Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
Hey there. I find that when I do so, even with my site, it simply breaks my site design. It's when I click on the EditCSS button that such happens. It doesn't seem to happen with many other sites, just mine. Would that be a problem with my CSS code? Matt Andrews wrote: ... and, if you're using the Web Developer extension, Firefox has a huge advantage over Mozilla: the "Edit CSS" feature - a must for any CSS developer! load a page, choose "Edit CSS", and a sidebar opens with the CSS files. edit them and see the results *instantly* in the browser. save the CSS files out to disk. bliss :) On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:50:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Mozilla has a more mature UI, besides bundling not only mailnews but also IRC chat, address book, and web page composer. Firefox is less mature, but offers more customizability of the UI itself, separate from any extensions you may choose to add. FF, being smaller, runs slightly faster. So, which to pick depends on personal preferences as to look and feel and minor functionality, in addition to whether you need or want the bundled apps. Either way you choose, you'll want the web developer extension: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/webdeveloper ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
Hey there. I find that when I do so, even with my site, it simply breaks my site design. It's when I click on the EditCSS button that such happens. It doesn't seem to happen with many other sites, just mine. Would that be a problem with my CSS code? Matt Andrews wrote: ... and, if you're using the Web Developer extension, Firefox has a huge advantage over Mozilla: the "Edit CSS" feature - a must for any CSS developer! load a page, choose "Edit CSS", and a sidebar opens with the CSS files. edit them and see the results *instantly* in the browser. save the CSS files out to disk. bliss :) On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:50:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Mozilla has a more mature UI, besides bundling not only mailnews but also IRC chat, address book, and web page composer. Firefox is less mature, but offers more customizability of the UI itself, separate from any extensions you may choose to add. FF, being smaller, runs slightly faster. So, which to pick depends on personal preferences as to look and feel and minor functionality, in addition to whether you need or want the bundled apps. Either way you choose, you'll want the web developer extension: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/webdeveloper ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
I apologize for the repeat message. My mistake. :-( Jeremy S. (WSG) wrote: Hey there. I find that when I do so, even with my site, it simply breaks my site design. It's when I click on the EditCSS button that such happens. It doesn't seem to happen with many other sites, just mine. Would that be a problem with my CSS code? Matt Andrews wrote: ... and, if you're using the Web Developer extension, Firefox has a huge advantage over Mozilla: the "Edit CSS" feature - a must for any CSS developer! load a page, choose "Edit CSS", and a sidebar opens with the CSS files. edit them and see the results *instantly* in the browser. save the CSS files out to disk. bliss :) On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:50:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Mozilla has a more mature UI, besides bundling not only mailnews but also IRC chat, address book, and web page composer. Firefox is less mature, but offers more customizability of the UI itself, separate from any extensions you may choose to add. FF, being smaller, runs slightly faster. So, which to pick depends on personal preferences as to look and feel and minor functionality, in addition to whether you need or want the bundled apps. Either way you choose, you'll want the web developer extension: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/webdeveloper ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
It'still working for me with 1.0PR Glenn Tom Livingston wrote: Current version of Web Dev extention is incompatible with FF 1.0PR... Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
Current version of Web Dev extention is incompatible with FF 1.0PR... Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com Get FireFox http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesid=0t=1 Matt Andrews wrote: ... and, if you're using the Web Developer extension, Firefox has a huge advantage over Mozilla: the Edit CSS feature - a must for any CSS developer! load a page, choose Edit CSS, and a sidebar opens with the CSS files. edit them and see the results *instantly* in the browser. save the CSS files out to disk. bliss :) On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:50:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Mozilla has a more mature UI, besides bundling not only mailnews but also IRC chat, address book, and web page composer. Firefox is less mature, but offers more customizability of the UI itself, separate from any extensions you may choose to add. FF, being smaller, runs slightly faster. So, which to pick depends on personal preferences as to look and feel and minor functionality, in addition to whether you need or want the bundled apps. Either way you choose, you'll want the web developer extension: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/webdeveloper ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
Tom Livingston wrote: Current version of Web Dev extention is incompatible with FF 1.0PR... Rest assured that that is a temporary condition consequent to the youth of that release. -- Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.Psalm 33:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
[happy dance] Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com Get FireFox http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesid=0t=1 Dan Webb wrote: It tells you that but it lies. Ive got it working on 1.0PR by just reinstalling it after installing 1.0PR. Quoting Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Current version of Web Dev extention is incompatible with FF 1.0PR... Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com Get FireFox http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesid=0t=1 Matt Andrews wrote: ... and, if you're using the Web Developer extension, Firefox has a huge advantage over Mozilla: the Edit CSS feature - a must for any CSS developer! load a page, choose Edit CSS, and a sidebar opens with the CSS files. edit them and see the results *instantly* in the browser. save the CSS files out to disk. bliss :) On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:50:22 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Mozilla has a more mature UI, besides bundling not only mailnews but also IRC chat, address book, and web page composer. Firefox is less mature, but offers more customizability of the UI itself, separate from any extensions you may choose to add. FF, being smaller, runs slightly faster. So, which to pick depends on personal preferences as to look and feel and minor functionality, in addition to whether you need or want the bundled apps. Either way you choose, you'll want the web developer extension: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/webdeveloper ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
I agree Patrick, considering there is no proper Active X support on FF1.0PR which means XStandards wouldn't run unless it on the older version. Although they(XStandards) are working on a new verion due in a couple of weeks time which wouldn't need any active X at all. On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:10:17 +0100, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit off topic perhaps, but: I'd suggest always starting with a fresh profile when installing a new version of FF. Export your bookmarks, make a note of any passwords etc you may have, write down which extensions you absolutely need...then download the new version, start it from the command line with firefox.exe -p to force the profile manager, and set up a new virgin profile. What I did when FF1.0PR came out was to keep 0.9 still installed, to use it in the interim period while extensions were being repackaged and updated to work with 1.0PR. I simply had two shortcuts on my desktop, and changed the actual target of the shortcut to load the relevant executable plus selecting the right profile, e.g. C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox 1.0PR\firefox.exe -profile C:\Browser Profiles\Firefox 1.0PR and C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox 0.9\firefox.exe -profile C:\Browser Profiles\Firefox 0.9 Now that 1.0PR has all the extensions I need, and seems to run fairly stable, I deleted FF 0.9 and the related profile. Saves a lot of hassle in the long run...IMHO anyway. Patrick -Original Message- From: Chris Rizzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 September 2004 14:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Moz vs. FF Reinstalling Web Dev after installing 1.0 PR worked for me too. I found this true of a handful of extensions. Most of the more popular extensions seemed to still work. Try running the extension updates again after the install. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Webb Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF It tells you that but it lies. Ive got it working on 1.0PR by just reinstalling it after installing 1.0PR. Quoting Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Current version of Web Dev extention is incompatible with FF 1.0PR... Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist mlinc.com Get FireFox http://spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesid=0t=1 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Regards, Amit Karmakar http://www.karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Moz vs. FF
Am I glad to hear that. I test-drove XStandard, but my browser of choice is FF 0.9. I didn't like being forced to use IE, so that lasted about 10 minutes and I uninstalled XStandard. Otherwise it's a great tool. It's nice to know there will be an Active X-free version out soon. Leslie Riggs Amit Karmakar wrote: I agree Patrick, considering there is no proper Active X support on FF1.0PR which means XStandards wouldn't run unless it on the older version. Although they(XStandards) are working on a new verion due in a couple of weeks time which wouldn't need any active X at all. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
