Re: [wsjt-devel] WSPR crashes, error starting rx thread

2014-12-19 Thread ki7mt
Hi Alan,

I did a few more checks on your python3-numpy setup. That portion looks
correct ( when using /usr/bin/f2py3.2 ). Specifying it's location with
./autogen .. .. .. should work:


Additional Info:
command: /usr/bin/f2py3.2 --help-link

f2py_info:
 FOUND:
 sources = ['/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/numpy/f2py/src/fortranobject.c']
 include_dirs = ['/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/numpy/f2py/src']

fftw_info:
  libraries fftw3 not found in /usr/local/lib
  libraries fftw3 not found in /usr/lib
  FOUND:
libraries = ['fftw3']
library_dirs = ['/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf']
define_macros = [('SCIPY_FFTW3_H', None)]
include_dirs = ['/usr/include']



This also looks correct.

cat /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/numpy/f2py/f2py2e.py
..
..


So, test this command:

./autogen.sh --with-f2py=/usr/bin/f2py3.2 --with-python3=/usr/bin/python3

That should work for your Numpy issues.

The rest, particularly with the imaging packages, I can't help much
further on.

One last thing to note, in the generated Makefile, check that your lib
directory is being pulled in correctly:

-L/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf

It looks ok in configure.ac

73's
Greg, KI7MT



On 12/19/2014 10:54 PM, ki7mt wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> 
> After a bit of poking around, I'm surprised you got as far as you did.
> From the looks of things, I may be logged into the wrong box or something.
> 
> Here is what I found thus far:
> 
> * I could nto find a WSPR install directory /downloads/hamradio, they
> were all listed as wsjt. 4336 was the latested labeled folder, and that
> was definitely WSJT, not WSPR, so I don't know where WSPR is hiding.
> 
> * python-numpy is installed (py2 build), that needs to be removed
> 
> * python3-numpy is v1.6. Sice the shift to Python3, the oldest version
> of Numpy that I've gotten to work, both Linux and Windows, is 1.8.0,
> others may have different results.
> 
> * Pip doesn't seem to be working correctly. ( pip-3.2 list ) should pull
> the package list, but it doesn't seem to be working that way on your
> box, I'm not sure what's up with that one. Maybe it's different on those
> distro's.
> 
> * you have (4) F2PY files in the /usr/bin directory:
> -- /usr/bin/f2py <-- not sure if this is a py2 or py3 build.
> -- /usr/bin/f2py2.6
> -- /usr/bin/f2py2.7
> -- /usr/bin/f2py3.2
> 
> * f2py3.2 is working from the command line. Both in terms of version
> information and f2py -c --help-fcompiler. Adding it to the autogen
> command, as I stated before, should pick this up. I tested 3 different
> locations on my box, all passed, without having python3-numpy installed
> from the Ubuntu repo's, I built it from source in each location.
> 
> * Wheezy does not have any of the required python3-*imiging* packages:
> python3-imaging* <-- Nil
> python-imaging-tk* <-- Nil
> python3-pil <-- Nil
> python-pillow <-- Nil
> 
> At least, not accessible from the command-line via apt or that I could find.
> 
> PIL is the problem I spoke of when working with Ross on Debian Wheezy
> with his RaspberryPi. Other than trying to build them from source ( not
> fun ), I don't know of a work around for this, other than *maybe* a
> backport from Jessie.
> 
> * Gcc / gfortran is 4.6. I've not tested 4.6 on any of the WSJT apps.
> Earliest I've tested, was 4.7 on WSJT-X. I'm not certain this is an
> issue, but its a potential issue.
> 
> * General Caution, installing packages using PIP is risky business,
> especially on a Debian / Ubuntu distro outside of a virtualenv. If you
> decide to go that route for dependencies, be prepared to back them out
> or have issues.
> 
> That's all I could find at the moment.
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> 
> On 12/19/2014 09:35 PM, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
>> Hi Joe and all,
>>
>> WSPR on ARM (Bananian 2013-12-02) crashed after 15 hours.
>>
>> Banana Pi Build notes:
>>
>> Wrote SD card, did:
>> bananian-update
>> bananian-config   set root password etc..
>> Wanted GUI:
>> apt-get install task-lxde-desktop
>> Reboot, GUI came up.
>> vi /etc/login.defs set UMASK 002
>> Add group tims, user alanb wsjtdev
>> apt-cache pkgnames > apt1
>> apt-get install python3-dev python3-setuptools libtiff4-dev libjpeg8-dev
>> zlib1g-dev \
>> liblcms2-dev libwebp-dev tcl8.5-dev tk8.5-dev python-tk libfreetype6-dev
>> subversion \
>> libfftw3-dev gfortran libsamplerate0-dev libportaudio2 portaudio19-dev 
>> autogen
>> automake \
>> python3-pip python3-all-dev build-essential tightvncserver xrdp python3-tk
>> python3-numpy
>>
>> # No f2py3 not found by "autogen.sh" and not in "pip3 search f2py" pulled
>> binary from F21. But, was there called "/usr/bin/f2py3.2".
>>
>> Remote login. Is setup, same password etc..
>>
>> Alan VK2ZIW
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 19:20:37 +, KI7MT wrote
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure where FD 21 puts f2py, but Wheezy add it's to:
>>>
>>> /usr/bin/f2py3.2
>>>
>>> Armel: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armel/python3-
>>> numpy/filelist Armh

