RE: [WSG] semantic help needed

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Novitski

At 03:30 AM 2/12/2006, kvnmcwebn wrote:

in this structure from the w3c i dont think theres any hierarhcy for the
first dt?


   Center
   Centre
A point equidistant from all points
  on the surface of a sphere.
In some field sports, the player who
  holds the middle position on the field, court,
  or forward line.



Right, I don't see a unique hierarchy for the first DT, I see the 
first two DTs acting together as one complex DT, just as the two DDs 
form a single complex DD.


P. 


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RE: [WSG] semantic help needed

2006-02-12 Thread kvnmcwebn

Paul-

"I think your initial DT element is widowed and needs at least
one DD before the next DT because it functions as the title for the
entire subsequent structure.  This looks like two-level nesting to
me, and I'd tend to mark it up like this:"

kvn-
I think you hit the nail on the head, i knew that there a better way to
relate the top term with the subsequent content,  i even though about using
an h for a second.


in this structure from the w3c i dont think theres any hierarhcy for the
first dt?


   Center
   Centre
A point equidistant from all points
  on the surface of a sphere.
In some field sports, the player who
  holds the middle position on the field, court,
  or forward line.




thanks a mill

kvn


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Re: [WSG] semantic help needed

2006-02-12 Thread Paul Novitski

At 01:49 AM 2/12/2006, kvnmcwebn wrote:

I have to semantically mark up large lists of contact info.
Below is an example of one of the list items.
Is this the best way to mark it up?


Accord Inishowen


Contact Name:
Secretary: Breege Canny 

Contact Information
Tel: 074 937 4103 - 07493 74103
Fax: 074 9374103
Web Site: Click to view.
Email: Send Email..




kvn, I think your initial DT element is widowed and needs at least 
one DD before the next DT because it functions as the title for the 
entire subsequent structure.  This looks like two-level nesting to 
me, and I'd tend to mark it up like this:



   Accord Inishowen
   
  
 Contact Name:
 Secretary: Breege Canny

 Contact Information
  Tel: 074 937 4103 - 07493 74103
  Fax: 074 9374103
 Web Site: Click to view.
  Email: Send Email..
  
   


The definition term is Accord Inishowen and its corresponding 
definition is the contact block.  The contact block consists of two 
terms: Contact Name with its one definition and Contact Information 
with its four definitions.


As I read them, neither the W3C HTML 4.01 spec [see link in footnote 
1 below] nor the XHTML-Strict DTD [footnote 2 below] dictates that at 
least one DD must follow a DT, nor that two consecutive DTs must be 
alternates to one another.  I'm making assumptions based on their 
examples.  In their examples, the DT element is repeated when there 
are variant spellings of the definition term, which metaphorically I 
interpret as meaning "when there are variant forms of the 
object."  Here's their example:



   Center
   Centre
A point equidistant from all points
  on the surface of a sphere.
In some field sports, the player who
  holds the middle position on the field, court,
  or forward line.


Two definition terms providing variant forms of the object, and two 
definition descriptions giving variant definitions of the object.


Considering the W3C's examples and the semantic sense of your contact 
info structure, I'd argue for a two-level nested list.


Paul
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[footnote 1]
HTML 4.01 Specification
10.3 Definition lists: the DL, DT, and DD elements
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html#h-10.3

[footnote 2]
W3C Document Type Definition (DTD) for XHTML 1.0 Strict
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd


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Re: [WSG] semantic help needed

2006-02-12 Thread Vincent Hasselgård
Either that way or with a table. I'd go with that way.There was a discussion about this exactly same topic not so long ago on the list.I'd try to find it, was alot of good opinions and suggestions as to what would be the most semantically way to do it.
VincentOn 2/12/06, kvnmcwebn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have to semantically mark up large lists of contact info.Below is an example of one of the list items.Is this the best way to mark it up?Accord Inishowen
Contact Name:Secretary: Breege Canny Contact Information    Tel: 074 937 4103 - 07493 74103    Fax: 074 9374103
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[WSG] semantic help needed

2006-02-12 Thread kvnmcwebn
I have to semantically mark up large lists of contact info.
Below is an example of one of the list items.
Is this the best way to mark it up?



Accord Inishowen


Contact Name:
Secretary: Breege Canny 

Contact Information
Tel: 074 937 4103 - 07493 74103
Fax: 074 9374103
Web Site: Click to view.
Email: Send Email..



-thanks
kvnmcwebn

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