RE: [WSG] IE problem with ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
Duncan Stigwood ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? which I think I understand is the Document Character Set, i.e. V. important. However having it in my document makes IE screw up all absolute positioning!! IE goes into quirks mode when there's ANYTHING in front of the opening html ... tag. Just drop the ?xml ...? declaration, as it's still valid as per Appendix C of the XHTML spec http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#C_1 Patrick __ Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE problem with ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
You can leave out the xml prolog, its IE messing things up again (yet again - over and over) if you choose to put it in IE (aka inferior explorer) will use quirksmode and ignore all mannor of things such as absolute positioning, and a whole raft of other things, other compliant browsers will be fine and respond according to the rule book. sam Duncan Stigwood wrote: HELP! Tidy puts in ?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"? which I think I understand is the Document Character Set, i.e. V. important. However having it in my document makes IE screw up all absolute positioning!! What am I doing wrong? Thanks guys ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE problem with ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
Hi Depending on the tidy library you are using, you should be able to pass in the parameter add-xml-decl as boolean false. The Tidy library that you use should then not add the XML prolog. See: http://tidy.sourceforge.net/docs/quickref.html#add-xml-decl; Cheers James ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE problem with ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
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RE: [WSG] IE problem with ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
Duncan, As the others have said, you can omit the declaration if you want to avoid affecting standards mode in IE (see http://www.w3.org/International/articles/serving-xhtml/ ) The key thing is to check that your file is encoded in the encoding you want, ie. do you want it to be encoded in iso-8859-1 or in utf-8? I'm just about to release a new article that might help here: http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-changing-encoding If you want more information about this: The 'Document Character Set' is actually utf-8 (see http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-doc-charset ) You should at least check that you do declare the encoding in a meta tag, and that it is correct. For more info see http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/tutorial-char-enc/ HTH, RI Richard Ishida W3C contact info: http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/ W3C Internationalization: http://www.w3.org/International/ Publication blog: http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duncan Stigwood Sent: 26 August 2005 13:32 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] IE problem with ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? HELP! Tidy puts in ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? which I think I understand is the Document Character Set, i.e. V. important. However having it in my document makes IE screw up all absolute positioning!! What am I doing wrong? Thanks guys ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE problem with ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
To make things a bit more explicit (and I hope I'm not talking rubbish, as I'm going from memory here) Richard Ishida The key thing is to check that your file is encoded in the encoding you want, ie. do you want it to be encoded in iso-8859-1 or in utf-8? The default encoding of an XML document that's assumed in the absence of the ?xml ...? is utf-8. You should at least check that you do declare the encoding in a meta tag, and that it is correct. Although it's best to also send the correct HTTP header to specify the document's encoding (otherwise it's the weird situation in which a browser needs to start receiving the document, then find out via the META what encoding it's in...which can cause problems in edge cases, if I remember correctly). Of course, the header and the META should not contradict each other either. Patrick __ Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE problem with ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1?
Patrick Lauke skrev: Richard Ishida You should at least check that you do declare the encoding in a meta tag, and that it is correct. Although it's best to also send the correct HTTP header to specify the document's encoding (otherwise it's the weird situation in which a browser needs to start receiving the document, then find out via the META what encoding it's in...which can cause problems in edge cases, if I remember correctly). Of course, the header and the META should not contradict each other either. If you are using META providing charset info, put it immediately after the HEAD element, to not not make this construct more weird than necessarily. Even if using HTTP headers is the first choice, including the META tag can prove useful for people saving the page for offline use, as HTTP headers are usually not saved with the page. I always use both methods. /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
