RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
As I said earlier, some .pdf's can be made accessible in the later versions of Acrobat Standard andProfessionalunder Tools and Accessibility. For those type of documents you can also open your .pdf document and do a "save as" and save it as a .doc or .rtf. It will tell you if you cannot save itas a .doc or .rtf. It depends on how the .pdf was originally created. Nancy Johnson Web Usability [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,Sorry I am a bit late on this. While I haven't got a direct answer, I wrotean article about PDFs and Accessibility which might provide you with someuseful information.http://www.usability.com.au/resources/pdf.cfmI know some large organisations (at least one bank) use tools toautomatically convert PDFs to RTF - however, they have to then translate theinformation contained in things like graphs and flow charts by hand.Roger-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Behalf Of CHAUDHRY, BhuvneshSent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 8:37 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversionsHi,The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed theissue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing thisproblem.Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF intoHTML or any other ways to make the PDF files accessible.Any thoughts would be welcome.ThanksBhuvnesh Chaudhry*This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for thenamed addressee and could contain information that is confidential orprivileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that anydissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited.Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intendedrecipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments.This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computerviruses.***The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting helpThe discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help** Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
OminPage is an OCR program. Haven't used it yet, but supposed to convert PDFs to any document type - word, excel, htm, etc, and retain formatting. pretty cheap too, under 1K Lilania Kershaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Bentley Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdftohtml/ cheers, Chris ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
Maybe this isn't exactly what your question is, but if you convert a document from something like Word to .pdf using Acrobat Standard or Professional, andthen you can add accessibility tags which is located under the Tools in the menu. JAWS reads this just fine. That is if the user has Acrobat Reader 5 or 6. I tested it at a friend ofmine's home who is blind. Weare so understaffed that we have to depend on .pdf files whether I like it or not. I also encourage any userwho cannot read the .pdf to email useand we will email them the .doc version. If all your documents were originally scanned in as jpegs, then they can never be made accessible. For those documents, I do try to let the user know. Nancy JohnsonAmit Karmakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhuvnesh,Try this also,http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/support/Training/Online/webdesign/accessibility.html#pluginsOn Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:38:44 +1000, Andrew Ivin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi Bhuvnesh, I don't know if this may suit your needs, but google's search results for PDF's also provides a html version of the PDF. On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:37:15 +1000, CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi, The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed the issue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing this problem. Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML or any other ways to make the PDF files accessible. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thanks Bhuvnesh Chaudhry * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. * ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Regards,Amit Karmakarhttp://karmakars.com**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help** Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!
RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
Hi, Sorry I am a bit late on this. While I haven't got a direct answer, I wrote an article about PDFs and Accessibility which might provide you with some useful information. http://www.usability.com.au/resources/pdf.cfm I know some large organisations (at least one bank) use tools to automatically convert PDFs to RTF - however, they have to then translate the information contained in things like graphs and flow charts by hand. Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions Hi, The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed the issue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing this problem. Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML or any other ways to make the PDF files accessible. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thanks Bhuvnesh Chaudhry * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. * ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
There are a few tools and some suggestions to make PDF documents accessible but do you think there is one solution/process/tool which can actually convert a typical PDF file containing 2 column text flow a few graphs a couple of tables and a few images into a usable (not only accessible) document for the web? I still have a feeling that you can click on all these links to gather some information but at the end of the day you still don't have a solution. I just feel helpless. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kershaw, Lilania Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 15:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions OminPage is an OCR program. Haven't used it yet, but supposed to convert PDFs to any document type - word, excel, htm, etc, and retain formatting. pretty cheap too, under 1K Lilania Kershaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Bentley Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdftohtml/ cheers, Chris ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. * ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
Hi Chaudry, the PDF to html conversion tools i know of do not create accessible HTML, merely flaky html versions of the inaccessible PDF's your best bet is to mark up the content as HTML in the first place and offer the PDF as an alternative. I presume this is not what you wanted to hear... with regards Steven Faulkner Web Accessibility Consultant National Information Library Service (NILS) 454 Glenferrie Road Kooyong Victoria 3144 Phone: (613) 9864 9281 Fax: (613) 9864 9210 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Information Library Service A subsidiary of RBS.RVIB.VAF Ltd. CHAUDHRY, BhuvneshTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: v.auSubject: RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] group.org 06/10/2004 08:51 AM Please respond to wsg There are a few tools and some suggestions to make PDF documents accessible but do you think there is one solution/process/tool which can actually convert a typical PDF file containing 2 column text flow a few graphs a couple of tables and a few images into a usable (not only accessible) document for the web? I still have a feeling that you can click on all these links to gather some information but at the end of the day you still don't have a solution. I just feel helpless. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kershaw, Lilania Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 15:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions OminPage is an OCR program. Haven't used it yet, but supposed to convert PDFs to any document type - word, excel, htm, etc, and retain formatting. pretty cheap too, under 1K Lilania Kershaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Bentley Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdftohtml/ cheers, Chris ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information
Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed the issue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing this problem. You may be after tagged pdf's: http://www.planetpdf.com/enterprise/article.asp?ContentID=6067 http://www.webaim.org/techniques/acrobat/ (links straight from Google) You may have noticed that the subject of pdf's was quite explosive at WE04. Some believe that PDF's should be avoided where-ever possible, while others believe that if you make pdf's as accessible as possible then you have done you bit. Bruce Maguire (HEROC) believes that currently developers should try to provide pdf content in some other form - such as html. HTH Russ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
Thanks Russ, for the quick reply. The link you sent is quite informative but as Bruce Maguire also believes, do you know of any GOOD PDF to HTML converters ? Regards Bhuvnesh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Tuesday, 5 October 2004 08:50 To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed the issue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing this problem. You may be after tagged pdf's: http://www.planetpdf.com/enterprise/article.asp?ContentID=6067 http://www.webaim.org/techniques/acrobat/ (links straight from Google) You may have noticed that the subject of pdf's was quite explosive at WE04. Some believe that PDF's should be avoided where-ever possible, while others believe that if you make pdf's as accessible as possible then you have done you bit. Bruce Maguire (HEROC) believes that currently developers should try to provide pdf content in some other form - such as html. HTH Russ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. * ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
Hi Bhuvnesh, I don't know if this may suit your needs, but google's search results for PDF's also provides a html version of the PDF. On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:37:15 +1000, CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed the issue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing this problem. Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML or any other ways to make the PDF files accessible. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thanks Bhuvnesh Chaudhry * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. * ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] PDF to HTML conversions
Bhuvnesh, Try this also, http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/support/Training/Online/webdesign/accessibility.html#plugins On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:38:44 +1000, Andrew Ivin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bhuvnesh, I don't know if this may suit your needs, but google's search results for PDF's also provides a html version of the PDF. On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:37:15 +1000, CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The WE04 was great but unfortunately none of the speakers discussed the issue of making PDF files accessible. I am currently facing this problem. Does anyone have ideas about the tools in market to convert PDF into HTML or any other ways to make the PDF files accessible. Any thoughts would be welcome. Thanks Bhuvnesh Chaudhry * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. * ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Regards, Amit Karmakar http://karmakars.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
