Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?

2009-04-30 Thread Gary Barber
Yes you can use the IE6 PNG filter. 

However note that IE6 implementations before the service packs will not 
support this either. 

And yes there are major installations of IE6 on these older subversions 
of IE6.  This used to trip me up all the time.   To the point that I no 
longer bother, just replacing the PNG in IE6 with the GIF.   All park of 
the not for perfect experience for IE6 users.


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Zain Ansari wrote:

Hi Mike,
A simple solution for IE6 PNG support is
_*HTML Code:*_
div class=iePng_logo id=ieBg img src=images/logo_png.png 
class=ieHide //div


_*CSS Code:*_
.iePng_logo 
{filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/logo_png.png',sizingMethod='scale'); 
width:307px; height:34px;}
.iePng 
{filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/screenshot.png',sizingMethod='scale'); 
width:438px; height:230px;}

.ieHide {border:0 solid #fff; _display:none;}
#ieBg {border:0;}

You can check its working demo from the following URL, Check top left 
logo in all browsers its transparent PNG, you can save it and check 
its transparency

http://expertsdesk.net/novotech/


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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:31:15 +0100

Only if they are PNGs with alpha transparencies - these are not 
supported in IE6 amongst others (although there are hacks).  If it's 
just a straightforward image, then PNG will be absolutely fine.


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On 27 Apr 2009, at 10:46, Mike Kear wrote:

I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m
building, and rather than convert them all to gifs,   I was
thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They
work on all the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone
else’s experience has been of using .pngs in web pages.
 
Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some

browsers and not in others.   Is this still a relevant issue?
 
Cheers

Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0422 985 585
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd
http://afpwebworks.com
Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month

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Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?

2009-04-27 Thread raven
 I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m
 building, and rather than convert them all to gifs,   I was thinking
 of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all
 the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s
 experience has been of using .pngs in web pages. 

Hi. You may freely use .png in your work.
Only browser, which can't work with .png — ie6. But using conditional
comments you may create separate stile sheet and using filter handle it.

 Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some
 browsers and not in others.   Is this still a relevant issue?
Exactly, what browser cause problems?




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Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?

2009-04-27 Thread David Dorward
Mike Kear wrote:
 I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m building,
 and rather than convert them all to gifs,   I was thinking of leaving
 them as the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I
 use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s experience has been of using
 .pngs in web pages.

PNG is fine unless you have gamma information in the file[1] or 24-bit
translucency and a need to support IE6[2]

  [1] http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/
  [2] http://www.dillerdesign.com/experiment/DD_belatedPNG/


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Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?

2009-04-27 Thread Ben Dodson
Only if they are PNGs with alpha transparencies - these are not  
supported in IE6 amongst others (although there are hacks).  If it's  
just a straightforward image, then PNG will be absolutely fine.


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On 27 Apr 2009, at 10:46, Mike Kear wrote:

I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m  
building, and rather than convert them all to gifs,   I was thinking  
of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all  
the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s  
experience has been of using .pngs in web pages.


Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some browsers  
and not in others.   Is this still a relevant issue?


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0422 985 585
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd
http://afpwebworks.com
Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month

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[WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?

2009-04-27 Thread Mike Kear
I'm looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I'm building, and
rather than convert them all to gifs,   I was thinking of leaving them as
the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but
I'm wondering what everyone else's experience has been of using .pngs in web
pages. 

 

Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some browsers and not
in others.   Is this still a relevant issue?

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 

 http://afpwebworks.com http://afpwebworks.com 

Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month



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RE: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?

2009-04-27 Thread Zain Ansari
 
Hi Mike, 
A simple solution for IE6 PNG support is 
HTML Code:
div class=iePng_logo id=ieBg img src=images/logo_png.png 
class=ieHide //div

CSS Code:
.iePng_logo 
{filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/logo_png.png',sizingMethod='scale');
 width:307px; height:34px;}
.iePng 
{filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/screenshot.png',sizingMethod='scale');
 width:438px; height:230px;}
.ieHide {border:0 solid #fff; _display:none;}
#ieBg {border:0;}

You can check its working demo from the following URL, Check top left logo in 
all browsers its transparent PNG, you can save it and check its transparency
http://expertsdesk.net/novotech/

From: b...@bendodson.com
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:31:15 +0100

Only if they are PNGs with alpha transparencies - these are not supported in 
IE6 amongst others (although there are hacks).  If it's just a straightforward 
image, then PNG will be absolutely fine.
Ben
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On 27 Apr 2009, at 10:46, Mike Kear wrote:I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons 
to use in a new app I’m building, and rather than convert them all to gifs,   I 
was thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on 
all the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s experience has 
been of using .pngs in web pages. Last time I tried using a png, I found it 
worked ok in some browsers and not in others.   Is this still a relevant issue? 
CheersMike KearWindsor, NSW, Australia0422 985 585Adobe Certified Advanced 
ColdFusion DeveloperAFP Webworks Pty Ltdhttp://afpwebworks.comFull Scale 
ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month
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Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?

2009-04-27 Thread David Hucklesby

Mike Kear wrote:

I'm looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I'm
building, and rather than convert them all to gifs,   I was thinking
of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all
the browsers I use, but I'm wondering what everyone else's experience
has been of using .pngs in web pages.



As others confirm, only IE 6 has problems with PNG files. Even IE 6 can
be accommodated if you use 8-bit PNG. Check out this Sitepoint article:

http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/

Cordially,
David
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