RE: [WSG] IE5 Mac Doosey

2004-03-23 Thread Jeff - Accessibility 1st








This page shows how you can target just
IE5 for Mac:

http://www.sam-i-am.com/work/sandbox/css/mac_ie5_hack.html



hope this helps.





Cheers



Jeff Lowder 

Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au

Blog: www.accessibility1st.com.au/journal/





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I didn't make this site,
but I'm picking up the pieces. The navigation uses CSS rollovers which seem to
work fine in most browsers, but completely stuff up in IE5 Mac. As in no
navigation appears at all.

I'm not well versed in css-rollovers (or the quirks of IE5 Mac), so before I
plunge into this jungle with a blunt machete, can anyone point out the
five-lane highway next to it - so to speak?

Site:
http://www.polariswireless.com
CSS:
http://www.polariswireless.com/css/style.css

Many thanks
Peter

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Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac Doosey

2004-03-23 Thread Hugh Todd
Pete,

You might be better to start again. The author is fooling around with 
background images for the menu, making the text disappear with a 
span. Farhner image replacement? Better to give that the boot.

-Hugh

PS No idea why IE Mac isn't seeing the images.

I'm not well versed in css-rollovers (or the quirks of IE5 Mac), so 
before I plunge into this jungle with a blunt machete, can anyone 
point out the five-lane highway next to it - so to speak?
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Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac Doosey

2004-03-23 Thread Universal Head
Thanks Hugh but the client doesn't want to pay for that at this stage. He just wants to get it 'fixed' to work in IE5 Mac. Bummer I know.

P


On 24/03/2004, at 12:49 PM, Hugh Todd wrote:

Pete,

You might be better to start again. The author is fooling around with background images for the menu, making the text disappear with a span>. Farhner image replacement? Better to give that the boot.

-Hugh

PS No idea why IE Mac isn't seeing the images.

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RE: [WSG] IE5 Mac Doosey

2004-03-23 Thread Nick Cowie
Peter wrote:

Thanks anyway. Any other ideas folks? 

I have got a similar problem with IE5.2 on the Mac
A navigation bar (div id=one) that  is horiziontal on all other browsers is vertical 
in IE5.2 on the Mac.

Fortunately another very similar navigation bar (div id=two) worked as expected.

The difference between the two was the holding div (div id=one) was absolute 
positioned inside a relative position div.  Where as (div id=two) was a relative 
positioned inside a relative position div.  Changing (div id=one) to relative 
positioned fixed the problem.

What the problem appears to be is IE5.2 on Mac can not float items that are inside a 
absolutely positioned div.

Nick

The code if any one is interested.

div id=one
spana href=#link 1/a/span
spana href=#link 2/a/span
spana href=#link 3/a/span
/div

#one {
position: absolute;
bottom: 0;
left: 0;
background-color:#666;
width: auto;
clear: both;
height: 1.8em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}

#one span {
display: block;
width: 7em;
float: left; 
padding: 0.3em 0 0.3em 0; 
}

#one a {
/* main links */
height: 1%;
color: #06f;
padding: 0.3em 0.5em 0.3em 0.5em;
text-decoration: none; 
}



div id=two
spana href=#link 1/a/span
spana href=#link 2/a/span
spana href=#link 3/a/span
/div 

#two {
/* holds bottom links */
position: relative;
background-color:#e8e8e8;
width: auto;
clear: both;
height: 1.8em;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border-top: 1px solid #666;
border-bottom: 1px solid #666;
font-size: 0.82em;
}

#two span {
/* controls padding and size of  bottom links */
display: block;
width: 7em;
float: left; 
padding: 0.3em 0 0.3em 0;
}

#two span a {
/*  bottom links */
padding: 0.3em 0.3em 0.3em 0.6em;
}
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Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac Doosey

2004-03-23 Thread Universal Head
Curses, still no luck! No absolute positioning in this case.

Help me obiwan! I've run out of ideas! 

Peter


On 24/03/2004, at 2:07 PM, Nick Cowie wrote:

What the problem appears to be is IE5.2 on Mac can not float items that are inside a absolutely positioned div.

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Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac Doosey

2004-03-23 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Peter

yes it doesn't show in IE5 Mac and this bowser is very touchy with heights in percents.  I think  you need to define the height in #mainnav and remove the height and width 100% from the descendant a> element but I'd also scrap display block and let your li>s flow inline.  The links are probably there in block but the hidden overflow rule is hiding them.  Safari is showing them but it is a much more forgiving browser.

Leo

On Tuesday, March 23, 2004, at 07:40  PM, Universal Head wrote:

I didn't make this site, but I'm picking up the pieces. The navigation uses CSS rollovers which seem to work fine in most browsers, but completely stuff up in IE5 Mac. As in no navigation appears at all.

I'm not well versed in css-rollovers (or the quirks of IE5 Mac), so before I plunge into this jungle with a blunt machete, can anyone point out the five-lane highway next to it - so to speak?

Site:
http://www.polariswireless.com
CSS:
http://www.polariswireless.com/css/style.css

Many thanks
Peter

Universal Head 
Design That Works.

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Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac Doosey

2004-03-23 Thread Hugh Todd
Pete,

Try taking out all the overflow: hidden and see what happens.

-Hugh

Curses, still no luck! No absolute positioning in this case.

Help me obiwan! I've run out of ideas!
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Re: [WSG] IE5 Mac Doosey

2004-03-23 Thread Universal Head
Once again the remarkable Hugh comes through with the goods. Hugh, you deserve a knighthood.

Why does this work? I don't know! And frankly ... I don't care! ;)

Thanks mate
Peter


On 24/03/2004, at 3:18 PM, Hugh Todd wrote:

Pete,

Try taking out all the overflow: hidden and see what happens.

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