Re: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?

2004-05-16 Thread James Ellis
Kay
Yep, Netscape 7 (7.01 I think) is basically Mozilla 1.01. It's available 
on the  Mozilla.org old releases page. I believe 7.1 is forked off the 
Mozilla 1.4 codebase and that's when support for OS8 and 9 got dropped. 
There's a roadmap somewhere on the Moz site with all this.

Cheers
James
Kay Smoljak wrote:
James Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
 

That said, I *will* try, as it is the only useful browser for OS8 - 9, 
apart from Mozilla 1.0x from 2002.
   

I convinced a client on OS9 to upgrade from Netscape 4(!) to Netscape 7. I had
to hunt for it - the very latest version of Netscape is OSX only, but a
previous release was OS9 compatible. I think I found it on the Canadian
Netscape site.
K.
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Re: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?

2004-05-15 Thread Kay Smoljak
James Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> That said, I *will* try, as it is the only useful browser for OS8 - 9, 
> apart from Mozilla 1.0x from 2002.

I convinced a client on OS9 to upgrade from Netscape 4(!) to Netscape 7. I had
to hunt for it - the very latest version of Netscape is OSX only, but a
previous release was OS9 compatible. I think I found it on the Canadian
Netscape site.

K.

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Re: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?

2004-05-15 Thread James Ellis
Hi
Thanks everyone for the tips, I'll try them out and report back.
If at the end of the day the solutions don't work I'll happily hide the 
stylesheets from it.. this browser is in the same basket as NN4 - not 
being updated anymore and population decreasing. At least then the 
content will be usable for those visitors.

That said, I *will* try, as it is the only useful browser for OS8 - 9, 
apart from Mozilla 1.0x from 2002.

thanks again
James
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RE: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?

2004-05-15 Thread Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st
This is probably a good place to start:
http://www.macedition.com/cb/ie5macbugs/

Cheers
Jeff Lowder
Accessibility 1st
Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au
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Subject: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?

Hi all

Having some problems with a site that is crashing IE5 on the Mac (OS8 to

X). The code is moving towards HTML4 compliance with only a few 
character errors, tag ends i.e ">" instead of " />"' ,  and one id clash

left to fix.

I tested the site and it works perfectly on :
IE5.5, 6 for Windows.
The Geckos (Netscape 7, Mozilla, Camino, FF)
Safari
Opera 7.0 - 7.5 on all OS's

partial  (content readable) on IE5.0 for Win.

I have borrowed an old Mac OS9 fliptop/frisbee and will do some testing 
on Monday - i came across this site
http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/hiding/ while googling and am thinking of 
employing this method. Given that the site is usable for   
of users I'm not prepared to invest the time in hacking a stylesheet so 
that one browser that MS doesn't make any more is okwith the risk of

breaking it for the above browsers. Unfortunately IE5 on OS9 is the only

browser for this OS (apart from some older Mozilla's like 1.01)

I'd rather hide styles which I know is the problem so has anyone had any

experience with the single quote @import method in the above link?. I 
guess it'll hide em for NN4 as well.

If you want to have a look at the site in IE5 on the Mac I can send a 
link off list.

Cheers
James

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Re: [WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?

2004-05-15 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
If you just want to hide certain things from IE 5.2 Mac, then use 
comments as shown below.  You need that \ at the end onf the top 
comment for it to work.

/* Hide from IE5 Mac \*/
((whatever you want to hide))
/* End Hide */
On May 15, 2004, at 01:33, James Ellis wrote:
Hi all
Having some problems with a site that is crashing IE5 on the Mac (OS8 
to X). The code is moving towards HTML4 compliance with only a few 
character errors, tag ends i.e ">" instead of " />"' ,  and one id 
clash left to fix.

I tested the site and it works perfectly on :
IE5.5, 6 for Windows.
The Geckos (Netscape 7, Mozilla, Camino, FF)
Safari
Opera 7.0 - 7.5 on all OS's
partial  (content readable) on IE5.0 for Win.
I have borrowed an old Mac OS9 fliptop/frisbee and will do some 
testing on Monday - i came across this site
http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/hiding/ while googling and am thinking 
of employing this method. Given that the site is usable for   of users I'm not prepared to invest the time in hacking a 
stylesheet so that one browser that MS doesn't make any more is 
okwith the risk of breaking it for the above browsers. 
Unfortunately IE5 on OS9 is the only browser for this OS (apart from 
some older Mozilla's like 1.01)

I'd rather hide styles which I know is the problem so has anyone had 
any experience with the single quote @import method in the above 
link?. I guess it'll hide em for NN4 as well.

If you want to have a look at the site in IE5 on the Mac I can send a 
link off list.

Cheers
James
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[WSG] hiding styles from Mac IE5 : how to?

2004-05-14 Thread James Ellis
Hi all
Having some problems with a site that is crashing IE5 on the Mac (OS8 to 
X). The code is moving towards HTML4 compliance with only a few 
character errors, tag ends i.e ">" instead of " />"' ,  and one id clash 
left to fix.

I tested the site and it works perfectly on :
IE5.5, 6 for Windows.
The Geckos (Netscape 7, Mozilla, Camino, FF)
Safari
Opera 7.0 - 7.5 on all OS's
partial  (content readable) on IE5.0 for Win.
I have borrowed an old Mac OS9 fliptop/frisbee and will do some testing 
on Monday - i came across this site
http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/hiding/ while googling and am thinking of 
employing this method. Given that the site is usable for   
of users I'm not prepared to invest the time in hacking a stylesheet so 
that one browser that MS doesn't make any more is okwith the risk of 
breaking it for the above browsers. Unfortunately IE5 on OS9 is the only 
browser for this OS (apart from some older Mozilla's like 1.01)

I'd rather hide styles which I know is the problem so has anyone had any 
experience with the single quote @import method in the above link?. I 
guess it'll hide em for NN4 as well.

If you want to have a look at the site in IE5 on the Mac I can send a 
link off list.

Cheers
James
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