Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
Hi It is the State Library of WA. Looking further into our stats, over one third of our visitors come from the 80 public access machines around the building, which accounts for the heavy bias of IE7 on windows. Making these stats unrepresentative, sorry I did not expect that many when I start using them. An equal number are from within WA, with a large number of visitors from the education (schools and universities) and government sectors as well as local libraries. The remaining 30% are evenly split between the rest of Australia and the rest of the world. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
In my case, the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was representative of the internet as a whole. The bigger of the two sites I've used is a radio station. It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats. All I was saying is it's the first time I've seen IE as not the top browser. (one swallow does not a summer make!) It's clear from this discussion that the numbers are all over the place. There are people at the radio station who try to tell me that the world is going mac and we ought to be replacing our network to macs. I say these stats don't support that, at least in our case, and whether or not we should replace our network to macs needs to be for a reason other than 'that's what everyone else is using'! (which was never a good reason in the first place!) There were those who were saying not all that long ago that IE was a gonner, and we'd all best pay attention to Opera. Then along came Firefox, now I'd suggest it's anyone's race and the main contenders are IE, Firefox, Chrome and all the others together add up to a long way behind. The significance for us as web developers is that all this competition is tending towards standardisation. If things had been different, it could easily have gone along the lines of our browser is better because it has all these proprietary commands it understands. Remember how it was in the days when Netscape and IE were the only ones on the block? They would each try to outdo each other with new features they were developing and the whole idea of standardisation was a pipe dream. We had to develop a IE version and a Netscape version of our sites. Now, the browsers are righting with each other to be more standard than the others. THAT makes life a LOT easier for us! As long as no one has any overpowering majority, they all have to pay attention to each other. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Al Sparber Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 4:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library site, IE7 rules and Chrome is 0.5% Browser Website IE7/IE6 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20) Firefox 9.29% Safari 2.17% Chrome0.47% Opera 0.27% Fascinating. Can you provide some demographic context to this library site? -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop The Ultimate DW Menu System *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com wrote: In my case, the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was representative of the internet as a whole. The bigger of the two sites I've used is a radio station. It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats. More stats (30m visits over a month, demographic of pretty much everyone): IE7 - 52% IE6 - 23% FF3 - 17% Safari - 3% FF2 - 2.5% Chrome - 0.8% Opera - 0.5% - Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
You don't by any chance use chrome yourself while you're developing? I noticed that I mainly use Firefox and I had to stop going back to the site after it was built to allow the data / statistics to clean themselves of my bias. William Donovan mobile: 0403 263 284 2009/3/3 Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com In my case, the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was representative of the internet as a whole. The bigger of the two sites I've used is a radio station. It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats. All I was saying is it's the first time I've seen IE as not the top browser. (one swallow does not a summer make!) It's clear from this discussion that the numbers are all over the place. There are people at the radio station who try to tell me that the world is going mac and we ought to be replacing our network to macs. I say these stats don't support that, at least in our case, and whether or not we should replace our network to macs needs to be for a reason other than 'that's what everyone else is using'! (which was never a good reason in the first place!) There were those who were saying not all that long ago that IE was a gonner, and we'd all best pay attention to Opera. Then along came Firefox, now I'd suggest it's anyone's race and the main contenders are IE, Firefox, Chrome and all the others together add up to a long way behind. The significance for us as web developers is that all this competition is tending towards standardisation. If things had been different, it could easily have gone along the lines of our browser is better because it has all these proprietary commands it understands. Remember how it was in the days when Netscape and IE were the only ones on the block? They would each try to outdo each other with new features they were developing and the whole idea of standardisation was a pipe dream. We had to develop a IE version and a Netscape version of our sites. Now, the browsers are righting with each other to be more standard than the others. THAT makes life a LOT easier for us! As long as no one has any overpowering majority, they all have to pay attention to each other. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Al Sparber Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 4:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library site, IE7 rules and Chrome is 0.5% Browser Website IE7/IE6 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20) Firefox 9.29% Safari 2.17% Chrome0.47% Opera 0.27% Fascinating. Can you provide some demographic context to this library site? -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop The Ultimate DW Menu System *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
