RE: [WSG]Font support chart?
> Mark, is that a promotion in your footer? No my business card has had that on it for a few years - its just that I've been told the my old sig was no longer cutting it Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG]Font support chart?
Impact is a big surprise and I thought Tahoma would be above Treb on the list. Mark, is that a promotion in your footer? Cheers James Ellis www.webqs.com --- WSG - http://webstandardsgroup.org | Web Standards Group syd::php - http://sydney.ug.php.net | Sydney PHP Developers --- #300 - http://www.sitepoint.com/articlelist/300 --- -- Original Message --- From: "Mark Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:59:27 +1000 Subject: RE: [WSG]Font support chart? > Russ I agree completely. > > The only reason I was curious was that we are looking at using text headings > that have some level of branding relevance & wondering what sort of > fonts we could experiment with. I had my doubts about Tahoma but it > could just scrape in. > > Font lists ending in a generic font family are an absolute must. > > Cheers > > Mark > > __ > Mark Stanton > Technical Director > Gruden Pty Ltd > Tel: 9956 6388 > Mob: 0410 458 201 > Fax: 9956 8433 > http://www.gruden.com > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * --- End of Original Message --- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG]Font support chart?
Russ I agree completely. The only reason I was curious was that we are looking at using text headings that have some level of branding relevance & wondering what sort of fonts we could experiment with. I had my doubts about Tahoma but it could just scrape in. Font lists ending in a generic font family are an absolute must. Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG]Font support chart?
Mark, These is handy figures!
Regardless of the figures, font family cascading is still important. Always
specify the font you want first, then (possibly) an option, and finally a
generic font family (serif, sans-serif, monospace, cursive, fantasy).
For example:
{ font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; }
{ font-family: times, "times new roman", serif; }
This means that if a user doesn¹t have the desired font, they will either
get a secondary font or at least a similar generic font.
Also note that font families with multiple words must be enclosed within
quotes.
Sorry for the lecture, everyone : (
Russ
> Thanks Lindsay
>
> I compiled this list into a bit of a chart & averaged the support across
> browsers. No fancy weightings have been added just win + mac + *nix / 3.
> Also no account was given to font families, just unique font names.
>
> The fonts that came out with more than 70% support are:
>
> Arial 90.30%
> Courier New 89.20%
> Times New Roman 80.13%
> Arial Black 79.57%
> Verdana 79.45%
> Comic Sans MS 77.81%
> Trebuchet MS 74.88%
> Impact 73.90%
> Georgia 71.58%
>
> After this it drops off pretty quickly to 30% and below. The full list is
> attached.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
>
> __
> Mark Stanton
> Technical Director
> Gruden Pty Ltd
> Tel: 9956 6388
> Mob: 0410 458 201
> Fax: 9956 8433
> http://www.gruden.com
>
Thanks
Russ
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RE: [WSG]Font support chart?
Thanks Lindsay I compiled this list into a bit of a chart & averaged the support across browsers. No fancy weightings have been added just win + mac + *nix / 3. Also no account was given to font families, just unique font names. The fonts that came out with more than 70% support are: Arial 90.30% Courier New 89.20% Times New Roman 80.13% Arial Black 79.57% Verdana 79.45% Comic Sans MS 77.81% Trebuchet MS74.88% Impact 73.90% Georgia 71.58% After this it drops off pretty quickly to 30% and below. The full list is attached. Cheers Mark __ Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com Title: Font Support Collated from www.codestyle.org's Combined font survey results (full). Font NameWinMac*NixAverage Arial91.13%93.60%86.17%90.30% Courier New90.63%88.67%88.30%89.20% Times New Roman77.57%86.21%76.60%80.13% Arial Black92.72%92.81%53.19%79.57% Verdana91.33%90.64%56.38%79.45% Comic Sans