Re: [WSG] Select for menus

2008-07-23 Thread Rochester oliveira
Hi Maurinerd,

yes, it is for unifei (Universidade Federal de Itajubá ;D)

Hi Stuart,

Thank you, I will try this, but I'll try another word instead of "go",
because i've to use portuguese (something like "go to" because in
portuguese "go" haven't the meaning of "enter" the site).

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2008/7/22 Stuart Foulstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> A drop down list with a "Go" button is better than a jump menu for
> accessibility standards.
>
> If a user [can't use a mouse and] has to use the arrow keys for navigating
> the menu you will find that jump menus tend to open the second option
> automatically (i.e. when the user first uses the arrow key) and this
> prevents the user from selecting the option they want.
>
>
>
> On Tue, July 22, 2008 8:03 pm, Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote:
>> As far as I am aware the select option on a drop down list use's
>> Javascript
>> to make it into a jump menu. If you want to cater to the wider audience I
>> would say using  and CSS would be a much better option. Maybe have the
>> jump menu but have the javascript de-grade if a users haven't got it and
>> show a drop down menu with CSS?
>>
>> Just an idea.
>>
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>> Subject: [WSG] Select for menus
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm working on a job for a Brazilian university, and we should put on
>> the page a menu with links for others government websites. See an
>> example : http://www.radiobras.gov.br/estatico/ the yellow bar in the
>> top have a select menu.
>> Should I use  or follow the other sites and use the ?
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RE: [WSG] Select for menus

2008-07-22 Thread Stuart Foulstone
A drop down list with a "Go" button is better than a jump menu for
accessibility standards.

If a user [can't use a mouse and] has to use the arrow keys for navigating
the menu you will find that jump menus tend to open the second option
automatically (i.e. when the user first uses the arrow key) and this
prevents the user from selecting the option they want.



On Tue, July 22, 2008 8:03 pm, Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote:
> As far as I am aware the select option on a drop down list use's
> Javascript
> to make it into a jump menu. If you want to cater to the wider audience I
> would say using  and CSS would be a much better option. Maybe have the
> jump menu but have the javascript de-grade if a users haven't got it and
> show a drop down menu with CSS?
>
> Just an idea.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Rochester oliveira
> Sent: 22 July 2008 19:46
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Select for menus
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm working on a job for a Brazilian university, and we should put on
> the page a menu with links for others government websites. See an
> example : http://www.radiobras.gov.br/estatico/ the yellow bar in the
> top have a select menu.
> Should I use  or follow the other sites and use the ?
>
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Re: [WSG] Select for menus

2008-07-22 Thread Mauryva Das - Midiaweb

Hi again Jaça;

I quoted the example of default on government sites here in Brazil.

The site is for a public university? Cool!

best regards;
Maurivan Luiz.





Em 22/07/2008, às 16:41, Rochester oliveira escreveu:




Hi maurinerd!

Thanks :)
But the standard for Brazil is not the w3c, which should I follow?

Hi Essential eBiz Solutions

I'm aware the users don't recognize the menu with  as the same
menu of others sites. Maybe I could make it with the same arrow of the
.. It would be better than use a , and the users will
recognize it :) And Javascript will make the behavior (non-obtrusive
for sure)

Thank you

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2008/7/22 Mauryva Das - Midiaweb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Aloha Jaça/Rochester

In terms of usability believe that it is better to use 

The standard for government sites in Brazil is 

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Maurivan Luiz

Em 22/07/2008, às 15:46, Rochester oliveira escreveu:


Hi,

I'm working on a job for a Brazilian university, and we should put  
on

the page a menu with links for others government websites. See an
example : http://www.radiobras.gov.br/estatico/ the yellow bar in  
the

top have a select menu.
Should I use  or follow the other sites and use the ?

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Re: [WSG] Select for menus

2008-07-22 Thread Rochester oliveira
Hi maurinerd!

Thanks :)
But the standard for Brazil is not the w3c, which should I follow?

Hi Essential eBiz Solutions

I'm aware the users don't recognize the menu with  as the same
menu of others sites. Maybe I could make it with the same arrow of the
.. It would be better than use a , and the users will
recognize it :) And Javascript will make the behavior (non-obtrusive
for sure)

Thank you

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2008/7/22 Mauryva Das - Midiaweb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Aloha Jaça/Rochester
>
> In terms of usability believe that it is better to use 
>
> The standard for government sites in Brazil is 
>
> []'s
> Maurivan Luiz
>
> Em 22/07/2008, às 15:46, Rochester oliveira escreveu:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm working on a job for a Brazilian university, and we should put on
>> the page a menu with links for others government websites. See an
>> example : http://www.radiobras.gov.br/estatico/ the yellow bar in the
>> top have a select menu.
>> Should I use  or follow the other sites and use the ?
>>
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>> -
>> Rochester Oliveira
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Re: [WSG] Select for menus

2008-07-22 Thread Mauryva Das - Midiaweb

Aloha Jaça/Rochester

In terms of usability believe that it is better to use 

The standard for government sites in Brazil is 

[]'s
Maurivan Luiz

Em 22/07/2008, às 15:46, Rochester oliveira escreveu:


Hi,

I'm working on a job for a Brazilian university, and we should put on
the page a menu with links for others government websites. See an
example : http://www.radiobras.gov.br/estatico/ the yellow bar in the
top have a select menu.
Should I use  or follow the other sites and use the ?

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RE: [WSG] Select for menus

2008-07-22 Thread Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd
As far as I am aware the select option on a drop down list use's Javascript
to make it into a jump menu. If you want to cater to the wider audience I
would say using  and CSS would be a much better option. Maybe have the
jump menu but have the javascript de-grade if a users haven't got it and
show a drop down menu with CSS?

Just an idea.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Rochester oliveira
Sent: 22 July 2008 19:46
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Select for menus

Hi,

I'm working on a job for a Brazilian university, and we should put on
the page a menu with links for others government websites. See an
example : http://www.radiobras.gov.br/estatico/ the yellow bar in the
top have a select menu.
Should I use  or follow the other sites and use the ?

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[WSG] Select for menus

2008-07-22 Thread Rochester oliveira
Hi,

I'm working on a job for a Brazilian university, and we should put on
the page a menu with links for others government websites. See an
example : http://www.radiobras.gov.br/estatico/ the yellow bar in the
top have a select menu.
Should I use  or follow the other sites and use the ?

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