Tesco's (a major UK online retailer) stats concur with Matt's results within 1%. mike From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Pennell Sent: 03 March 2009 11:52 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.commailto:w...@afpwebworks.com wrote: In my case, the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was representative of the internet as a whole. The bigger of the two sites I've used is a radio station. It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats. More stats (30m visits over a month, demographic of pretty much everyone): IE7 - 52% IE6 - 23% FF3 - 17% Safari - 3% FF2 - 2.5% Chrome - 0.8% Opera - 0.5% - Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** This is a confidential email. Tesco may monitor and record all emails. The views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not Tesco. Tesco Stores Limited Company Number: 519500 Registered in England Registered Office: Tesco House, Delamare Road, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire EN8 9SL VAT Registration Number: GB 220 4302 31 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
I use a couple of sources but here are my best 2: This one uses 6 different sources to build it's list http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat.htm And W3C Schools: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Lets not forget thought that Mike is sampling his site. Like the W3C Schools site, they receive a particular type of user, as would other sites. William Donovan mobile: 0403 263 284 2009/3/3 Foskett, Mike mike.fosk...@uk.tesco.com Tesco’s (a major UK online retailer) stats concur with Matt’s results within 1%. mike *From:* li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Pennell *Sent:* 03 March 2009 11:52 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com wrote: In my case, the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was representative of the internet as a whole. The bigger of the two sites I've used is a radio station. It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats. More stats (30m visits over a month, demographic of pretty much everyone): IE7 - 52% IE6 - 23% FF3 - 17% Safari - 3% FF2 - 2.5% Chrome - 0.8% Opera - 0.5% - Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- This is a confidential email. Tesco may monitor and record all emails. The views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not Tesco. Tesco Stores Limited Company Number: 519500 Registered in England Registered Office: Tesco House, Delamare Road, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire EN8 9SL VAT Registration Number: GB 220 4302 31 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
That is fine with me. I always test it with new designs along with IE5.5 6 7, Opera, Firefox ans Safari. I have to do all of these tests on Ms Vista although I would love to one day have a Mac as well. Sent from my Centro Wireless Device. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com Subj: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE Date: Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:29 pm Size: 8K To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Re: [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest For the first time since I started building web sites, IE is not the most prominent server on my two highest traffic sites. Google Chrome now amounts to over half the traffic on these sites. Not sure what that means for us as web developers, but it would certainly be significant for Microsoft people if it was translated across the web. Of course other sites will have a different pattern, depending on the audience. On these two sites, the breakdown is like this: Unknown: 1.86% IE: 38.85% Bots,Spiders: 1.47% Firefox: 4.91% Google Chrome: 51.35% Opera: 0.72% Safari: 0.46% Netscape: 0.22% Other: 0.15% - Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org*** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
Enough people have told me their figures are completely different to mine, but I don't much care about that. The point is the same - while IE is no longer the towering majority in the web browser wars, we have a fighting chance of bringing sanity to browsers. If IE7 became the 80%-90% browser like IE5 once was, then at Microsoft they'll be starting to say once more we don't have to care about standards - we ARE the standard and everyone else will have to match what we do! Thankfully, Firefox and Chrome are going to ensure Microsoft doesn't get into that position again. TO answer your specific question, William, yes I use Chrome myself while I'm developing but i hardly ever browse the site. I usually browse the development version of this site while I'm working on it, and only ever go to the production version of the site to check a page I've just uploaded is the same as on my dev machine. So my own browsing is not significant in those numbers. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of William Donovan Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:54 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE You don't by any chance use chrome yourself while you're developing? I noticed that I mainly use Firefox and I had to stop going back to the site after it was built to allow the data / statistics to clean themselves of my bias. William Donovan mobile: 0403 263 284 2009/3/3 Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com In my case, the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was representative of the internet as a whole. The bigger of the two sites I've used is a radio station. It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats. All I was saying is it's the first time I've seen IE as not the top browser. (one swallow does not a summer make!) It's clear from this discussion that the numbers are all over the place. There are people at the radio station who try to tell me that the world is going mac and we ought to be replacing our network to macs. I say these stats don't support that, at least in our case, and whether or not we should replace our network to macs needs to be for a reason other than 'that's what everyone else is using'! (which was never a good reason in the first place!) There were those who were saying not all that long ago that IE was a gonner, and we'd all best pay attention to Opera. Then along came Firefox, now I'd suggest it's anyone's race and the main contenders are IE, Firefox, Chrome and all the others together add up to a long way behind. The significance for us as web developers is that all this competition is tending towards standardisation. If things had been different, it could easily have gone along the lines of our browser is better because it has all these proprietary commands it understands. Remember how it was in the days when Netscape and IE were the only ones on the block? They would each try to outdo each other with new features they were developing and the whole idea of standardisation was a pipe dream. We had to develop a IE version and a Netscape version of our sites. Now, the browsers are righting with each other to be more standard than the others. THAT makes life a LOT easier for us! As long as no one has any overpowering majority, they all have to pay attention to each other. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Al Sparber Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 4:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library site, IE7 rules and Chrome is 0.5% Browser Website IE7/IE6 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20) Firefox 9.29% Safari 2.17% Chrome0.47% Opera 0.27% Fascinating. Can you provide some demographic context to this library site? -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop The Ultimate DW Menu System *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, William Donovan donovan.will...@gmail.comwrote: You don't by any chance use chrome yourself while you're developing? I noticed that I mainly use Firefox and I had to stop going back to the site after it was built to allow the data / statistics to clean themselves of my bias. You can (and should) filter out your own visits by IP address within Analytics reports. - Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
As I said I hardly ever browse the production site. It's hardly worth the effort.Out of the 54,000 page views in the figures I was quoting earlier, my own browsing would account for maybe 50 . Hardly more than that - I do my development off line using my own dev server, then only check a page looks like it's supposed to after I upload it. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Pennell Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 12:36 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, William Donovan donovan.will...@gmail.com wrote: You don't by any chance use chrome yourself while you're developing? I noticed that I mainly use Firefox and I had to stop going back to the site after it was built to allow the data / statistics to clean themselves of my bias. You can (and should) filter out your own visits by IP address within Analytics reports. - Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com Hi It is the State Library of WA. Looking further into our stats, over one third of our visitors come from the 80 public access machines around the building, which accounts for the heavy bias of IE7 on windows. Making these stats unrepresentative, sorry I did not expect that many when I start using them. An equal number are from within WA, with a large number of visitors from the education (schools and universities) and government sectors as well as local libraries. The remaining 30% are evenly split between the rest of Australia and the rest of the world. Thanks, Nick. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com wrote: Google Chrome now amounts to over half the traffic on these sites. Wow, that's the first time I've seen Chrome over 4%. Why are these stats so scewed, if I may ask? -- Blake http://www.blakehaswell.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
Oops.There's a senior moment. Of course I mean IE is not the highest traffic BROWSER on these two sites of mine, not SERVER. Sorry. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mike Kear Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 12:03 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE For the first time since I started building web sites, IE is not the most prominent server on my two highest traffic sites. Google Chrome now amounts to over half the traffic on these sites. Not sure what that means for us as web developers, but it would certainly be significant for Microsoft people if it was translated across the web. Of course other sites will have a different pattern, depending on the audience. On these two sites, the breakdown is like this: Unknown: 1.86% IE: 38.85% Bots,Spiders: 1.47% Firefox: 4.91% Google Chrome: 51.35% Opera: 0.72% Safari: 0.46% Netscape: 0.22% Other: 0.15% - Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1974 - Release Date: 02/26/09 14:51:00 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
