Re: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash

2006-02-25 Thread Charles Eaton

Good test page!
In fact it pointed up the fact that on a Mac, Opera will show your WMV 
file, ...but Safari won't.

Can anyone shine a little light on that?
(Sorry, that Q is off tropic, ...so what is SOP on this list?)
-chuck
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On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:05 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html

Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several 
questions recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in 
IE and not in FF. Here is my test page with several examples.


- Original Message - From: "Martin Heiden" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Sean Jones" 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash



Sean,

Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote:

SJ> scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on 
how to embed

SJ> flash using CSS.

I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these
methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed
flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also
use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is
really no need to do so.)

Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for
your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that 
Jesse

already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single
maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, , or simple Dreamweaver
templates to do so.)

If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional
comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the
specific browsers:


 type="application/x-shockwave-flash">







 

This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments.
IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about
that.

I hope, I could help you.

Martin.

PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed
flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't
imagine that.

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RE: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash

2006-02-24 Thread ByteDreams
 
I like your test page.  I find it quite useful.  I've bookmarked it to share
it with some friends.

Eileen Russell
http://www.bytedreams.com

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http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html

Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several questions
recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in IE and not in
FF. Here is my test page with several examples.

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Heiden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sean Jones" 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash


> Sean,
>
> Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote:
>
> SJ> scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to 
> embed
> SJ> flash using CSS.
>
> I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these
> methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed
> flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also
> use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is
> really no need to do so.)
>
> Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for
> your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse
> already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single
> maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS,  favourite server side programming language her>, or simple Dreamweaver
> templates to do so.)
>
> If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional
> comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the
> specific browsers:
>
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
>
> This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments.
> IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about
> that.
>
> I hope, I could help you.
>
> Martin.
>
> PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed
> flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't
> imagine that.
>
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Re: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash

2006-02-24 Thread sharron

http://www.designbyatfb.com/test/swftest2.html

Don't wuite understand what you are asking, but lol, asked several questions 
recently myself about valid swf files and why one worked in IE and not in 
FF. Here is my test page with several examples.


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Heiden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Sean Jones" 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:34 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash



Sean,

Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote:

SJ> scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to 
embed

SJ> flash using CSS.

I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these
methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed
flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also
use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is
really no need to do so.)

Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for
your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse
already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single
maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, , or simple Dreamweaver
templates to do so.)

If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional
comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the
specific browsers:


 






 

This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments.
IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about
that.

I hope, I could help you.

Martin.

PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed
flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't
imagine that.

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Re[2]: [WSG] CSS and Flash

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Heiden
Sean,

Friday, February 24, 2006, 8:08:57 PM, you wrote:

SJ> scroll down to the section on embed multimedia, it has info on how to embed
SJ> flash using CSS.

I really doubt that it is possible to embed flash by CSS. All these
methods use the (X)HTML object tag. And this is mandatory to embed
flash or other multimedia content into HTML pages. (Ok, you could also
use the non standard embed tag for Netscape and Co., but there is
really no need to do so.)

Coming back to Mark's question, my answer is no, you can't use CSS for
your needs. The best thing you can do is using the UFO method that Jesse
already proposed, if you want to manage all your pages from one single
maintenance point. (There are other options like CMS, , or simple Dreamweaver
templates to do so.)

If you don't want to use JavaScript for that, you can use conditional
comments for showing/hiding the right/wrong object attributes to the
specific browsers:


  

 
 
 
 
 
  

This will validate, but it uses IE proprietary conditional comments.
IMHO it is a valid and safe method, but there are other opinions about
that.

I hope, I could help you.

Martin.

PS: If anyone want to try to convince me, that it is possible to embed
flash by using CSS, I'm very interested in that solution. But I can't
imagine that.

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