Re: [WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense
Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the
parent of the element via the Holly hack.
What does that mean? You want to give a height:0 to the parent
element? I don't get it...
-Nate
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Ingo Chao wrote:
tee schrieb:
Here is the url:
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/dojoprocedures.html
Another page that is using the #preamble is 'Karate overview'.
There should have a fist image next to 'Dojo' and 'Karate overview', but
it's not there in PC IE 5.5/6.
Sense? We still speak of IE, don't we?
Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the
parent of the element via the Holly hack.
/* \*/
* html #preamble,
* html #supportingText,
* html #explanation,
* html #furtherExplanation,
* html #schools {_height:0; }
/* */
Ingo
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Re: [WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense
Nathan Rutman schrieb: Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the parent of the element via the Holly hack. What does that mean? You want to give a height:0 to the parent element? I don't get it... Holly Bergevin's hack is described in detail here: http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?page=2cid=C37E0 The intention of this hack is not to give whatever height to the container, but to let the block gain layout. Layout can only be described roughly as a IE-Win proprietary undocumented concept to establish a rectangular rendering entity that is responsible for drawing its own content. Explorer's dimensional bugs are related to the presence or absence of layout: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html Note: I don't know if this hack fixes the bug in tee's page, it does on a local simplified copy, though. You mentioned the dependence on some characters more or less, and I can confirm this. Sometimes these characters more or less shift the wrapping of the content just by some microns, i.e. lines do not end with italicised content, or the wrapping content next to a float leaves a single line blank near to the last bottom line of the float, and so on. Or a tight fitting of the related containers induces more problems like duplicated last characters. Would be interesting to see your minimalized bug test page. Ingo ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense
Oh, that IS interesting! And very helpful. Thanks for sharing! -Nate Ingo Chao wrote: Nathan Rutman schrieb: Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the parent of the element via the Holly hack. What does that mean? You want to give a height:0 to the parent element? I don't get it... Holly Bergevin's hack is described in detail here: http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?page=2cid=C37E0 The intention of this hack is not to give whatever height to the container, but to let the block gain layout. Layout can only be described roughly as a IE-Win proprietary undocumented concept to establish a rectangular rendering entity that is responsible for drawing its own content. Explorer's dimensional bugs are related to the presence or absence of layout: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html Note: I don't know if this hack fixes the bug in tee's page, it does on a local simplified copy, though. You mentioned the dependence on some characters more or less, and I can confirm this. Sometimes these characters more or less shift the wrapping of the content just by some microns, i.e. lines do not end with italicised content, or the wrapping content next to a float leaves a single line blank near to the last bottom line of the float, and so on. Or a tight fitting of the related containers induces more problems like duplicated last characters. Would be interesting to see your minimalized bug test page. Ingo ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense
Hi, Ingo, thank you very much. IT WORKS!
Sense? We still speak of IE, don't we?
Well, the reason I thought it wasn't make sense was because I grouped all h3
together therefore the background image should either show or not, to all.
It just proves again, I have so much to learn.
tee
Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the parent
of the element via the Holly hack.
/* \*/
* html #preamble,
* html #supportingText,
* html #explanation,
* html #furtherExplanation,
* html #schools {_height:0; }
/* */
Ingo
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Re: [WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense
Hi Nathan, thanks for bringing up the question to Ingo, otherwise I might just happily copy his code without asking why. Now I am going back to read the article second time. tee Nathan Rutman schrieb: Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the parent of the element via the Holly hack. What does that mean? You want to give a height:0 to the parent element? I don't get it... Holly Bergevin's hack is described in detail here: http://www.communitymx.com/content/article.cfm?page=2cid=C37E0 The intention of this hack is not to give whatever height to the container, but to let the block gain layout. Layout can only be described roughly as a IE-Win proprietary undocumented concept to establish a rectangular rendering entity that is responsible for drawing its own content. Explorer's dimensional bugs are related to the presence or absence of layout: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html Note: I don't know if this hack fixes the bug in tee's page, it does on a local simplified copy, though. You mentioned the dependence on some characters more or less, and I can confirm this. Sometimes these characters more or less shift the wrapping of the content just by some microns, i.e. lines do not end with italicised content, or the wrapping content next to a float leaves a single line blank near to the last bottom line of the float, and so on. Or a tight fitting of the related containers induces more problems like duplicated last characters. Would be interesting to see your minimalized bug test page. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense
I have a group of h3 that shares the same background image.
#preamble h3, #supportingText h3, #explanation h3, #furtherExplanation h3,
#footnote h3 {
font: normal 1.2em Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif;
color: #573900;
margin-left: 165px;
padding: 35px 0 15px 40px;
background: url(images/fist.jpg) no-repeat 0px 30px;
}
The #preamble h3 background image not showing up in PC IE but the rest of
the h3 are ok. This is all very strange, I can't find what I did wrong.
Here is the url:
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/dojoprocedures.html
Another page that is using the #preamble is 'Karate overview'.
There should have a fist image next to 'Dojo' and 'Karate overview', but
it's not there in PC IE 5.5/6.
Regards,
Tee
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Re: [WSG] Strange IE behavious that doesn't make sense
tee schrieb:
Here is the url:
http://clients.lotusseeds.com/dojoprocedures.html
Another page that is using the #preamble is 'Karate overview'.
There should have a fist image next to 'Dojo' and 'Karate overview', but
it's not there in PC IE 5.5/6.
Sense? We still speak of IE, don't we?
Whenever a background is disappearing, try to give layout to the parent
of the element via the Holly hack.
/* \*/
* html #preamble,
* html #supportingText,
* html #explanation,
* html #furtherExplanation,
* html #schools {_height:0; }
/* */
Ingo
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