How big is the sample? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com wrote: For the first time since I started building web sites, IE is not the most prominent server on my two highest traffic sites. Google Chrome now amounts to over half the traffic on these sites. Not sure what that means for us as web developers, but it would certainly be significant for Microsoft people if it was translated across the web. Of course other sites will have a different pattern, depending on the audience. On these two sites, the breakdown is like this: Unknown: 1.86% IE: 38.85% Bots,Spiders: 1.47% Firefox: 4.91% Google Chrome: 51.35% Opera: 0.72% Safari: 0.46% Netscape: 0.22% Other: 0.15% - Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- James Ducker Web Developer http://www.studioj.net.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
My blog has similar stats except it is Firefox over 50%, Safari about 10%, and Chrome around 5% I am thinking somehow Chrome and Firefox got swap around somehow? 2009/3/3 Blake haswel...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com wrote: Google Chrome now amounts to over half the traffic on these sites. Wow, that's the first time I've seen Chrome over 4%. Why are these stats so scewed, if I may ask? -- Blake http://www.blakehaswell.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Nick Cowie http://nickcowie.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
hmmm - this is not reflected on our main site... from the past three days: 1. Internet Explorer 642,173 61.98% 2. Firefox 286,669 27.67% 3. Safari 89,030 8.59% 4. Chrome 11,195 1.08% which is, I imagine, par for a 'mainstream' site. -- Andrew Harris and...@woowoowoo.com http://www.woowoowoo.com ~~~ * ~~~ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
Mike Kear wrote: For the first time since I started building web sites, IE is not the most prominent server on my two highest traffic sites. There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. -- Benjamin Disraeli (1804 - 1881) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
It's less than 1% this year at my site - a university library. regards Mark Mark Huppert Library Web Development Integrated Library Management System Coordinator Division of Information R.G. Menzies Building (#2) The Australian National University ACTON ACT 0200 T: +61 02 6125 2752 F: +61 02 6125 4063 W: http://anulib.anu.edu.au/about/ CRICOS Provider #00120C -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Harris Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 1:31 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE hmmm - this is not reflected on our main site... from the past three days: 1. Internet Explorer 642,173 61.98% 2. Firefox 286,669 27.67% 3. Safari 89,030 8.59% 4. Chrome 11,195 1.08% which is, I imagine, par for a 'mainstream' site. -- Andrew Harris and...@woowoowoo.com http://www.woowoowoo.com ~~~ * ~~~ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
Mike Kear wrote: For the first time since I started building web sites, IE is not the most prominent browser on my two highest traffic sites. Of course other sites will have a different pattern, depending on the audience. Not entirely new, but much broader... http://www.xitimonitor.com/en-us/browsers-barometer/browsers-barometer-november-2008/index-1-2-3-153.html regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library site, IE7 rules and Chrome is 0.5% Browser Website IE7/IE6 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20) Firefox 9.29% Safari 2.17% Chrome0.47% Opera 0.27% More interesting are the wifi browsers, mainly netbooks and inexpensive laptops, which are as likely to be Chinese language as English Browser WifiIE7/IE6 Internet Explorer 69.56% (67/33) Firefox20.42% Safari 8.64% (Mac + iPod + iPhone + Symbian) Opera 1.09% Chrome 0.07% Blazer 0.06% Playstation Portable 0.05% IE6 has gone from 1 in 5 on the regular site to 1 in 3 of all IE connections in this sample of 10k. Of interest Chrome on Windows is only slightly more popular than Blazer or PSP (and less than Safari on Symbian or IE8) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library site, IE7 rules and Chrome is 0.5% Browser Website IE7/IE6 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20) Firefox 9.29% Safari 2.17% Chrome0.47% Opera 0.27% Fascinating. Can you provide some demographic context to this library site? -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop The Ultimate DW Menu System *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
I don't where Nick is from, but part of the explanation in our case is hits from computer labs on campus. The biggest set of labs have IE, Firefox and Safari but Chrome is not in the build. I would humbly suggest that a blog site for geeks will naturally get lots hits from the latest cutting-edge whatever. Sites like that do not represent the general population very accurately. regards Mark Mark Huppert Library Web Development Integrated Library Management System Coordinator Division of Information R.G. Menzies Building (#2) The Australian National University ACTON ACT 0200 T: +61 02 6125 2752 F: +61 02 6125 4063 W: http://anulib.anu.edu.au/about/ CRICOS Provider #00120C -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Al Sparber Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 4:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library site, IE7 rules and Chrome is 0.5% Browser Website IE7/IE6 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20) Firefox 9.29% Safari 2.17% Chrome0.47% Opera 0.27% Fascinating. Can you provide some demographic context to this library site? -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop The Ultimate DW Menu System *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE
From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library site, IE7 rules and Chrome is 0.5% Browser Website IE7/IE6 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20) Firefox 9.29% Safari 2.17% Chrome0.47% Opera 0.27% Fascinating. Can you provide some demographic context to this library site? -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop The Ultimate DW Menu System *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