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSPR crashes, error starting rx thread

2014-12-19 Thread ki7mt
Hi Alan,

After a bit of poking around, I'm surprised you got as far as you did.
>From the looks of things, I may be logged into the wrong box or something.

Here is what I found thus far:

* I could nto find a WSPR install directory /downloads/hamradio, they
were all listed as wsjt. 4336 was the latested labeled folder, and that
was definitely WSJT, not WSPR, so I don't know where WSPR is hiding.

* python-numpy is installed (py2 build), that needs to be removed

* python3-numpy is v1.6. Sice the shift to Python3, the oldest version
of Numpy that I've gotten to work, both Linux and Windows, is 1.8.0,
others may have different results.

* Pip doesn't seem to be working correctly. ( pip-3.2 list ) should pull
the package list, but it doesn't seem to be working that way on your
box, I'm not sure what's up with that one. Maybe it's different on those
distro's.

* you have (4) F2PY files in the /usr/bin directory:
-- /usr/bin/f2py <-- not sure if this is a py2 or py3 build.
-- /usr/bin/f2py2.6
-- /usr/bin/f2py2.7
-- /usr/bin/f2py3.2

* f2py3.2 is working from the command line. Both in terms of version
information and f2py -c --help-fcompiler. Adding it to the autogen
command, as I stated before, should pick this up. I tested 3 different
locations on my box, all passed, without having python3-numpy installed
from the Ubuntu repo's, I built it from source in each location.

* Wheezy does not have any of the required python3-*imiging* packages:
python3-imaging* <-- Nil
python-imaging-tk* <-- Nil
python3-pil <-- Nil
python-pillow <-- Nil

At least, not accessible from the command-line via apt or that I could find.

PIL is the problem I spoke of when working with Ross on Debian Wheezy
with his RaspberryPi. Other than trying to build them from source ( not
fun ), I don't know of a work around for this, other than *maybe* a
backport from Jessie.

* Gcc / gfortran is 4.6. I've not tested 4.6 on any of the WSJT apps.
Earliest I've tested, was 4.7 on WSJT-X. I'm not certain this is an
issue, but its a potential issue.

* General Caution, installing packages using PIP is risky business,
especially on a Debian / Ubuntu distro outside of a virtualenv. If you
decide to go that route for dependencies, be prepared to back them out
or have issues.

That's all I could find at the moment.

