Re: [WSG] div over flash
On 23 Oct 2008, at 15:35, kevin mcmonagle wrote: hi, forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list. Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css. If i use: param name=wmode value=opaque / For having things like dynamic menus over flash using javascript, wmode needs to be set to transparent. with z-index will it be sufficent? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** David Storey Chief Web Opener, Product Manager Opera Dragonfly, Consumer Product Manager Opera Core, W3C Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group member Consumer Product Management Developer Relations Opera Software ASA Oslo, Norway Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://my.opera.com/dstorey *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
I think it is: param name=wmode value=transparent / Everything else should work fine. hope this helped. -Manny On Oct 23, 2008, at 9:35 AM, kevin mcmonagle wrote: hi, forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list. Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css. If i use: param name=wmode value=opaque / with z-index will it be sufficent? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
kevin, make the value transparent. you can see an example i did of this here http://bowdenweb.com/work-de/index.html. when you hover over the nav, it dropsdown over the flash. i tried z-indexing as well, but the only way i could get it to work is through the example given. Albert On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:35 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list. Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css. If i use: param name=wmode value=opaque / with z-index will it be sufficent? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- J. Albert Bowden II *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
It is impossible to get a div sitting on top of flash in all browsers. Your best bet is to hide the flash while your overlay is showing and show it when it hides again. If the blank space where your flash was will be obvious you could set a background image similar-looking to the flash on it's container div. Mark 2008/10/23 kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list. Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css. If i use: param name=wmode value=opaque / with z-index will it be sufficent? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] div over flash
The YUI container library offers the iframe shim, built in for ie6. Watch the wmode:transparent if your flash movie contains actual content. Wmode:transparent makes it justifiably invisible to screen readers. It's basically telling the browser and screen reader the flash movie is for decoration and you can make other stuff obscure it. http://www.last-child.com/make-flash-accessible-to-screen-readers-in-transpa rent-window-mode/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Stickley Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:02 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] div over flash It is impossible to get a div sitting on top of flash in all browsers. Your best bet is to hide the flash while your overlay is showing and show it when it hides again. If the blank space where your flash was will be obvious you could set a background image similar-looking to the flash on it's container div. Mark 2008/10/23 kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list. Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css. If i use: param name=wmode value=opaque / with z-index will it be sufficent? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
Mark Stickley wrote: It is impossible to get a div sitting on top of flash in all browsers. hi mark, which browsers/versions would give me problems? Your best bet is to hide the flash while your overlay is showing and show it when it hides again. If the blank space where your flash was will be obvious you could set a background image similar-looking to the flash on it's container div. Thats a good idea actually the design im working on might allow for that with some tweaking Hi Albert, Whats the browser support like for your example that seems to work well? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
Ted Drake wrote: The YUI container library offers the iframe shim, built in for ie6. Watch the wmode:transparent if your flash movie contains actual content. Wmode:transparent makes it justifiably invisible to screen readers. It’s basically telling the browser and screen reader the flash movie is for decoration and you can make other stuff obscure it. http://www.last-child.com/make-flash-accessible-to-screen-readers-in-transparent-window-mode/ I did an i frame shim a long time ago, i though there might be a newer way now. Thanks on the heads up for the screen reader-dindnt know that. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_15523and Mark Stickley is absolutly wrong 2008/10/23 kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi, forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list. Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css. If i use: param name=wmode value=opaque / with z-index will it be sufficent? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
Kevin IE6, IE7, FF2, FF3, whatever the latest versions of Opera and Safari that are out. I'm kind of swamped right now, but if you need help, send me a link and i'll see if i can make a quick fix. Not only does it work, but it validates yo. if you use AIM: Bowdown81isdead or gtalk J. Albert Bowden Albert On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:35 AM, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Stickley wrote: It is impossible to get a div sitting on top of flash in all browsers. hi mark, which browsers/versions would give me problems? Your best bet is to hide the flash while your overlay is showing and show it when it hides again. If the blank space where your flash was will be obvious you could set a background image similar-looking to the flash on it's container div. Thats a good idea actually the design im working on might allow for that with some tweaking Hi Albert, Whats the browser support like for your example that seems to work well? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- J. Albert Bowden II *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
param name=wmode value=transparent / should do the trick, with z-index of course. I think this works on some browsers, but not everything It might not be possible in some browsers or with some older versions of flash player. (I guess also that there may be similar problems with other types of content shown by browser plugins) I would rather try to avoid attempting to put html content over the top of content shown by plugins where possible, ...though there are times this is hard to avoid - eg when adding flash content to an existing site with dropdown menus - in that case all I can do is to use wmode (as above) and also try to minimize the impact on usability in browsers where wmode does not work by making sure that there are other ways to get to items in any important navigation links that may end up under the flash.. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
