[wsjt-devel] Separate F/H freq list

[Rich Zwirko - K1HTV]

I too like the idea of separating the special Fox/Hound frequencies from
the main list and having them activated when that mode is selected. Having
multiple frequencies to choose from in the band list can be confusing,
especially to the new user. A smaller subset, most likely only one per band
would simplify things in the Fox/Hound mode.

Completely locking out the use of standard frequencies while in the F/H
mode would stop DX stations who use WSJT-X and feel that they deserve to
use the F/H mode. But the clones of WSJT-X would probably continue to be
used by these 'special' DX stations on normal FT8 frequencies.

73,
Rich - K1HTV
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From: Mark James 

I like the idea of custom frequency lists.

I realize this would be more elaborate in terms of code changes, but it
would be nice to be able to have a separate list of Fox/Hound frequencies
that could be customized, and would switch into place in that mode.

While it isn't hard to add custom frequencies, this might help popularize
Fox/Hound and make it clear that custom frequencies are needed,
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Re: [wsjt-devel] [wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

[Neil Zampella]

FWIW ... I do this with separate CONFIGURATIONS.  Each configuration has
its own set of Frequencies, and I have one setup for DXPeditions. 
Lately I've had to create separate ones as there are a few DXPeditions
running at the same time, and they are using different frequencies to
keep from stepping on another.

It works great, and all I have to do is switch back to my normal FT8 (or
other mode) configuration and all my settings are returned to what I
need for the mode.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 2/27/2019 11:17 AM, Mark James wrote:

I like the idea of custom frequency lists.

I realize this would be more elaborate in terms of code changes, but
it would be nice to be able to have a separate list of Fox/Hound
frequencies that could be customized, and would switch into place in
that mode.

While it isn't hard to add custom frequencies, this might help
popularize Fox/Hound and make it clear that custom frequencies are needed,


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On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:52 AM john mailto:j...@thelongs.us>> wrote:

Just a suggestion;

For other reasons I create and "save" custom frecuency lists.
IE: a list of current Dexpedition frequency)

Maybe you could save your customized frecuency list so you can
load/restore it if things change (like a software update)

Again just a suggestion.


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 Original message 
From: Tom Melvin mailto:t...@tkrh.co.uk>>
Date: 2/27/19 6:42 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: wsjtgroup mailto:wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com>>
Cc: WSJT software development mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] [wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

All

I have re-read what I posted and with hindsight I realise I was
well over the top - there was no excuse.

I apologise to the groups (cross posted on purpose).

Would still like to get to the the bottom of a suitable frequency
for 4m for those that have the allocation - yes 60m is similar.

Ron yes I know you can edit the frequencies - that is the little
‘niggle’ (which I blew out of proportion) - have already been
through the exercise - all was working fine - for my area the
_majority_ of users 70.154 fits - yes there is ZS which on Es may
be possible - another couple of allocation is weird - but in
general it worked.

Along comes an upgrade and woosh all the work gone - I can change
it all back but what will happen on the next upgrade but that is
in the future for just now.

Again I apologise to all

Regards

Tom
GM8MJV (IO85)





On 27 Feb 2019, at 12:02, 'vk3...@optusnet.com.au
' vk3...@optusnet.com.au
 [wsjtgroup]
mailto:wsjtgroup-nore...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:



Hi Tom
I wish you would tell people what you think.

It is not difficult to amend or add to  the frequencies although
everyone in your region will need to do that. Settings
Frequencies add

We are still waiting for 60 m and a 4 m allocation is not getting
any attention now.

You live in luxury lad, lookshury.

73
Ron
VK3AFW



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*Subject:*[wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

Ahhh


What on earth made ‘you’ decide too reset used and recognised
frequencies from the list.

Region 1 FT8 on 70 Mhz 99.9% of people use 70.154 - this was
pointed out to one of the dev team end of January,

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Re: [wsjt-devel] [wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

[Mark James]

I like the idea of custom frequency lists.

I realize this would be more elaborate in terms of code changes, but it
would be nice to be able to have a separate list of Fox/Hound frequencies
that could be customized, and would switch into place in that mode.