73's
Greg, KI7MT


On 12/19/2014 09:35 PM, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
> Hi Joe and all,
> 
> WSPR on ARM (Bananian 2013-12-02) crashed after 15 hours.
> 
> Banana Pi Build notes:
> 
> Wrote SD card, did:
> bananian-update
> bananian-config   set root password etc..
> Wanted GUI:
> apt-get install task-lxde-desktop
> Reboot, GUI came up.
> vi /etc/login.defs set UMASK 002
> Add group tims, user alanb wsjtdev
> apt-cache pkgnames > apt1
> apt-get install python3-dev python3-setuptools libtiff4-dev libjpeg8-dev
> zlib1g-dev \
> liblcms2-dev libwebp-dev tcl8.5-dev tk8.5-dev python-tk libfreetype6-dev
> subversion \
> libfftw3-dev gfortran libsamplerate0-dev libportaudio2 portaudio19-dev autogen
> automake \
> python3-pip python3-all-dev build-essential tightvncserver xrdp python3-tk
> python3-numpy
> 
> # No f2py3 not found by "autogen.sh" and not in "pip3 search f2py" pulled
> binary from F21. But, was there called "/usr/bin/f2py3.2".
> 
> Remote login. Is setup, same password etc..
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 19:20:37 +, KI7MT wrote
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> I'm not sure where FD 21 puts f2py, but Wheezy add it's to:
>>
>> /usr/bin/f2py3.2
>>
>> Armel: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armel/python3-
>> numpy/filelist Armhf: 
>> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armhf/python3-numpy/filelist
>>
>> I added a couple ac_arg_with statements to configure.ac. I can't log
>> into your box to test his, but, when you have time, try running
>> ./autogen.sh with:
>>
>> ./autogen.sh --with-f2py= --with-python3=
>>
>> The path statements need to include the file name, so if your f2py file
>> name is f2py.py, the path would be something like:
>>
>> --with-f2py=/usr/bin/f2py.py  or wherever you've installed it.
>>
>> As a side note, Debian Wheezy has python3-numpy, so I'm not sure why 
>> you needed to copy it over from from Fedora. If at all possible, you 
>> install python3-numpy form your Bananian (Wheezy) distro, which 
>> should yield /usr/bin/f2py3.2.
>>
>> 73's
>> Greg, KI7MT
>>
>> On 12/19/2014 12:16, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
>>> Hi Joe and all,
>>>
>>> Now running Bananian (wheezy) and apart from no "f2py3" which
>>> I copied from Fedora 21, "autogen.sh" didn't pickup the "no f2py3".
>>> WSPR SVN 4795
>>> "top"
>>>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
>   
>>> 12854 alanb 20   0  264m  90m 8212 S   4.0 10.4   2:15.13 python3
>   
>>>  6199 alanb 20   0  9776 7540 1828 S   1.0  0.8   0:36.95 Xvnc  
>>>
>>> Hardware: Banana Pi 
>>> O/S: Bananian 2014-12-04   (wheezy)
>>>
>>> No funny business, running on SD card. "dev" was done on SATA disk, where
>>> the WSJT binaries & python resides for the 

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSPR crashes, error starting rx thread

2014-12-19 Thread Alan VK2ZIW
Hi Joe and all,

WSPR on ARM (Bananian 2013-12-02) crashed after 15 hours.

Banana Pi Build notes:

Wrote SD card, did:
bananian-update
bananian-config   set root password etc..
Wanted GUI:
apt-get install task-lxde-desktop
Reboot, GUI came up.
vi /etc/login.defs set UMASK 002
Add group tims, user alanb wsjtdev
apt-cache pkgnames > apt1
apt-get install python3-dev python3-setuptools libtiff4-dev libjpeg8-dev
zlib1g-dev \
liblcms2-dev libwebp-dev tcl8.5-dev tk8.5-dev python-tk libfreetype6-dev
subversion \
libfftw3-dev gfortran libsamplerate0-dev libportaudio2 portaudio19-dev autogen
automake \
python3-pip python3-all-dev build-essential tightvncserver xrdp python3-tk
python3-numpy

# No f2py3 not found by "autogen.sh" and not in "pip3 search f2py" pulled
binary from F21. But, was there called "/usr/bin/f2py3.2".

Remote login. Is setup, same password etc..

