RE: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Title: RE: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards ...I'd wait until AFTER your page validates before saying things like that, and check! (http://www.autotrader.co.uk) Your fieldsets are also missing legends Jamie
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Dear Mr. Mason. I suppose that you DIDN´T understood what i wrote before. I said X HTML Web Standards, and for me, that site, even uses HTML tags as you can see follows... div style=position:absolute;left:0px;top:117px;color:white; bTo activate all search settings above pleasefont color=red a href=javascript:window.location='http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/login/uk/WWW2? su=1amp;cp='+escape(window.location);login./a /fontnbsp;nbsp;If you do not have an account pleasefont color=red a href=javascript:window.location='http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/reg/uk/WWW2?s=1amp; cp='+escape(window.location);register/a/font/b/div/div/div/form/div Sorry, but you would reconsider you comments, and read more before take an opinion. by the way, the website is already validated. best regards, Genau L. Jr http://www.meucarronovo.com.br Jamie Mason wrote: We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards ...I'd wait until AFTER your page validates before saying things like that, and check! (http://www.autotrader.co.uk) Your fieldsets are also missing legends Jamie ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Title: RE: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL Am I looking at the right site? http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1=http%3A//www.meucarronovo.com.br/ doesn't validate -Original Message- From: Genau Lopes Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 March 2005 13:46 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL Dear Mr. Mason. I suppose that you DIDN´T understood what i wrote before. I said X HTML Web Standards, and for me, that site, even uses HTML tags as you can see follows... div style=position:absolute;left:0px;top:117px;color:white; bTo activate all search settings above pleasefont color=red a href="" href="http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/login/uk/WWW2" TARGET="_blank">http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/login/uk/WWW2? su=1amp;cp='+escape(window.location);login./a /fontnbsp;nbsp;If you do not have an account pleasefont color=red a href="" href="http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/reg/uk/WWW2?s=1" TARGET="_blank">http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/reg/uk/WWW2?s=1 cp='+escape(window.location);register/a/font/b/div/div/div/form/div Sorry, but you would reconsider you comments, and read more before take an opinion. by the way, the website is already validated. best regards, Genau L. Jr http://www.meucarronovo.com.br Jamie Mason wrote: We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards ...I'd wait until AFTER your page validates before saying things like that, and check! (http://www.autotrader.co.uk) Your fieldsets are also missing legends Jamie ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Hi, I would like to show you some improvements that we did in our Portal. http://www.meucarronovo.com.br After some advices about our XHTML validation, we almost fixed all bugs in xhtml, leaving just one bit problem with our js function that detects the resolution to advertisement skyscrapper. We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards, iether using some Disabilities functions like ShortTag, to users with Carpal Tunnel and notebooks users. (as you can see http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/acessibilidade.php ). I would like to thanks all people that help us to improve the quality standards and ask for some Advices and oppinions. Thanks , Genau Lopes Junior Webdesigner/MediaDeveloper www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
good work, only two things : http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/c/mcn.css regards Daniele http://www.gizax.it Internet Accessibility - Original Message - From: Genau Lopes Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL Hi, I would like to show you some improvements that we did in our Portal. http://www.meucarronovo.com.br After some advices about our XHTML validation, we almost fixed all bugs in xhtml, leaving just one bit problem with our js function that detects the resolution to advertisement skyscrapper. We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards, iether using some Disabilities functions like ShortTag, to users with Carpal Tunnel and notebooks users. (as you can see http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/acessibilidade.php ). I would like to thanks all people that help us to improve the quality standards and ask for some Advices and oppinions. Thanks , Genau Lopes Junior Webdesigner/MediaDeveloper www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Hi Daniele, You wrote: good work, only two things : http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/c/mcn.css Hmmm I checked: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 and I found errors listed as: 1. (with the first of the used to AND two conditionals marked) Line 177, column 79: character is the first character of a delimiter but occurred as data ...avaScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElement If you wish to include the character in your output, you should escape it as lt;. Another possibility is that you forgot to close quotes in a previous tag. and: 2. (with the s of screen.width marked) Line 177, column 81: cannot generate system identifier for general entity screen.width ...aScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElementBy An entity reference was found in the document, but there is no reference by that name defined. Often this is caused by misspelling the reference name, unencoded ampersands, or by leaving off the trailing semicolon (;). The most common cause of this error is unencoded ampersands in URLs as described by the WDG in Ampersands in URLs. ... Of course, script is not an URL and I hadn't given much thought to escaping characters in JavaScript. Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
*Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? *Gene, Good question. I dont know. I will try fix that. Thanks. Gene Falck wrote: Hi Daniele, You wrote: good work, only two things : http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/c/mcn.css Hmmm I checked: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 and I found errors listed as: 1. (with the first of the used to AND two conditionals marked) Line 177, column 79: character is the first character of a delimiter but occurred as data ...avaScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElement If you wish to include the character in your output, you should escape it as lt;. Another possibility is that you forgot to close quotes in a previous tag. and: 2. (with the s of screen.width marked) Line 177, column 81: cannot generate system identifier for general entity screen.width ...aScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElementBy An entity reference was found in the document, but there is no reference by that name defined. Often this is caused by misspelling the reference name, unencoded ampersands, or by leaving off the trailing semicolon (;). The most common cause of this error is unencoded ampersands in URLs as described by the WDG in Ampersands in URLs. ... Of course, script is not an URL and I hadn't given much thought to escaping characters in JavaScript. Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
