JS files. This approach is sometimes

referred to as 'three layers'. That being Content (HTML), Presentation

(CSS) and finally Behaviours (Javascript).



Presuming this is not just a practice piece of work and the error your

getting is just within your browser, I don't think there is a simple

bit of 'code' that will fix this. Moving forward I can only suggest

you change your methods in line with the sentiments of the standards

group.



Personally if your starting out I can't recommend Ian Lloyd's 'Build

your website the right way, using HTML and CSS' from Sitepoint, and

'HTML Dog, The best-practice guide to XHTML & CSS' by Patrick

Griffiths enough.



All the best,

John Unsworth





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RE: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread E W
 
Dear John Unsworth,

Your kindness and humorous reference to "collectively having kittens" 
brightened my otherwise challenging day. 

I agree with you 100% this site needs a complete CSS upgrade however, for 
reasons to lengthy to explain here, it's been insisted that I only change the 
look and feel of the site with minor functionality changes but not the tables 
structure of the site. 

I am in the process of learning CSS in preparation for the glorious day I am 
given the go ahead to upgrade the site. 

Since my previous email, I have found this website: 
http://www.sohtanaka.com/web-design/active-state-in-css-navigations/ which 
seems to have a solution for the navigation I will try to implement.

I appreciate the book references you supplied which I will add to my learning 
materials.


Thank you for your reply and help with my challenge. 

Smiles,
Emily



 

> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:39:46 +1100
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed
> From: john.unswo...@gmail.com
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> 
> Hi Emily,
> 
> Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm using
> Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur, whether I use
> the back button or click Home again. So this might be the reason your
> not getting the expected effect.
> 
> Secondly, the standards group I would imagine are collectively having
> kittens seeing all that table based layout rendered by Dreamweaver.
> Whilst there is often some debate, on the whole most people employ a
> list for navigation rather than a table, however I'm assuming the
> whole page is a table layout and thus whilst I would encourage you to
> reconsider, I'm not going to go into an entire rewrite. I would then
> suggest to you it's time to learn some CSS.
> 
> Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), added to which
> all your presentation information, such as width and height are inline
> to boot. What you want to strive for is plain simple HTML, with
> externally linked CSS and JS files. This approach is sometimes
> referred to as 'three layers'. That being Content (HTML), Presentation
> (CSS) and finally Behaviours (Javascript).
> 
> Presuming this is not just a practice piece of work and the error your
> getting is just within your browser, I don't think there is a simple
> bit of 'code' that will fix this. Moving forward I can only suggest
> you change your methods in line with the sentiments of the standards
> group.
> 
> Personally if your starting out I can't recommend Ian Lloyd's 'Build
> your website the right way, using HTML and CSS' from Sitepoint, and
> 'HTML Dog, The best-practice guide to XHTML & CSS' by Patrick
> Griffiths enough.
> 
> All the best,
> John Unsworth
> 
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Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread Lesley Lutomski



On 29/03/11 05:39, John Unsworth wrote:

Hi Emily,

Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm using
Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur, whether I use
the back button or click Home again. So this might be the reason your
not getting the expected effect.

[snipped]

Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), ...

All the best,
John Unsworth




I use Firefox on Linux, with javascript disabled by default.  That shows 
a yellow background for the current page, and no hover behaviour - fine. 
 If I enable javascript, the yellow background appears on hover, and 
disappears from the current page as long as I continue the hover, which 
seems to be the expected behaviour.  If I use the mouse to visit another 
page, everything behaves as expected, but if I use the browser back 
button, I get the effect Emily describes - the yellow background stays 
on the previous link and only changes when the menu is hovered over.


The same problem occurs in Epiphany (Webkit-based) but not in Chromium.

Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Dreamweaver or javascript to 
help here, but I'm posting this in the hope that it might assist someone 
who does.


Emily - you might also want to try the webdesign-l list 
http://webdesign-L.com/ for help.  It deals with all aspects of Web 
design, not just standards-related.


HTH

Lesley

--
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Fwd: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-29 Thread Jiten Singh
Agree with John. Thanks to John for such as wonderful and crisp reply.
I too have implemented menus always as
1. Unordered list(html element ul )
2. Each item as list items (li) and anchors ( a )
3. Css styled them
and added behavior using jquery and modifying the css dynamically on user
interaction..


