Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey
Keryx Web skrev: Quick question. I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled with an e - as it should be ;-) I have researched this myself now and will set all confusion to rest! Grey is a valid CSS color name defined in CSS 3, not CSS 2.1. As has been stated previously its equivalent RGB-value is strictly defined by the W3C, and color keywords are not deprecated. For pedagogic reasons I use them a lot, and also when wireframing. MSIE = 7 does only recognize gray. MSIE 8 beta recognizes grey used as a value for CSS color, border, outline and background. It also recognizes the value set - as you should not! - with the bgcolor attribute. It does all of this regardless of its in quirks mode, IE 7 sub-standards mode or we are trying for the real deal standards mode! (So much for UA-compatible meta switches!) At least one webmaster will be surprised: http://www.bebt.com/ Today in IE it's a *green* box - which is an exceptionally buggy implementation! All this I know thanks to Philip on the WHATWG IRC channel: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20080317 (look at the discussion around 23:00) Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] IE 8 and grey
Quick question. I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled with an e - as it should be ;-) Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey
Are you talking from a css point of view? I would advocate not using words - what happens if a future browser decides that grey should be #6; where previously it was #3; (just examples). Your design is suddenly not going to look as you intended. My 2c. Adam On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question. I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled with an e - as it should be ;-) Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- - http://myfitness.ning.com A community of people that care about their health and fitness Free fitness videos, recipes, blogs, photos etc. -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey
Adam Martin wrote: Are you talking from a css point of view? I would advocate not using words - what happens if a future browser decides that grey should be #6; where previously it was #3; (just examples). Your design is suddenly not going to look as you intended. You mean, if a browser maker decides not to support standards?? Who would do such a thing? I can't even imagine it :-) http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#idx-color http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#value-def-color -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey
Because they are defined by w3c what they should map to. http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#color-units - Original Message - From: Adam Martin To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey Are you talking from a css point of view? I would advocate not using words - what happens if a future browser decides that grey should be #6; where previously it was #3; (just examples). Your design is suddenly not going to look as you intended. My 2c. Adam On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question. I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled with an e - as it should be ;-) Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- - http://myfitness.ning.com A community of people that care about their health and fitness Free fitness videos, recipes, blogs, photos etc. -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey
Keryx Web wrote: Quick question. I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled with an e - as it should be ;-) Lars Gunther Probably not. grey isn't a css colour. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey
CSS is a US-spec language. If we suddenly start seeing 'colour: #123456;' then I'll be delighted - but I don't think the CSS authors are so interested in global standards ;) On 18/03/2008, at 1:04 PM, Chris Broadfoot wrote: Keryx Web wrote: Quick question. I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled with an e - as it should be ;-) Lars Gunther Probably not. grey isn't a css colour. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** best wishes, John Hancock Identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: +61 2 8012 2967 f: +61 2 9799 6135 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***