While it isn't hard to add custom frequencies, this might help popularize
Fox/Hound and make it clear that custom frequencies are needed,


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On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:52 AM john  wrote:

> Just a suggestion;
>
> For other reasons I create and "save" custom frecuency lists.
> IE: a list of current Dexpedition frequency)
>
> Maybe you could save your customized frecuency list so you can
> load/restore it if things change (like a software update)
>
> Again just a suggestion.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: Tom Melvin 
> Date: 2/27/19 6:42 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: wsjtgroup 
> Cc: WSJT software development 
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] [wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq
>
> All
>
> I have re-read what I posted and with hindsight I realise I was well over
> the top - there was no excuse.
>
> I apologise to the groups (cross posted on purpose).
>
> Would still like to get to the the bottom of a suitable frequency for 4m
> for those that have the allocation - yes 60m is similar.
>
> Ron yes I know you can edit the frequencies - that is the little ‘niggle’
> (which I blew out of proportion) - have already been through the exercise -
> all was working fine - for my area the _majority_ of users 70.154 fits -
> yes there is ZS which on Es may be possible - another couple of allocation
> is weird - but in general it worked.
>
> Along comes an upgrade and woosh all the work gone - I can change it all
> back but what will happen on the next upgrade but that is in the future for
> just now.
>
> Again I apologise to all
>
> Regards
>
> Tom
> GM8MJV (IO85)
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 Feb 2019, at 12:02, 'vk3...@optusnet.com.au' vk3...@optusnet.com.au
> [wsjtgroup]  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tom
> I wish you would tell people what you think.
>
> It is not difficult to amend or add to  the frequencies although everyone
> in your region will need to do that. Settings Frequencies add
>
> We are still waiting for 60 m and a 4 m allocation is not getting any
> attention now.
>
> You live in luxury lad, lookshury.
>
> 73
> Ron
> VK3AFW
>
>
>
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>
> -- Original message--
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> *Date: *Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:42 PM
> *To: *wsjtgroup;
> *Cc: *WSJT software development;
> *Subject:*[wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq
>
>
>
> Ahhh
>
> What on earth made ‘you’ decide too reset used and recognised frequencies
> from the list.
>
> Region 1 FT8 on 70 Mhz 99.9% of people use 70.154 - this was pointed out
> to one of the dev team end of January,
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Possible problème WSJTX 2.01 and XFCE

[Karza]

Hi Olivier,

On 02/27/2019 05:40 PM, Olivier SCHMITT wrote:

Hi every one,

When i run wsjtx 2.01 on ubuntu with xfce, it take very long time to 
lunch and i have this king of messages:


ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:990:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports 
only playback stream


Has anyone ever experienced such problems?


Yes, this happens in my XUbuntu system also
if I start the program from commad line.

However, I simply ignore those messages.

After WSJT-X loads everything works just fine
so IMHO this is not a serious problem.

BR,
Kari oh2gqc




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Re: [wsjt-devel] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

[G8DQX (WSJT developers on SF)]

Tom,

perhaps, when composing such an email, you might consider the stratagem 
of waiting for 10 minutes, re-reading, and then asking yourself if what 
has been written is going to be read, by somebody else, to mean what you 
thought that you were saying, and how you meant to say it. For some 
emails waiting half-an-hour or the following day (or later) before 
deleting or sending may be more appropriate.


As written, your email sounds churlish and ungrateful, some would say 
intemperate. Does the email really reflect your view of the WSJT-X 
development team and community, and how you would wish to engage with 
the rest of us?


Robin, G8DQX

On 27/02/2019 11:42, Tom Melvin wrote:
Lets cause no end of confusion - no wait, it will not affect the 
Americans or affect the HF brigade so to heck with it - We are FT8 
Gods the plebs WILL do what we tell them.


Well done guys, software development at it’s best.



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Re: [wsjt-devel] [wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

[john]

Just a suggestion;For other reasons I create and "save" custom frecuency 
lists.IE: a list of current Dexpedition frequency)Maybe you could save your 
customized frecuency list so you can load/restore it if things change (like a 
software update)Again just a suggestion. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
smartphone
 Original message From: Tom Melvin  Date: 
2/27/19  6:42 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: wsjtgroup  Cc: 
WSJT software development  Subject: Re: 
[wsjt-devel] [wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq AllI have re-read what I posted 
and with hindsight I realise I was well over the top - there was no excuse.I 
apologise to the groups (cross posted on purpose).Would still like to get to 
the the bottom of a suitable frequency for 4m for those that have the 
allocation - yes 60m is similar.Ron yes I know you can edit the frequencies - 
that is the little ‘niggle’ (which I blew out of proportion) - have already 
been through the exercise - all was working fine - for my area the _majority_ 
of users 70.154 fits - yes there is ZS which on Es may be possible - another 
couple of allocation is weird - but in general it worked.Along comes an upgrade 
and woosh all the work gone - I can change it all back but what will happen on 
the next upgrade but that is in the future for just now.Again I apologise to 
allRegardsTomGM8MJV (IO85)

On 27 Feb 2019, at 12:02, 'vk3...@optusnet.com.au' vk3...@optusnet.com.au 
[wsjtgroup]  wrote:Hi TomI wish you would 
tell people what you think. It is not difficult to amend or add to  the 
frequencies although everyone in your region will need to do that. Settings 
Frequencies addWe are still waiting for 60 m and a 4 m allocation is not 
getting any attention now.You live in luxury lad, lookshury.73RonVK3AFWSent 
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Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:42 PMTo: wsjtgroup;Cc: WSJT software 
development;Subject:[wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq AhhhWhat on earth made 
‘you’ decide too reset used and recognised frequencies from the list.Region 1 
FT8 on 70 Mhz 99.9% of people use 70.154 - this was pointed out to one of the 
dev team end of January, 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] [wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

[Tom Melvin]

All

I have re-read what I posted and with hindsight I realise I was well over the 
top - there was no excuse.

