RE: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
Good question Peter! Absolutely. The metadata is about the page not the site and should be unique (at least the title and description) for every page. Depends on how much metadata you use. This leads to a really deep discussion about metadata that we may have at some point, but in the mean time you may want to take a look at some of the metadata on the pages within http://www.gt.nsw.gov.au/ and then the AGLS Harvest Control List (HCL) at http://www.gt.nsw.gov.au/meta/ and the RDF summary for the other files in the site at http://www.gt.nsw.gov.au/meta/metadata.cfm Everything in this site (apart from the images used in the site design) has a fully compliant AGLS record that is generated in real time. If the client adds or adjusts a page then the embedded data and the HCL (including it's timestamp and version number (within that day)) are updated. I'm really anal about metadata being as correct as possible and others around me often think I go too far. Make it part of your workflow and it's easy! Build it thoughtfully into your CMS and most of it writes itself. Regards, Peter -Original Message- From: Universal Head [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] silly question about meta tags Dumb question but ... Do you repeat your META tags on every page of your site, or only the index page? Thanks Peter * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
Hi Peter, Put them on every page of your site and ideally they should be specific to that page...as in This page is about... type stuff. Nick Dumb question but ... Do you repeat your META tags on every page of your site, or only the index page? Thanks Peter * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
meta tags should generally be added to each page, listing keywords that are accurately relevant to the content on the page. Keep the list short and precise. Cheers Chris Blown PS. Not all search engines read nor care about meta keywords On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 15:16, Universal Head wrote: Dumb question but ... Do you repeat your META tags on every page of your site, or only the index page? Thanks Peter * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
Thanks for the replies. I didn't realise they should be specific to each page - I would set them up once and then repeat on every page. BTW, is there a site somewhere that describes them all? I have a few I use that I only half understand - 'Robots', for example, and 'MSSmartTagsPreventParsing' Peter x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerUniversal Head Design That Works. 7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore NSW 2048 Australia T (+612) 9517 1466 F (+612) 9565 4747 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] W www.universalhead.com
RE: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
PS. Not all search engines read nor care about meta keywords In fact, we believe that only one (not too significant) SE looks at them at all and they would be far down the decision list there anyway as they are perfect spambait for spamming the engines with incorrect metadata. There is some stuff in http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resourcecat16.cfm and also some links on http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm?uid=6D1B4A92-EAD2-3F25-BD362 3DE0FF80603 (you'll have to log in I'm afraid, can't find it on mail-archive.com, they seem to have lost a lot of stuff.. I'll let them know). P * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
http://literarymoose.info/=/synopsis/metadatum.xhtml http://literarymoose.info/=/destroy/metadatum.xhtml As with most of the Moose's work, this CSS technique only works in the most compliant of browsers. By adding an alternate style sheet you can actually view meta data on screen using this technique, very handy for checking keywords. Cheers Chris Blown On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 15:16, Universal Head wrote: Dumb question but ... Do you repeat your META tags on every page of your site, or only the index page? Thanks Peter * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
Universal Head wrote: Thanks for the replies. I didn't realise they should be specific to each page - I would set them up once and then repeat on every page. BTW, is there a site somewhere that describes them all? I have a few I use that I only half understand - 'Robots', for example, and 'MSSmartTagsPreventParsing' This page: http://vancouver-webpages.com/META/ gives a rather lengthy list, including a lot of proprietary stuff. -- Lindsay Evans. Developer, Red Square Productions. [p] 8596.4000 [f] 8596.4001 [w] www.redsquare.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
Peter You can add your own meta data if you want. (take a look at the macromedia.com website - http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/fail_load_fp7.htm as an e.g). This makes it really easy for internal tracking of pages, internal searches etc - as Peter F said, the external uses of keywords etc are minimal. If you are using PHP, check out the function get_meta_tags(filename) - it will pull out your meta data and plonk it into an array. The array keys will be the name meta entry, the values will be the content entry. You can then traverse the array in the normal way looking for useful stuff. Cheers James Universal Head wrote: BTW, is there a site somewhere that describes them all? I have a few I use that I only half understand - 'Robots', for example, and 'MSSmartTagsPreventParsing' * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
Interesting - so why do we all religiously add meta descriptions and keywords, not to mention all the other stuff? Curious. Peter On 26/02/2004, at 4:14 PM, Peter Firminger wrote: In fact, we believe that only one (not too significant) SE looks at them at all and they would be far down the decision list there anyway as they are perfect spambait for spamming the engines with incorrect metadata. x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerUniversal Head Design That Works. 7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore NSW 2048 Australia T (+612) 9517 1466 F (+612) 9565 4747 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] W www.universalhead.com
RE: [WSG] silly question about meta tags
Title: Message The following sites describe each of the metadata elements which Australian Government departments and agencies can use to improve the visibility and accessibility of their services and information over the Internet. The National Archives of Australia is the maintenance agency for the AGLS Metadata Standard. http://www.naa.gov.au/recordkeeping/gov_online/agls/summary.html - be sure to browse the links in the yellow box at the foot of the page. The AGLS standard is based upon the leading international online resource discovery metadata standard, the Dublin Core standard(http://dublincore.org/) The National Office for the Information Economy also has a Guide to minimum Web Standards: http://www.noie.gov.au/projects/egovernment/Better_Practice/MWSGuide/Metadata.htm Joanne FlynnWeb ManagerInformation Department Reserve Bank of Australia Visit Australia's central bank website: www.rba.gov.au -Original Message-From: Universal Head [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 26 February 2004 16:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [WSG] silly question about meta tags Thanks for the replies. I didn't realise they should be specific to each page - I would set them up once and then repeat on every page. BTW, is there a site somewhere that describes them all? I have a few I use that I only half understand - 'Robots', for example, and 'MSSmartTagsPreventParsing' Peter Universal Head Design That Works. 7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore NSW 2048 Australia T (+612) 9517 1466 F (+612) 9565 4747 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] W www.universalhead.com * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. *
