R: [WSG] Re: ARIA

2008-08-11 Thread Diego La Monica
Hi Hassan and everybody,
  I think that we have to take a while of silence and think about what is 
*necessary* and what is *pointless*.
Well. I'm member of W3C PFWG but I'd like to stress that what follows is my 
opinion and does not reflect necessary the opinion of the whole Group. 
  Well, I think that:
1. If you provide a valid mark-up you don't need to validate it.
2. If you apply ARIA roles, states and properties in your mark-up and HTML 
Validator does not validate them... what's the problem? Is the Browser does not 
render the page correctly? Well, the page is correctly rendered.
3. If you put ARIA in your mark-up, after that you validate the page, are you 
making some mistakes? No

After that I suppose that serving a page understandable by AT (Assistive 
Technology) is much more important of validation of the page... 
(I'm not flaming but) I'm not saying to serve invalid pages but:
valid mark-up (self validation) with gain of ARIA is better than valid mark-up 
(HTML Validator).

In conclusion, ARIA is still a Working Draft. Don't pretend to have all before 
the time.

*NOTE* I want to clarify again that what I wrote reflects exclusively my humble 
point of view.

Cheers.

Diego La Monica
Member of Protocols and Formats Working Group for IWA/HWG
mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica
web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it
 
 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per
 conto di Hassan Schroeder
 Inviato: lunedì 11 agosto 2008 17.17
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 Oggetto: Re: [WSG] Re: ARIA
 
 David Dorward wrote:
 
  When will the W3C validator support ARIA?
 
  As I said Now.
 
 Using your provided DTD, a simple test file results in:
 
 Errors found while checking this document as -//W3C//DTD XHTML+ARIA
 1.0//EN!
 
 Validation Output:  13 Errors
 
 1. Error Line 2, Column 76: could not get
 /MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd from www.w3.org (reason given was Not
 Found).
 
…//www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd
 
✉
 2. Error Line 2, Column 76: DTD did not contain element declaration
 for document type name.
 
…//www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd
 
✉
 
A DOCTYPE declares the version of the language used, as well as
 what the root (top) element of your document will be. For example, if
 the top element of your document is html, the DOCTYPE declaration will
 look like: !DOCTYPE html.
 
In most cases, it is safer not to type or edit the DOCTYPE
 declaration at all, and preferable to let a tool include it, or copy and
 paste it from a trusted list of DTDs.
 
 
 
 
 Perhaps you have an example file that validates?
 
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