I apologise to the groups (cross posted on purpose).

Would still like to get to the the bottom of a suitable frequency for 4m for 
those that have the allocation - yes 60m is similar.

Ron yes I know you can edit the frequencies - that is the little ‘niggle’ 
(which I blew out of proportion) - have already been through the exercise - all 
was working fine - for my area the _majority_ of users 70.154 fits - yes there 
is ZS which on Es may be possible - another couple of allocation is weird - but 
in general it worked.

Along comes an upgrade and woosh all the work gone - I can change it all back 
but what will happen on the next upgrade but that is in the future for just now.

Again I apologise to all

Regards

Tom
GM8MJV (IO85)





On 27 Feb 2019, at 12:02, 'vk3...@optusnet.com.au' vk3...@optusnet.com.au 
[wsjtgroup]  wrote:

> 
> Hi Tom
> I wish you would tell people what you think. 
> 
> It is not difficult to amend or add to  the frequencies although everyone in 
> your region will need to do that. Settings Frequencies add
> 
> We are still waiting for 60 m and a 4 m allocation is not getting any 
> attention now.
> 
> You live in luxury lad, lookshury.
> 
> 73
> Ron
> VK3AFW
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Telstra Signature™ Enhanced on the Telstra Mobile Network
> 
> -- Original message--
> From: Tom Melvin t...@tkrh.co.uk [wsjtgroup] /div>
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 10:42 PM
> To: wsjtgroup;
> Cc: WSJT software development;
> Subject:[wsjtgroup] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq
> 
>  
> Ahhh
> 
> 
> What on earth made ‘you’ decide too reset used and recognised frequencies 
> from the list.
> 
> Region 1 FT8 on 70 Mhz 99.9% of people use 70.154 - this was pointed out to 
> one of the dev team end of January, poll was made on KST off region 1 users 
> and fed back - it looked as if there would be no issue in changing the 
> default. It would match up with majority of countries with 4m allocation, it 
> would fit in with other software implementations (where the default has 
> always been 70.154).
> 
> What do I find, no new default, in fact the latest upgrade will actually 
> remove the .154 (there was an edit option for that) and replace it with .100 
> 
> Lets cause no end of confusion - no wait, it will not affect the Americans or 
> affect the HF brigade so to heck with it - We are FT8 Gods the plebs WILL do 
> what we tell them.
> 
> Well done guys, software development at it’s best.
> 
> --
> 
> 73’s
> 
> Tom
> GM8MJV (IO85)
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

[Bill Somerville]

On 27/02/2019 11:42, Tom Melvin wrote:

Ahhh

What on earth made ‘you’ decide too reset used and recognised 
frequencies from the list.


Region 1 FT8 on 70 Mhz 99.9% of people use 70.154 - this was pointed 
out to one of the dev team end of January, poll was made on KST off 
region 1 users and fed back - it looked as if there would be no issue 
in changing the default. It would match up with majority of countries 
with 4m allocation, it would fit in with other software 
implementations (where the default has always been 70.154).


What do I find, no new default, in fact the latest upgrade will 
actually remove the .154 (there was an edit option for that) and 
replace it with .100


Lets cause no end of confusion - no wait, it will not affect the 
Americans or affect the HF brigade so to heck with it - We are FT8 
Gods the plebs WILL do what we tell them.


Well done guys, software development at it’s best.

--

73’s

Tom
GM8MJV (IO85)


OM,

please do not cross-post  in 
multiple groups.


73
Bill
G4WJS.

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[wsjt-devel] 70 Mhz Region 1 Freq

[Tom Melvin]

Ahhh

What on earth made ‘you’ decide too reset used and recognised frequencies from 
the list.

Region 1 FT8 on 70 Mhz 99.9% of people use 70.154 - this was pointed out to one 
of the dev team end of January, poll was made on KST off region 1 users and fed 
back - it looked as if there would be no issue in changing the default. It 
would match up with majority of countries with 4m allocation, it would fit in 
with other software implementations (where the default has always been 70.154).

What do I find, no new default, in fact the latest upgrade will actually remove 
the .154 (there was an edit option for that) and replace it with .100 

Lets cause no end of confusion - no wait, it will not affect the Americans or 
affect the HF brigade so to heck with it - We are FT8 Gods the plebs WILL do 
what we tell them.

Well done guys, software development at it’s best.

--

73’s

Tom
GM8MJV (IO85)

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