Alan VK2ZIW



On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 19:20:37 +, KI7MT wrote
> Hi Alan,
> 
> I'm not sure where FD 21 puts f2py, but Wheezy add it's to:
> 
> /usr/bin/f2py3.2
> 
> Armel: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armel/python3-
> numpy/filelist Armhf: 
> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armhf/python3-numpy/filelist
> 
> I added a couple ac_arg_with statements to configure.ac. I can't log
> into your box to test his, but, when you have time, try running
> ./autogen.sh with:
> 
> ./autogen.sh --with-f2py= --with-python3=
> 
> The path statements need to include the file name, so if your f2py file
> name is f2py.py, the path would be something like:
> 
> --with-f2py=/usr/bin/f2py.py  or wherever you've installed it.
> 
> As a side note, Debian Wheezy has python3-numpy, so I'm not sure why 
> you needed to copy it over from from Fedora. If at all possible, you 
> install python3-numpy form your Bananian (Wheezy) distro, which 
> should yield /usr/bin/f2py3.2.
> 
> 73's
> Greg, KI7MT
> 
> On 12/19/2014 12:16, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
> > Hi Joe and all,
> > 
> > Now running Bananian (wheezy) and apart from no "f2py3" which
> > I copied from Fedora 21, "autogen.sh" didn't pickup the "no f2py3".
> > WSPR SVN 4795
> > "top"
> >   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
  
> > 12854 alanb 20   0  264m  90m 8212 S   4.0 10.4   2:15.13 python3
  
> >  6199 alanb 20   0  9776 7540 1828 S   1.0  0.8   0:36.95 Xvnc  
> > 
> > Hardware: Banana Pi 
> > O/S: Bananian 2014-12-04   (wheezy)
> > 
> > No funny business, running on SD card. "dev" was done on SATA disk, where
> > the WSJT binaries & python resides for the run test.  
> > 
> > We'll see after a long run.
> > 
> > Alan VK2ZIW
> > 
> > On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:08:43 -0500, Joe Taylor wrote
> >> Alan --
> >>
> >> For several years already the SVN repository has included two 
> >> lightweight WSPR tools:
> >>
> >>wspr0.exe
> >>wspr_nogui.py
> >>
> >> If running on minimal hardware is a high-priority goal for you (or 
> >> for your balloonists, or ???) have you considered either of these?
> >>
> >> These programs have not received much attention of late, but should 
> >> be relatively easy to make functional and useful to play with.  The 
> >> first one, in particular, is *extremely* lightweight.
> >>
> >>-- Joe, K1JT
> >>
> >> On 12/18/2014 1:54 PM, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
> >>> Yes Joe,
> >>>
> >>> We'll let you know what we find.
> >>>
> >>> And yes, I'm using ARMv7 hardware, because size of equipment
> >>> and power are VERY important.
> >>>
> >>> How many hams in India could afford to run a 100W PC 24x7
> >>> for WSPR?
> >>>
> >>> That's $300 per year here in Australia.
> >>>
> >>> Can you fly a Windows x86 PC in a balloon?
> >>>
> >>> We MUST consider, as developers, the use or our products.
> >>>
> >>> BTW: I quite clearly specified the hardware and O/S with problems.
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>>
> >>> Alan VK2ZIW
> >>
> >>
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> > 
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> > Consider Jesus.
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> > 70 Wedmore Rd.   Sun Solaris, AIX, HP/UX, Linux, SCO OpenServer 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSPR crashes, error starting rx thread

2014-12-19 Thread KI7MT
Hi Alan,

I'm not sure where FD 21 puts f2py, but Wheezy add it's to:

/usr/bin/f2py3.2

Armel: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armel/python3-numpy/filelist
Armhf: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armhf/python3-numpy/filelist

I added a couple ac_arg_with statements to configure.ac. I can't log
into your box to test his, but, when you have time, try running
./autogen.sh with:

./autogen.sh --with-f2py= --with-python3=

The path statements need to include the file name, so if your f2py file
name is f2py.py, the path would be something like:

--with-f2py=/usr/bin/f2py.py  or wherever you've installed it.

As a side note, Debian Wheezy has python3-numpy, so I'm not sure why you
needed to copy it over from from Fedora. If at all possible, you install
python3-numpy form your Bananian (Wheezy) distro, which should yield
/usr/bin/f2py3.2.

