Re: [WSG] Just for fun
> How does one acquire such stats, from the ISP or client-side utility? I just use the find & replace method in Dreamweaver MX 2004 and count the instances of any given tag :) Probably not the best way to parse a HTML file, but It works. Bert had mentioned there was a lot of DIVs, I'll just clarify: I needed to use a couple extra to clear float instances in order for the site to appear correctly in Mac IE 5. If I changed the "hack" empty divs over to like hr tags, there would have been a few less. Not counting the "container" div which makes up level one and keeps the site together, the rest of the DIV were necessary to produce the 3-column layout, keeping the center content at the top of the page and the navigation second. There are also extra DIV to emulate the boxes down the middle column. It wasn't redesign, just some emulation. Going back I could probably shave off some DIV here and there using spans or something instead, but the HTML underneath compartively to the original is quite readable. The nesting produced no load lag from any browsers. By far, not a perfect conversion, but not bad for a first and only pass at it. Chris Kennon wrote: Original "snapshot" : http://theward.net/examples/chiefs.htm Revised: http://theward.net/examples/chiefstandards.htm -- Ryan Christie| e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harrisonburg, VA | w: http://extrablack.com (opening soon) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Just for fun
Hi, How does one acquire such stats, from the ISP or client-side utility? C On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 10:45 PM, Ryan Christie wrote: I was taking requests to do a mock-up of a tables site into a CSS layout last week because the office was pretty slow all of Friday. I figured I'd share the outcome with the group. Original Stats: Tables: 31 Font Tags: 294 DIVs: 167 HTML size: 68.4kb New Stats: Tables: 3 Font Tags: 0 DIVs: 38 HTML size: 17.0kb CSS size: 5.29kb Original "snapshot" : http://theward.net/examples/chiefs.htm Revised: http://theward.net/examples/chiefstandards.htm There's a list that doesn't want to behave itself in IE, but other than that it came out alright. It was friendly in all the Mac and Win browsers I tested it in. Enjoy :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -Albert Einstein Chris http://ckimedia.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Just for fun
Very Interesting! Just goes to show how much better CSS Developed sites are - bandwidth wise. Thanks for the great example! Neerav wrote: Not bad, the only differences I could tell were quite minor Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Ryan Christie wrote: I was taking requests to do a mock-up of a tables site into a CSS layout last week because the office was pretty slow all of Friday. I figured I'd share the outcome with the group. Original Stats: Tables: 31 Font Tags: 294 DIVs: 167 HTML size: 68.4kb New Stats: Tables: 3 Font Tags: 0 DIVs: 38 HTML size: 17.0kb CSS size: 5.29kb Original "snapshot" : http://theward.net/examples/chiefs.htm Revised: http://theward.net/examples/chiefstandards.htm There's a list that doesn't want to behave itself in IE, but other than that it came out alright. It was friendly in all the Mac and Win browsers I tested it in. Enjoy :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Just for fun
Not bad, the only differences I could tell were quite minor Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Ryan Christie wrote: I was taking requests to do a mock-up of a tables site into a CSS layout last week because the office was pretty slow all of Friday. I figured I'd share the outcome with the group. Original Stats: Tables: 31 Font Tags: 294 DIVs: 167 HTML size: 68.4kb New Stats: Tables: 3 Font Tags: 0 DIVs: 38 HTML size: 17.0kb CSS size: 5.29kb Original "snapshot" : http://theward.net/examples/chiefs.htm Revised: http://theward.net/examples/chiefstandards.htm There's a list that doesn't want to behave itself in IE, but other than that it came out alright. It was friendly in all the Mac and Win browsers I tested it in. Enjoy :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Just for fun
I was taking requests to do a mock-up of a tables site into a CSS layout last week because the office was pretty slow all of Friday. I figured I'd share the outcome with the group. Original Stats: Tables: 31 Font Tags: 294 DIVs: 167 HTML size: 68.4kb New Stats: Tables: 3 Font Tags: 0 DIVs: 38 HTML size: 17.0kb CSS size: 5.29kb Original "snapshot" : http://theward.net/examples/chiefs.htm Revised: http://theward.net/examples/chiefstandards.htm There's a list that doesn't want to behave itself in IE, but other than that it came out alright. It was friendly in all the Mac and Win browsers I tested it in. Enjoy :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