Emily there are a lot of free menu examples/samples with source on  web and
you can use them to build your menus. However I saw your site, and it shows
the intended behavior on mouseovers and clicks. I guess you solved the
problem. :)
I am using chrome.



On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:09 AM, John Unsworth wrote:

> Hi Emily,
>
> Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm using
> Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur, whether I use
> the back button or click Home again. So this might be the reason your
> not getting the expected effect.
>
> Secondly, the standards group I would imagine are collectively having
> kittens seeing all that table based layout rendered by Dreamweaver.
> Whilst there is often some debate, on the whole most people employ a
> list for navigation rather than a table, however I'm assuming the
> whole page is a table layout and thus whilst I would encourage you to
> reconsider, I'm not going to go into an entire rewrite. I would then
> suggest to you it's time to learn some CSS.
>
> Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), added to which
> all your presentation information, such as width and height are inline
> to boot. What you want to strive for is plain simple HTML, with
> externally linked CSS and JS files. This approach is sometimes
> referred to as 'three layers'. That being Content (HTML), Presentation
> (CSS) and finally Behaviours (Javascript).
>
> Presuming this is not just a practice piece of work and the error your
> getting is just within your browser, I don't think there is a simple
> bit of 'code' that will fix this. Moving forward I can only suggest
> you change your methods in line with the sentiments of the standards
> group.
>
> Personally if your starting out I can't recommend Ian Lloyd's 'Build
> your website the right way, using HTML and CSS' from Sitepoint, and
> 'HTML Dog, The best-practice guide to XHTML & CSS' by Patrick
> Griffiths enough.
>
> All the best,
> John Unsworth
>
>
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Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-28 Thread John Unsworth
Hi Emily,

Firstly the problem you describe might be your browser. I'm using
Safari on a Mac and the desired effect appears to occur, whether I use
the back button or click Home again. So this might be the reason your
not getting the expected effect.

Secondly, the standards group I would imagine are collectively having
kittens seeing all that table based layout rendered by Dreamweaver.
Whilst there is often some debate, on the whole most people employ a
list for navigation rather than a table, however I'm assuming the
whole page is a table layout and thus whilst I would encourage you to
reconsider, I'm not going to go into an entire rewrite. I would then
suggest to you it's time to learn some CSS.

Your Dreamweaver behaviours are embedded Javascript(s), added to which
all your presentation information, such as width and height are inline
to boot. What you want to strive for is plain simple HTML, with
externally linked CSS and JS files. This approach is sometimes
referred to as 'three layers'. That being Content (HTML), Presentation
(CSS) and finally Behaviours (Javascript).

Presuming this is not just a practice piece of work and the error your
getting is just within your browser, I don't think there is a simple
bit of 'code' that will fix this. Moving forward I can only suggest
you change your methods in line with the sentiments of the standards
group.

Personally if your starting out I can't recommend Ian Lloyd's 'Build
your website the right way, using HTML and CSS' from Sitepoint, and
'HTML Dog, The best-practice guide to XHTML & CSS' by Patrick
Griffiths enough.

All the best,
John Unsworth


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[WSG] Horizontal Menu Bar Help Needed

2011-03-28 Thread E W
 
Hello Friends,

Please help me...

I'm new to website building and I need help with a horizontal menu bar I've 
built. I only know a little bit of html so I used Dreamweaver CS5 behaviors to 
create the following code for the menu bar I'm having a problem with. You can 
view the navigation menu on this page: http://new.radcal.com/index.html

I need to have the menu button of the page (for example the index page) I'm on 
to stay yellow while on the page. The problem I'm having is when I switch from 
the index page to any other menu button, for example, the about button, the 
mouseover state of the about button stays on (yellow) when I hit the back 
button to go back to the index page. Now both the index button and the about 
(yellow) buttons are on. I only want the current pages button (the index page) 
I am on to stay yellow (mouseover state on) but not the button from the 
previous page (about page) too. 

Can someone please provide the code so I can fix this? Thank you in advance for 
your help. Smiles, Emily





   
   


  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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