quote*Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? *Gene, Good question. I dont know. I will try fix that. Thanks. Gene, I tried switch the javascript ampersands , by ASCII code , but the js didn´t works. Anyone knows how to switch for a valid character? Thanks, Genau L. Jr Genau Lopes Jr. wrote: *Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? *Gene, Good question. I dont know. I will try fix that. Thanks. Gene Falck wrote: Hi Daniele, You wrote: good work, only two things : http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/c/mcn.css Hmmm I checked: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 and I found errors listed as: 1. (with the first of the used to AND two conditionals marked) Line 177, column 79: character is the first character of a delimiter but occurred as data ...avaScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElement If you wish to include the character in your output, you should escape it as lt;. Another possibility is that you forgot to close quotes in a previous tag. and: 2. (with the s of screen.width marked) Line 177, column 81: cannot generate system identifier for general entity screen.width ...aScriptif(document.getElementByIdscreen. width1000) document.getElementBy An entity reference was found in the document, but there is no reference by that name defined. Often this is caused by misspelling the reference name, unencoded ampersands, or by leaving off the trailing semicolon (;). The most common cause of this error is unencoded ampersands in URLs as described by the WDG in Ampersands in URLs. ... Of course, script is not an URL and I hadn't given much thought to escaping characters in JavaScript. Can you escape an ampersand using an entity such as #38; in JavaScript code and still have the script work? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Genau Lopes Jr. wrote: Gene, I tried switch the javascript ampersands , by ASCII code , but the js didn´t works. Anyone knows how to switch for a valid character? Thanks, Genau L. Jr One solution is to move the javascript to an external file and call it with a src attribute. The other is to escape it using amp; which I believe *should* work. You can also add the CDATA to the content of the script: script type=text/javascript !-- Hide script //![CDATA[ if(document.getElementById...display='block'; //]] End script hiding -- /script This causes the stuff between [CDATA[ and ]] to be sent directly as raw text. From the w3.org HTML specs... Although the STYLE and SCRIPT elements use CDATA for their data model, for these elements, CDATA must be handled differently by user agents. Markup and entities must be treated as raw text and passed to the application as is. -- http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/types.html#h-6.2 Hope that helps, Erik ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Gene Falck wrote: Hi Erik, Which is about what I was suspecting--its one thing to give the user agent an entity when what you want is a text rendering of a character and quite another to use an entity where the program must treat it as part of your coding. BTW, do you see any difference in this matter between amp; and #38;? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought that I had successfully used lt; as a comparison in a javascript before, but of course, now I can't find where I did that. I would have thought that #38; would behave exactly as amp;, but thought it might be an interesting avenue to explore... I tend to have all of my javascript in external files which is the other way to make sure that this doesn't happen. A very interesting note, however. I did some testing and found that while this failed validation: if(document.getElementByIdscreen.width1000) this did *not* fail: if(document.getElementById screen.width 1000) and I tried that code in various documents: HTML 4.01, XHTML 1.0 trans, XHTML 1.0 Strict and XHTML 1.1 Strict... all passed. It seems that the validator only really complains when and are butted up against other characters that aren't part of character entities and tags, respectively. -Erik ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Erik, You where right! My code was validated inserting spaces between the "" and "" characters. My doubt is know why the validators odnt understand those characters togheter. I will try to find some documentation and DOM specifies to discover why that happpens. BTW, Erik, you advice was very usefull. Thanks a lot. Genau L. Junior www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php Erik Peterson wrote: Gene Falck wrote: Hi Erik, Which is about what I was suspecting--its one thing to give the user agent an entity when what you want is a text rendering of a character and quite another to use an entity where the program must treat it as part of your coding. BTW, do you see any difference in this matter between amp; and #38;? Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought that I had successfully used lt; as a comparison in a _javascript_ before, but of course, now I can't find where I did that. I would have thought that #38; would behave exactly as amp;, but thought it might be an interesting avenue to explore... I tend to have all of my _javascript_ in external files which is the other way to make sure that this doesn't happen. A very interesting note, however. I did some testing and found that while this failed validation: if(document.getElementByIdscreen.width1000) this did *not* fail: if(document.getElementById screen.width 1000) and I tried that code in various documents: HTML 4.01, XHTML 1.0 trans, XHTML 1.0 Strict and XHTML 1.1 Strict... all passed. It seems that the validator only really complains when and are butted up against other characters that aren't part of character entities and tags, respectively. -Erik ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Hi Erik, You wrote: I tend to have all of my javascript in external files which is the other way to make sure that this doesn't happen. Great way to stay away from the validation of code included within an HTML file. I have one situation in which I can't see that as a solution. The file is a real horror that I have built up over time for local use to keep my work notes; it involves some degree of misuse of forms elements to conduct a search function, frames, and JavaScript that validates search terms. The point relating to the separate-file-for-JavaScript is that of all the features I added, one function just didn't work when I moved it from the page it affects. (It was fine again when I moved it back to the same page.) I have not tried to get expert help on it because the application would not be of interest (and very complicated to read through) and, by now, I have enough company data in my notes to be a security of information matter. A very interesting note, however. I did some testing and found that while this failed validation: if(document.getElementByIdscreen.width1000) this did *not* fail: if(document.getElementById screen.width 1000) Wow! That's a biggie. Just a little effort to make code more readable to humans helps the validator! Thanks for the insight, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
