RE: [WSG] making form elements the same height

2007-05-25 Thread Taco Fleur
 PS. The form elements I was referring to are the text field and the submit
button.

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Subject: [WSG] making form elements the same height

Hi all,
 
I have a question I hope one of you might be able to answer.

http://www.clickfind.com.au/test-index.html

I am trying to get the form elements the same height, I would expect that
the following would do the trick;

input.text {
border: 1px solid #A9D46F;
height: 1.2em;
font-size: 1em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0.2em;
}
input.submit {
border: 1px solid #99;
height: 1.2em;
font-size: 1em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0.2em;
}

But it does not, and I do not understand why, I would like to understand why
it does not.

Also, is there any way to align the text on the left hand side of the text
field to the middle of the textfield?

Thanks in advance for any help.





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Re: [WSG] making form elements the same height

2007-05-25 Thread Nick Gleitzman


On 25 May 2007, at 5:18 PM, Taco Fleur wrote:


http://www.clickfind.com.au/test-index.html

I am trying to get the form elements the same height


Hi Taco

Form Submit buttons are system-level widgets - they're different shapes 
and sizes according to which browser/OS combination is in use. They're 
notoriously difficult to style, as in most instances, being generated 
at the system level, they just won't accept css styling. Have you 
thought about using a custom image, which you can make the size you 
want?


This is only a partial answer, of course, as an image (unless it's 
sized in ems or %) won't enlarge as the text is enlarged. You already 
have a problem in that regard, as one level of enlargement is enough to 
cause your Submit button to wrap to the next line... (I'm viewing in 
Safari/Mac - and the Submit button also doesn't resize with text - it's 
just pushed around.)


BTW, 5,712,590 million = 5,712,590,000,000

N
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RE: [WSG] making form elements the same height

2007-05-25 Thread Taco Fleur
Thanks guys and girls...
This is helpful.. Not the answers I was hoping for, but it certainly helps.

I am slowly building a JavaScript library that will replace the HTML
elements with elements that I can style, so it should eventually not be a
problem anymore. 

PS. :-) I had 6.5 Million there first, changed it and forgot to remove the
million, thanks for pointing it out though.
 BTW, 5,712,590 million = 5,712,590,000,000

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Sent: Friday, 25 May 2007 6:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] making form elements the same height


On 25 May 2007, at 5:18 PM, Taco Fleur wrote:

 http://www.clickfind.com.au/test-index.html

 I am trying to get the form elements the same height

Hi Taco

Form Submit buttons are system-level widgets - they're different shapes and
sizes according to which browser/OS combination is in use. They're
notoriously difficult to style, as in most instances, being generated at the
system level, they just won't accept css styling. Have you thought about
using a custom image, which you can make the size you want?

This is only a partial answer, of course, as an image (unless it's sized in
ems or %) won't enlarge as the text is enlarged. You already have a problem
in that regard, as one level of enlargement is enough to cause your Submit
button to wrap to the next line... (I'm viewing in Safari/Mac - and the
Submit button also doesn't resize with text - it's just pushed around.)

BTW, 5,712,590 million = 5,712,590,000,000

N
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http://www.omnivision.com.au/



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Re: [WSG] making form elements the same height

2007-05-25 Thread Katrina

Taco Fleur wrote:

Hi all,
 
I have a question I hope one of you might be able to answer.


http://www.clickfind.com.au/test-index.html

I am trying to get the form elements the same height, I would expect that
the following would do the trick;



That certainly got me!
I'm sorry I can't add much more to what Nick has said.

I don't know if this helps, but I think PPK has written on this topic:
http://www.quirksmode.org/css/tests/mozie_button.html

I hope that helps, to at least understand the phenomenon.

Kat



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Re: [WSG] making form elements the same height

2007-05-25 Thread Travis Hensgen

Hi Taco,

Styling form elements as you are hoping to do is not quite that  
simple, and a good place to read about this is in a recent article by  
Eric Meyer:

http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2007/05/15/formal-weirdness/

The crux of the article is that there are no standard guidelines for  
how browsers should respond to applying various CSS properties to  
form controls, and that even if one browser styles the controls how  
you would expect, another may not (and probably WILL not, given the  
current state of affairs).


That said, here's some advice:

* Don't apply a height to either the submit button, or the text  
input. Simply use font-size, and let the browser work out the height.


* Put Your email address: inside a label tag like so:
label for=emailAddressYour email address:/label

  Then you could style the label something like:

  label {
  line-height: 1.2em;
  display: block;
  float: left;
  }

  Hopefully then, your label will line up a bit better with the text  
input - you should provide that label tag anyway, for accessibility  
reasons.


* Don't expect that your submit button will ever match the height of  
the input field. If you really want this though, try making the font  
size of the submit button larger than the text field, you may be able  
to get it to match in a lot of browsers. Or you could use an input  
type=image... to get consistency across all browsers.


I hope this helps a bit. Forms are always a fairly tricky thing to  
style!


Good Luck!

Travis





On 25/05/2007, at 6:27 PM, Taco Fleur wrote:

 PS. The form elements I was referring to are the text field and  
the submit

button.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Friday, 25 May 2007 5:18 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] making form elements the same height

Hi all,

I have a question I hope one of you might be able to answer.

http://www.clickfind.com.au/test-index.html

I am trying to get the form elements the same height, I would  
expect that

the following would do the trick;

input.text {
border: 1px solid #A9D46F;
height: 1.2em;
font-size: 1em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0.2em;
}
input.submit {
border: 1px solid #99;
height: 1.2em;
font-size: 1em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0.2em;
}

But it does not, and I do not understand why, I would like to  
understand why

it does not.

Also, is there any way to align the text on the left hand side of  
the text

field to the middle of the textfield?

Thanks in advance for any help.





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