Re: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
Webmaster wrote: The far simpler way would be simpy to use: ol start=3 type=1 li class=MsoNormalText/li li class=MsoNormalText/li li class=MsoNormalText/li /ol This would render as: 3. Text 4. Text 5. Text The poster wants: 3.1. Text 3.2. Text 3.3. Text -- Ben Curtis : webwright bivia : a personal web studio http://www.bivia.com v: (818) 507-6613 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
There is something on this very topic in the WCAG: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#lists Cheers, Daniel NitscheOn 9/21/05, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to make list look like 3.1 text text 3.2 text text 3.3 text text 3.4 text text Instead of 1 text text 2 text text 3 text text 4 text text I am thinking NOT with plain markup, but I could be wrong (just checking). And how would someone else do this? Just use ul and put the numbering within the list item as text? Taco Fleur - Pacific Foxan industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 …http://www.pacificfox.com
RE: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
Daniel Nitsche There is something on this very topic in the WCAG: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#lists And the clincher on that still is Until either CSS2 is widely supported or user agents allow users to control rendering of lists through other means, authors should consider providing contextual clues in unnumbered nested lists. Another consideration is also that this seems to me, in this particular case, to contradict 6.1 Organize documents so they may be read without style sheets. For example, when an HTML document is rendered without associated style sheets, it must still be possible to read the document. If the numbering is set via CSS2, then without an associated style sheet the numbering won't match (if, for instance, you're doing a table of contents with the numbering reflecting the number given to sections/headings). Patrick __ Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
Hi Patrick, You wrote: ... still is Until either CSS2 is widely supported or user agents allow users to control rendering of lists through other means, authors should consider providing contextual clues in unnumbered nested lists. Especially since the information in the compound numbering could be looked upon as content anyhow. Another consideration is also that this seems to me, in this particular case, to contradict 6.1 Organize documents so they may be read without style sheets. For example, when an HTML document is rendered without associated style sheets, it must still be possible to read the document. If the numbering is set via CSS2, then without an associated style sheet the numbering won't match (if, for instance, you're doing a table of contents with the numbering reflecting the number given to sections/headings). Excellent point and a very appropriate concern if you are thinking of the visitor's need to be able to follow the organization of the document. Regards, Gene Falck [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
The far simpler way would be simpy to use: ol start=3 type=1li class=MsoNormalText/lili class=MsoNormalText/lili class=MsoNormalText/li/ol Works in IE and Firefox. Probably all the others too. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James EllisSent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:24 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3 HiYes there is, using "counter". Only works in Opera and KHTML browser (Konquerer, possibly Safari), though.http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/tests/css2/sec12-05a.htmCheersJames On 9/21/05, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to make list look like 3.1 text text 3.2 text text 3.3 text text 3.4 text text Instead of 1 text text 2 text text 3 text text 4 text text I am thinking NOT with plain markup, but I could be wrong (just checking). And how would someone else do this? Just use ul and put the numbering within the list item as text? Taco Fleur - Pacific Foxan industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 http://www.pacificfox.com
RE: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
The far simpler way would be simpy to use: ol start=3 type=1li class=MsoNormalText/lili class=MsoNormalText/lili class=MsoNormalText/li/ol Works in IE and Firefox. Probably all the others too. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James EllisSent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:24 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3 HiYes there is, using "counter". Only works in Opera and KHTML browser (Konquerer, possibly Safari), though.http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/tests/css2/sec12-05a.htmCheersJames On 9/21/05, Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to make list look like 3.1 text text 3.2 text text 3.3 text text 3.4 text text Instead of 1 text text 2 text text 3 text text 4 text text I am thinking NOT with plain markup, but I could be wrong (just checking). And how would someone else do this? Just use ul and put the numbering within the list item as text? Taco Fleur - Pacific Foxan industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 http://www.pacificfox.com
Re: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
Webmaster wrote: The far simpler way would be simpy to use: ol start=3 type=1 li class=MsoNormalText/li li class=MsoNormalText/li li class=MsoNormalText/li /ol MsoNormal? Somebody's been exporting from Word, eh? ;) Yes, that's the simplest way...shame though that this does not validate against XHTML 1.0 strict or higher, as start and type have been dropped. -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
Be nice. It's a common enough solution. MS don't get absolutely everything wrong, you know. :P -Original Message- From: Patrick H. Lauke MsoNormal? Somebody's been exporting from Word, eh? ;) Webmaster wrote: The far simpler way would be simpy to use: ol start=3 type=1 li class=MsoNormalText/li li class=MsoNormalText/li li class=MsoNormalText/li /ol ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] ol displaying 3.1 3.2 etc. instead of 1 2 3
Webmaster wrote: Be nice. It's a common enough solution. Sure...just worth pointing out that if you do use it, you either need to stick with HTML 4.01 or XHTML 1.0 Transitional, or claim strict validation and knowingly have invalid markup in your page. MS don't get absolutely everything wrong, you know. :P They should really quote their attributes though ;) -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
