Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey

2008-03-18 Thread Keryx Web

Keryx Web skrev:

Quick question.

I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled 
with an e - as it should be ;-)


I have researched this myself now and will set all confusion to rest!

Grey is a valid CSS color name defined in CSS 3, not CSS 2.1.

As has been stated previously its equivalent RGB-value is strictly 
defined by the W3C, and color keywords are not deprecated. For pedagogic 
reasons I use them a lot, and also when wireframing.


MSIE = 7 does only recognize gray. MSIE 8 beta recognizes grey used 
as a value for CSS color, border, outline and background. It also 
recognizes the value set - as you should not! - with the bgcolor 
attribute. It does all of this regardless of its in quirks mode, IE 7 
sub-standards mode or we are trying for the real deal standards mode! 
(So much for UA-compatible meta switches!)


At least one webmaster will be surprised: http://www.bebt.com/ Today in 
IE it's a *green* box - which is an exceptionally buggy implementation!


All this I know thanks to Philip on the WHATWG IRC channel:
http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20080317 (look at the discussion 
around 23:00)



Lars Gunther


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[WSG] IE 8 and grey

2008-03-17 Thread Keryx Web

Quick question.

I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled 
with an e - as it should be ;-)



Lars Gunther


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Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey

2008-03-17 Thread Adam Martin
Are you talking from a css point of view? I would advocate not using words
- what happens if a future browser decides that grey should be #6;
where previously it was #3; (just examples). Your design is suddenly not
going to look as you intended.

My 2c.
Adam

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Quick question.

 I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled
 with an e - as it should be ;-)


 Lars Gunther


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Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey

2008-03-17 Thread Hassan Schroeder

Adam Martin wrote:
Are you talking from a css point of view? I would advocate not using 
words - what happens if a future browser decides that grey should be 
#6; where previously it was #3; (just examples). Your design is 
suddenly not going to look as you intended.


You mean, if a browser maker decides not to support standards?? Who
would do such a thing? I can't even imagine it   :-)

  http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/types.html#idx-color
  http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#value-def-color

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Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey

2008-03-17 Thread Thomas Thomassen
Because they are defined by w3c what they should map to. 
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#color-units

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  Are you talking from a css point of view? I would advocate not using words 
- what happens if a future browser decides that grey should be #6; where 
previously it was #3; (just examples). Your design is suddenly not going to 
look as you intended.

  My 2c.
  Adam


  On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Keryx Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Quick question.

I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled
with an e - as it should be ;-)


Lars Gunther


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Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey

2008-03-17 Thread Chris Broadfoot

Keryx Web wrote:

Quick question.

I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey, spelled 
with an e - as it should be ;-)



Lars Gunther



Probably not. grey isn't a css colour.


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Re: [WSG] IE 8 and grey

2008-03-17 Thread John Hancock
CSS is a US-spec language. If we suddenly start seeing 'colour:  
#123456;' then I'll be delighted - but I don't think the CSS authors  
are so interested in global standards ;)


On 18/03/2008, at 1:04 PM, Chris Broadfoot wrote:


Keryx Web wrote:

Quick question.
I have not got IE 8 beta 1 myself... Does it understand grey,  
spelled with an e - as it should be ;-)

Lars Gunther


Probably not. grey isn't a css colour.


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