Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
Go to (Tools » Internet Options » Temporary Internet Files » Settings) and select Every visit to page for your temp files settings in your IE to see the flickerings. With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/16/04 09:43:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad? The problem with the CSS sprites solution that Matthias posted is that it I went to the link posted (not the pixy one - the alistapart one) and there was no flicker. Nor did it see that background-position was being used. Then, after reading this last post, I went to the pixy link (which does use background-position). No flicker there either. I'm using IE 6. Did I miss something ?? Gary Menzel Web Development Manager IT Operations Brisbane -+- ABN AMRO Morgans Limited Level 29, 123 Eagle Street BRISBANE QLD 4000 PH: 07 333 44 828 FX: 07 3834 0828 If this communication is not intended for you and you are not an authorised recipient of this email you are prohibited by law from dealing with or relying on the email or any file attachments. This prohibition includes reading, printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, storing or in any other way dealing or acting in reliance on the information. If you have received this email in error, we request you contact ABN AMRO Morgans Limited immediately by returning the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original. We will refund any reasonable costs associated with notifying ABN AMRO Morgans. This email is confidential and may contain privileged client information. ABN AMRO Morgans has taken reasonable steps to ensure the accuracy and integrity of all its communications, including electronic communications, but accepts no liability for materials transmitted. Materials may also be transmitted without the knowledge of ABN AMRO Morgans. ABN AMRO Morgans Limited its directors and employees do xø ABN AMRO Morgans Limited (ABN 49 010 669 726 AFSL 235410) A Participant of ASX Group * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
Thanks for all those links :) But what I am actually asking here are comments on the Pixy's Rollover update if it is good or bad to use it because of the extra div for each navigation. And if there are limitations to its usage for e.g. td in calendars. With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/16/04 09:31:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad? Hello :) The problem with the CSS sprites solution that Matthias posted is that it will ALLWAYS cause IE6 to flicker. This is because IE6 doesn't like the background-position:___ declaration very much. (well, not at all, actually). To get a full run down on IE6's background flicker quirks and possible workaraounds, see the following link: http://www.fivesevensix.com/studies/ie6flicker/ Andrew. From: Matthias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad? Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:13:14 +0100 Hi! First of all: I'm one of those who switched from css-f to this list. As a little introduction: I'm based in Berlin/Germany and develop (design+code) websites in my sparetime. The standards-virus got me o ne year ago, especially CSS. I love it. :-) So is this fix good or bad and if there are better fix around somewhere which I have yet to discover :) http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/cssnopreloadrollovers/update.html The following article might be what you're looking for: http://alistapart.com/articles/sprites/ Dave Shea explains a method of using ONE image for a whole set of navigational elements. All you need is a identifier (id, class or may the correct parse tree) as a hook for the positioned image. Impressive technique! Regards! -- Matthias http://www.kronn.de * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
I don't think you have to have an extra div for each niviation item? If you are using an unordered list, you can apply the background image to the list item. see dan cedarholm's Accissible Image Tabs at www.simplebits.com for an example --jeremy flint www.jeremyflint.com Jaime Wong wrote: Thanks for all those links :) But what I am actually asking here are comments on the Pixy's Rollover update if it is good or bad to use it because of the extra div for each navigation. And if there are limitations to its usage for e.g. td in calendars. With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/16/04 09:31:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad? Hello :) The problem with the CSS sprites solution that Matthias posted is that it will ALLWAYS cause IE6 to flicker. This is because IE6 doesn't like the background-position:___ declaration very much. (well, not at all, actually). To get a full run down on IE6's background flicker quirks and possible workaraounds, see the following link: http://www.fivesevensix.com/studies/ie6flicker/ Andrew. From: Matthias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad? Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:13:14 +0100 Hi! First of all: I'm one of those who switched from css-f to this list. As a little introduction: I'm based in Berlin/Germany and develop (design+code) websites in my sparetime. The standards-virus got me o ne year ago, especially CSS. I love it. :-) So is this fix good or bad and if there are better fix around somewhere which I have yet to discover :) http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/cssnopreloadrollovers/update.html The following article might be what you're looking for: http://alistapart.com/articles/sprites/ Dave Shea explains a method of using ONE image for a whole set of navigational elements. All you need is a identifier (id, class or may the correct parse tree) as a hook for the positioned image. Impressive technique! Regards! -- Matthias http://www.kronn.de * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * -- Jeremy Flint www.jeremyflint.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
I went to the link posted (not the pixy one - the alistapart one) and there was no flicker. Nor did it see that background-position was being used. Then, after reading this last post, I went to the pixy link (which does use background-position). No flicker there either. I'm using IE 6. Did I miss something ?? The cause of flickering is choosing Every visit to page in Tools » Internet Options... » Temporary Internet Files » Settings...Perhaps yours is set to Automatic or something else ? Andrew. _ Personalise your mobile chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ringtones.com.au/ninemsn/control?page=/ninemsn/main.jsp * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
