Re: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

2008-01-07 Thread Gitanjali
Heloo

Can any boy help out wid this problem.

the problem is when my dropdown menu r any frams r over the combobos, det
frams r visible under the combobox..

please give me d solution for dis ASAp

Thank u..

On Jan 7, 2008 5:37 PM, Frank Palinkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Brilliant! Thank you Chris.
>
>
> Frank,
>
> try this...
>
> if (typeof document.removeChild != undefined) {
>var div = document.getElementById("remove");
>div.parentNode.removeChild(div);
> } else {
>document.getElementById("remove").style.display = "none";
> }
>
> if you're doing a lot of checking throughout your code though set a
> global flag...
>
> var DOM = document.getElementById ? true : false;
>
> and then...
>
> if (DOM) {
>...
> }
>
> email me direct if you want to discuss as it's probably off topic by now.
>
> --
> Chris Knowles
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RE: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

2008-01-07 Thread Frank Palinkas
Brilliant! Thank you Chris.


Frank,

try this...

if (typeof document.removeChild != undefined) {
var div = document.getElementById("remove");
div.parentNode.removeChild(div);
} else {
document.getElementById("remove").style.display = "none";
}

if you're doing a lot of checking throughout your code though set a
global flag...

var DOM = document.getElementById ? true : false;

and then...

if (DOM) {
...
}

email me direct if you want to discuss as it's probably off topic by now.

--
Chris Knowles


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Re: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

2008-01-07 Thread Chris Knowles
Frank Palinkas wrote:

> function remove()
> {
> if (remove)
> {
> var div = document.getElementById("remove");
> div.parentNode.removeChild(div);
> }
> else
> {
> document.getElementById("remove").style.display = "none";
> }
> }
> 
Frank,

try this...

if (typeof document.removeChild != undefined) {
var div = document.getElementById("remove");
div.parentNode.removeChild(div);
} else {
document.getElementById("remove").style.display = "none";
}

if you're doing a lot of checking throughout your code though set a
global flag...

var DOM = document.getElementById ? true : false;

and then...

if (DOM) {
...
}

email me direct if you want to discuss as it's probably off topic by now.

-- 
Chris Knowles


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RE: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

2008-01-07 Thread Frank Palinkas
Hi Chris,

(My apologies to the list moderators if this is getting to Behavior orientated.)

> If so, then I'm not sure there's ever really a choice. e.g. in your
> example you would need to use both methods to cover a) and b):
> a) would need you to set the style to display: none
> and b) would need you to try and remove the node

I don't know if this will satisfy the conditions you raised, but combining the 
two methods with an if else statement may make sense:

/*

function remove()
{
if (remove)
{
var div = document.getElementById("remove");
div.parentNode.removeChild(div);
}
else
{
document.getElementById("remove").style.display = "none";
}
}

*/

Kind regards,

Frank


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RE: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

2008-01-07 Thread Frank Palinkas
Hi Kevin, and thanks. I think I've found a simpler way to handle this. Please 
see my next reply to Chris Knowles.

Kind regards,

Frank


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle
Sent: Monday, 07 January, 2008 10:57 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

This is way above me but isn't that what the below method does?

http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/

if so how does he do it?
it seems to be the savy solution



hope my reply is relevant

-kevin



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Re: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

2008-01-07 Thread kevin mcmonagle

This is way above me but isn't that what the below method does?

http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/

if so how does he do it?
it seems to be the savy solution



hope my reply is relevant

-kevin



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RE: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

2008-01-07 Thread Frank Palinkas
Hi Chris,

Thanks for the reply. As you illustrate, trying to be definitive in this 
situation seems pretty much impossible. It's appreciated.

Kind regards,

Frank


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Knowles
Sent: Monday, 07 January, 2008 9:54 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

Frank Palinkas wrote:

>
> Am I correct in thinking that behavior should target structure first, and if 
> necessary, presentation second?
>

Frank,

when you have a choice I don't think it matters which one you choose.

But this raises another question I'd like to ask...take these situations:

a) the user agent has Javascript that doesn't support the DOM (but has
CSS enabled)
b) the user agent is Javascript enabled and not CSS enabled

how common is a) (maybe not on the desktop but what about other
devices?) and does b) actually exist out there?

If so, then I'm not sure there's ever really a choice. e.g. in your
example you would need to use both methods to cover a) and b):
a) would need you to set the style to display: none
and b) would need you to try and remove the node

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Re: [WSG] Behavior Effecting Presentation or Structure - Precedence?

2008-01-07 Thread Chris Knowles
Frank Palinkas wrote:

> 
> Am I correct in thinking that behavior should target structure first, and if 
> necessary, presentation second?
> 

Frank,

when you have a choice I don't think it matters which one you choose.

But this raises another question I'd like to ask...take these situations:

a) the user agent has Javascript that doesn't support the DOM (but has
CSS enabled)
b) the user agent is Javascript enabled and not CSS enabled

how common is a) (maybe not on the desktop but what about other
devices?) and does b) actually exist out there?

If so, then I'm not sure there's ever really a choice. e.g. in your
example you would need to use both methods to cover a) and b):
a) would need you to set the style to display: none
and b) would need you to try and remove the node

-- 
Chris Knowles


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