73's
Greg, KI7MT


On 12/19/2014 12:16, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
> Hi Joe and all,
> 
> Now running Bananian (wheezy) and apart from no "f2py3" which
> I copied from Fedora 21, "autogen.sh" didn't pickup the "no f2py3".
> WSPR SVN 4795
> "top"
>   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND 
>   
> 12854 alanb 20   0  264m  90m 8212 S   4.0 10.4   2:15.13 python3 
>   
>  6199 alanb 20   0  9776 7540 1828 S   1.0  0.8   0:36.95 Xvnc  
> 
> Hardware: Banana Pi 
> O/S: Bananian 2014-12-04   (wheezy)
> 
> No funny business, running on SD card. "dev" was done on SATA disk, where
> the WSJT binaries & python resides for the run test.  
> 
> We'll see after a long run.
> 
> Alan VK2ZIW
> 
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:08:43 -0500, Joe Taylor wrote
>> Alan --
>>
>> For several years already the SVN repository has included two 
>> lightweight WSPR tools:
>>
>>wspr0.exe
>>wspr_nogui.py
>>
>> If running on minimal hardware is a high-priority goal for you (or 
>> for your balloonists, or ???) have you considered either of these?
>>
>> These programs have not received much attention of late, but should 
>> be relatively easy to make functional and useful to play with.  The 
>> first one, in particular, is *extremely* lightweight.
>>
>>  -- Joe, K1JT
>>
>> On 12/18/2014 1:54 PM, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
>>> Yes Joe,
>>>
>>> We'll let you know what we find.
>>>
>>> And yes, I'm using ARMv7 hardware, because size of equipment
>>> and power are VERY important.
>>>
>>> How many hams in India could afford to run a 100W PC 24x7
>>> for WSPR?
>>>
>>> That's $300 per year here in Australia.
>>>
>>> Can you fly a Windows x86 PC in a balloon?
>>>
>>> We MUST consider, as developers, the use or our products.
>>>
>>> BTW: I quite clearly specified the hardware and O/S with problems.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Alan VK2ZIW
>>
>> --
>> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
>> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
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> 
> 
> Alan
> 
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> Consider Jesus.
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> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSPR crashes, error starting rx thread

2014-12-19 Thread Alan VK2ZIW
Hi Joe and all,

Now running Bananian (wheezy) and apart from no "f2py3" which
I copied from Fedora 21, "autogen.sh" didn't pickup the "no f2py3".
WSPR SVN 4795
"top"
  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND   
12854 alanb 20   0  264m  90m 8212 S   4.0 10.4   2:15.13 python3   
 6199 alanb 20   0  9776 7540 1828 S   1.0  0.8   0:36.95 Xvnc  

Hardware: Banana Pi 
O/S: Bananian 2014-12-04   (wheezy)

No funny business, running on SD card. "dev" was done on SATA disk, where
the WSJT binaries & python resides for the run test.  

We'll see after a long run.

Alan VK2ZIW

On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:08:43 -0500, Joe Taylor wrote
> Alan --
> 
> For several years already the SVN repository has included two 
> lightweight WSPR tools:
> 
>wspr0.exe
>wspr_nogui.py
> 
> If running on minimal hardware is a high-priority goal for you (or 
> for your balloonists, or ???) have you considered either of these?
> 
> These programs have not received much attention of late, but should 
> be relatively easy to make functional and useful to play with.  The 
> first one, in particular, is *extremely* lightweight.
> 
>   -- Joe, K1JT
> 
> On 12/18/2014 1:54 PM, Alan VK2ZIW wrote:
> > Yes Joe,
> >
> > We'll let you know what we find.
> >
> > And yes, I'm using ARMv7 hardware, because size of equipment
> > and power are VERY important.
> >
> > How many hams in India could afford to run a 100W PC 24x7
> > for WSPR?
> >
> > That's $300 per year here in Australia.
> >
> > Can you fly a Windows x86 PC in a balloon?
> >
> > We MUST consider, as developers, the use or our products.
> >
> > BTW: I quite clearly specified the hardware and O/S with problems.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Alan VK2ZIW
> 
> --
> Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server
> from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards
> with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & 
> more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar 
> corporations, FREE
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
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Alan

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Consider Jesus.
---
Alan Beard   Unix Support Technician from 1984 to today
70 Wedmore Rd.   Sun Solaris, AIX, HP/UX, Linux, SCO OpenServer 5.0.X
Emu Heights N.S.W. 2750  Routers, terminal servers, printers, terminals etc..
+61 2 47353013 (h)   Support Programming, shell scripting, "C", assembler
0414 353013 (mobile) After uni, electr


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