MS91.72%90.64%51.06%77.81% Trebuchet MS87.04%88.67%48.94%74.88% Impact91.63%83.25%46.81%73.90% Georgia77.97%85.71%51.06%71.58% Courier0.00%94.09%91.82%61.97% Helvetica0.00%95.57%85.45%60.34% Times0.00%84.73%75.45%53.39% Arial Narrow81.85%73.89%0.00%51.91% Tahoma90.13%60.87%0.00%50.33% Andale Mono32.60%78.82%38.30%49.91% Palatino0.00%81.77%63.83%48.53% New Century Schoolbook0.00%25.49%82.73%36.07% Arial Rounded MT Bold38.29%60.59%0.00%32.96% Haettenschweiler71.39%27.45%0.00%32.95% Monaco0.00%95.07%0.00%31.69% Brush Script MT31.61%61.58%0.00%31.06% Geneva0.00%91.63%0.00%30.54% Lucida Console90.23%0.00%0.00%30.08% Fixed0.00%0.00%88.18%29.39% Charcoal0.00%86.21%0.00%28.74% Chicago0.00%86.21%0.00%28.74% Bookman0.00%27.45%58.51%28.65% Lucida0.00%0.00%84.55%28.18% New York0.00%83.74%0.00%27.91% Terminal0.00%0.00%82.73%27.58% Utopia0.00%0.00%80.00%26.67% Apple Chancery0.00%79.31%0.00%26.44% Skia0.00%78.82%0.00%26.27% Lucida Sans Unicode78.56%0.00%0.00%26.19% Bookman Old Style78.07%0.00%0.00%26.02% Capitals0.00%77.83%0.00%25.94% Techno0.00%77.34%0.00%25.78% Textile0.00%76.35%0.00%25.45% Gadget0.00%75.86%0.00%25.29% Sand0.00%75.86%0.00%25.29% Century Gothic75.57%0.00%0.00%25.19% Hoefler Text0.00%75.37%0.00%25.12% Book Antiqua74.68%0.00%0.00%24.89% Garamond69.59%0.00%0.00%23.20% Charter0.00%0.00%69.09%23.03% Century Schoolbook L0.00%0.00%68.18%22.73% Zapf Chancery0.00%0.00%67.35%22.45% Nimbus Mono L0.00%0.00%63.64%21.21% Optima0.00%62.56%0.00%20.85% ClearlyU0.00%0.00%62.22%20.74% Futura0.00%61.08%0.00%20.36% Marlett60.98%0.00%0.00%20.33% Wide Latin28.71%30.54%0.00%19.75% Avantgarde0.00%0.00%58.51%19.50% Copperplate0.00%57.64%0.00%19.21% Lucida Grande0.00%57.14%0.00%19.05% Nimbus Roman No9 L0.00%0.00%56.36%18.79% MS Outlook39.71%6.00%0.00%15.24% Avant Garde0.00%43.84%0.00%14.61% Copperplate Gothic Bold43.67%0.00%0.00%14.56% Lucida Handwriting41.18%0.00%0.00%13.73% Century Schoolbook40.08%0.00%0.00%13.36% OCR A Extended39.08%0.00%0.00%13.03% Arial Unicode MS37.59%0.00%0.00%12.53% Calisto MT36.69%0.00%0.00%12.23% VT 1000.00%33.99%0.00%11.33% URW Bookman L0.00%0.00%33.64%11.21% URW Gothic L0.00%0.00%33.64%11.21% Helvetica Narrow0.00%13.73%19.15%10.96% URW Chancery L0.00%0.00%32.73%10.91% URW Palladio L0.00%0.00%30.91%10.30% Britannic Bold29.81%0.00%0.00%9.94% Algerian29.11%0.00%0.00%9.70% Clean0.00%0.00%29.09%9.70% Abadi MT Condensed Light28.22%0.00%0.00%9.41% Playbill28.22%0.00%0.00%9.41% Footlight MT Light27.32%0.00%0.00%9.11% Matura MT Script Capitals27.12%0.00%0.00%9.04% Colonna MT26.72%0.00%0.00%8.91% American Typewriter0.00%25.49%0.00%8.50% Papyrus0.00%25.49%0.00%8.50% News Gothic MT24.23%0.00%0.00%8.08% Didot0.00%21.57%0.00%7.19% Helvetica Neue0.00%21.57%0.00%7.19% Herculanum0.00%21.57%0.00%7.19% Kino MT20.14%0.00%0.00%6.71% URW Grotesk T0.00%0.00%20.00%6.67% Big Caslon0.00%19.61%0.00%6.54% Marker Felt0.00%19.61%0.00%6.54% Zapfino0.00%19.61%0.00%6.54% Lucidabright0.00%0.00%18.18%6.06% Braggadocio18.05%0.00%0.00%6.02% URW Antiqua T0.00%0.00%16.92%5.64% Lucidatypewriter0.00%0.00%16.36%5.45% Desdemona15.85%0.00%0.00%5.28% Baskerville0.00%15.69%0.00%5.23% Charter BT0.00%0.00%15.45%5.15% Monotype.com14.77%0.00%0.00%4.92% Nimbus Roman Sans L0.00%0.00%13.64%4.55% Courier Regular0.00%11.76%0.00%3.92% Osaka0.00%9.80%0.00%3.27% Caslon0.00%0.00%6.67%2.22% Minion Web5.03%0.00%0.00%1.68% Heisei Kaku Gothic0.00%1.96%0.00%0.65% Heisei Mincho0.00%1.96%0.00%0.65% Gill Sans0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%
RE: [WSG]Font support chart?
You can try the Code Style Font Sampler: http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/index.shtml 'Standard' is a funny term for fonts, too, as things like Office & IE install heaps of additional fonts. -- Lindsay Evans. Developer, Red Square Productions. [p] 8596.4000 [f] 8596.4001 [w] www.redsquare.com.au > -Original Message- > From: Mark Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 11:36 AM > To: Sydney Web Standards Group > Subject: [WSG]Font support chart? > > > Does anyone know of a font support chart that lists which fonts > are standard > on which platforms? Maybe Russ could quickly knock up a Font-o-matic? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