Hi! First of all: I'm one of those who switched from css-f to this list. As a little introduction: I'm based in Berlin/Germany and develop (design+code) websites in my sparetime. The standards-virus got me one year ago, especially CSS. I love it. :-) So is this fix good or bad and if there are better fix around somewhere which I have yet to discover :) http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/cssnopreloadrollovers/update.html The following article might be what you're looking for: http://alistapart.com/articles/sprites/ Dave Shea explains a method of using ONE image for a whole set of navigational elements. All you need is a identifier (id, class or may the correct parse tree) as a hook for the positioned image. Impressive technique! Regards! -- Matthias http://www.kronn.de * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
The problem with the CSS sprites solution that Matthias posted is that it will ALLWAYS cause IE6 to flicker. Hmm. I tested it and it didn't flicker. And, after all, it is just the pixy-solution taken to a higher level. -- Matthias http://www.kronn.de * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
Go to (Tools » Internet Options » Temporary Internet Files » Settings) and select Every visit to page for your temp files settings in your IE to see the flickerings. Okay, quite logical that it flickers if the browser has to reload it every time. But what I am actually asking here are comments on the Pixy's Rollover update if it is good or bad to use it because of the extra div for each navigation. And if there are limitations to its usage for e.g. td in calendars. To stay close to your Question, Jaime: I could find the calender. As far as I understand it, it should be a problem if you specify width and height of the td as well. Theoretically, there should be no limitations. -- Matthias http://www.kronn.de * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
Didn't the new pixy update requires extra div because it is using background colours to fix the problem? I am not using this new pixy update now. I am using the old pixy at the moment. With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/17/04 00:08:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad? I don't think you have to have an extra div for each niviation item? If you are using an unordered list, you can apply the background image to the list item. see dan cedarholm's Accissible Image Tabs at www.simplebits.com for an example --jeremy flint www.jeremyflint.com Jaime Wong wrote: Thanks for all those links :) But what I am actually asking here are comments on the Pixy's Rollover update if it is good or bad to use it because of the extra div for each navigation. And if there are limitations to its usage for e.g. td in calendars. With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/16/04 09:31:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad? Hello :) The problem with the CSS sprites solution that Matthias posted is that it will ALLWAYS cause IE6 to flicker. This is because IE6 doesn't like the background-position:___ declaration very much. (well, not at all, actually). To get a full run down on IE6's background flicker quirks and possible workaraounds, see the following link: http://www.fivesevensix.com/studies/ie6flicker/ Andrew. From: Matthias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad? Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 00:13:14 +0100 Hi! First of all: I'm one of those who switched from css-f to this list. As a little introduction: I'm based in Berlin/Germany and develop (design+code) websites in my sparetime. The standards-virus got me o ne year ago, especially CSS. I love it. :-) So is this fix good or bad and if there are better fix around somewhere which I have yet to discover :) http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/cssnopreloadrollovers/update.html The following article might be what you're looking for: http://alistapart.com/articles/sprites/ Dave Shea explains a method of using ONE image for a whole set of navigational elements. All you need is a identifier (id, class or may the correct parse tree) as a hook for the positioned image. Impressive technique! Regards! -- Matthias http://www.kronn.de * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * -- Jeremy Flint www.jeremyflint.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
The problem with the CSS sprites solution that Matthias posted is that it I went to the link posted (not the pixy one - the alistapart one) and there was no flicker. Nor did it see that background-position was being used. Then, after reading this last post, I went to the pixy link (which does use background-position). No flicker there either. I'm using IE 6. Did I miss something ?? Gary Menzel Web Development Manager IT Operations Brisbane -+- ABN AMRO Morgans Limited Level 29, 123 Eagle Street BRISBANE QLD 4000 PH: 07 333 44 828 FX: 07 3834 0828 If this communication is not intended for you and you are not an authorised recipient of this email you are prohibited by law from dealing with or relying on the email or any file attachments. This prohibition includes reading, printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, storing or in any other way dealing or acting in reliance on the information. If you have received this email in error, we request you contact ABN AMRO Morgans Limited immediately by returning the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy the original. We will refund any reasonable costs associated with notifying ABN AMRO Morgans. This email is confidential and may contain privileged client information. ABN AMRO Morgans has taken reasonable steps to ensure the accuracy and integrity of all its communications, including electronic communications, but accepts no liability for materials transmitted. Materials may also be transmitted without the knowledge of ABN AMRO Morgans. ABN AMRO Morgans Limited its directors and employees do not accept liability for the results of any actions taken or not on the basis of the information in this report. ABN AMRO Morgans Limited and its associates hold or may hold securities in the companies/trusts mentioned herein. Any recommendation is made on the basis of our research of the investment and may not suit the specific requirements of clients. Assessments of suitability to an individual?s portfolio can only be made after an examination of the particular client?s investments, financial circumstances and requirements. ABN AMRO Morgans Limited (ABN 49 010 669 726 AFSL 235410) A Participant of ASX Group * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Pixy's Rollover IE Flicker Fix - Good or bad?
I went to the link posted (not the pixy one - the alistapart one) and there was no flicker. Nor did it see that background-position was being used. Then, after reading this last post, I went to the pixy link (which does use background-position). No flicker there either. I'm using IE 6. Did I miss something ?? The cause of flickering is choosing Every visit to page in Tools » Internet Options... » Temporary Internet Files » Settings...Perhaps yours is set to Automatic or something else ? Andrew. _ Personalise your mobile chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ringtones.com.au/ninemsn/control?page=/ninemsn/main.jsp * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
