Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
Thanks for all of your help! MATTHOM On 5/7/05, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi The WDG HTML 4.0 reference is a good guide to determine these things: http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/blockquote.html Cheers James ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
On 06-May-05 16:57, Lukasz Grabun wrote: Roger Johansson wrote: Unless I'm misreading the W3C Recommendation, blockquote elements can only have block-level content. That makes the second example incorrect. From http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2 : So yes, the p (or some other block-level element) is necessary, and it goes inside the blockquote element. Have a look: http://grabun.com/tmp/block-no-p.html That page's doctype is Transitional, not Strict. The OP was speaking of the Strict doctype, if memory serves.. -- __ Thomas Ditmarszarggg [at] zarggg [dot] net KeyID: 0x2FAAE151 http://zarggg.net/blog2/index.php -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
Hi The WDG HTML 4.0 reference is a good guide to determine these things: http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/block/blockquote.html Cheers James ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
Matt Thommes wrote: blockquotepTEXT/p/blockquote blockquoteTEXT/blockquote - Is the p even necessary? If so, does it go INSIDE or OUTSIDE the blockquote? Both are correct. I use the former one when there are more than one paragraph to cite. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
On 6 maj 2005, at 21.53, Lukasz Grabun wrote: Matt Thommes wrote: blockquotepTEXT/p/blockquote blockquoteTEXT/blockquote - Is the p even necessary? If so, does it go INSIDE or OUTSIDE the blockquote? Both are correct. I use the former one when there are more than one paragraph to cite. Unless I'm misreading the W3C Recommendation, blockquote elements can only have block-level content. That makes the second example incorrect. From http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2 : !ELEMENT BLOCKQUOTE - - (%block;|SCRIPT)+ -- long quotation -- BLOCKQUOTE is for long quotations (block-level content) and Q is intended for short quotations (inline content) that don't require paragraph breaks. So yes, the p (or some other block-level element) is necessary, and it goes inside the blockquote element. /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
Matt Thommes wrote: Hello, I'm having some trouble deciding if certain blockquote scenarios are valid, or semantically correct. Example 1: pblockquoteTEXT/blockquote/p invalid -- a P can only contain inline elements blockquotepTEXT/p/blockquote valid blockquoteTEXT/blockquote invalid -- BLOCKQUOTE can only contain block elements - Is the p even necessary? If so, does it go INSIDE or OUTSIDE the blockquote? This is easily determined, BTW, by *reading the HTML spec*. :-) FWIW, -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
Roger Johansson wrote: Unless I'm misreading the W3C Recommendation, blockquote elements can only have block-level content. That makes the second example incorrect. In fact, our friend the W3C HTML validator confirms that. So yes, paragraph (or other block level element) inside the blockquote. P -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
Roger Johansson wrote: Unless I'm misreading the W3C Recommendation, blockquote elements can only have block-level content. That makes the second example incorrect. From http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2 : So yes, the p (or some other block-level element) is necessary, and it goes inside the blockquote element. Have a look: http://grabun.com/tmp/block-no-p.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
On 6 maj 2005, at 22.57, Lukasz Grabun wrote: Roger Johansson wrote: Unless I'm misreading the W3C Recommendation, blockquote elements can only have block-level content. That makes the second example incorrect. From http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2 : So yes, the p (or some other block-level element) is necessary, and it goes inside the blockquote element. Have a look: http://grabun.com/tmp/block-no-p.html Ah. It's allowed in Transitional, but not in Strict. I never use Transitional these days so I didn't think about that, but yes, that document is valid. /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Valid blockquote scenarios?
Roger Johansson wrote: Unless I'm misreading the W3C Recommendation, blockquote elements can only have block-level content. That makes the second example incorrect. From http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#h-9.2.2 : So yes, the p (or some other block-level element) is necessary, and it goes inside the blockquote element. Have a look: http://grabun.com/tmp/block-no-p.html Valid Transitional, but not Strict (1.0). ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **