[WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

[Ted Drake]

Hi All
I've always been one to remove border attributes from data table markup. 

However, today I disabled styles on a fairly complicated table and realized
it made very little sense without any demarcation between the cells.
 
It would be simple enough to do table border=1.
And table, td, th, thead, tbody, tfoot {border:none;}

And then add them back as needed.

What do you think? Is it a good idea? Should I turn around and run away from
adding some presentational markup in my pages?



Ted Drake
Front-end Engineer
Yahoo! Tech


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Re: [WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

[Christian Montoya]

 It would be simple enough to do table border=1.
 And table, td, th, thead, tbody, tfoot {border:none;}

 And then add them back as needed.

 What do you think? Is it a good idea? Should I turn around and run away from
 adding some presentational markup in my pages?

I think it's find to have border=1 in the markup. As you said,
without the CSS, the table really lacks visually, so I think you would
actually be making it less accessible by not hard coding the border.

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Re: [WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

[heretic]

Hi,

 However, today I disabled styles on a fairly complicated table and realized
 it made very little sense without any demarcation between the cells.
 It would be simple enough to do table border=1.

I've found that tables really need a border to make sense, much the
same as a fieldset needs the border.

I think it should be the default, basically. So, for all my tables I
include border=1 and style however I want over the top of that.

Ben Buchanan

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