[wsjt-devel] K4SHQ audio question

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

 Sounds like an update issue, time to reboot the computer.
Bill, W4WNT

On Monday, April 29, 2019, 8:01:13 PM EDT, Dan Malcolm  
wrote:  
 
 Voicemeeter Banana

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Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5

On 29/04/2019 22:43, Dan Malcolm wrote:
> Just installed WSJT-X 2.1.0 RC5 x64 on my Win10 x64 machine.  Tx works and 
> seems to be OK, but something rerouted audio from VMB to my system speakers.  
> No audio received by WSJT-X (either in RC5 or 2.0.2 ) , but I can sure hear 
> the caterwauling in the speakers.  The best I can tell, Win10's wonderful 
> audio routing system (App volume and device preferences) is set correctly.  
> FWIW I am running VMB 2.0.4.7.
>
> Prior to installing RC5 everything was working fine.
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Hi Dan,

what is VMB?

73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Support for Winter Field Day

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 There is a simple way to accomodate FT8. Have WFD adopt the class letters H 
(Home), I (Inside), and F (Field). It is Winter Field Day after all. This would 
fit into the current WSJT-X programming.
Bill Turner, W4WNT

On Thursday, November 29, 2018, 11:43:18 PM EST, Tim Goeppinger via 
wsjt-devel  wrote:  
 
 I am very thankful and appreciative to the administrators of Winter Field Day 
for allowing FT8 asa Digital mode in the January 2019 running of the event.   
Even before the publicity of the DecemberQST article, this event has been 
growing by leaps and bounds every year.  https://www.winterfieldday.com
I see that the exchange supported by WSJTx for FT8 in ARRL FD is a number 1-32 
and a letter A thru F, along with ARRL section.   Unfortunately, the class 
letters in WFD are  H (Home),  I (Inside), and O (Outside).    Is there any way 
an accommodation could be made for WFD, and extend the letter range from A thru 
O?   Since O is the 15th letter in the alphabet, this would only require 1 
extra bit, if it is available.  

Thanks for your consideration,
Tim N6GP

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[wsjt-devel] RTTY RU "test"

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Win10, IC-7300, WSJT-X V2.0.0 rc4
As others have reported the "contest log" window and the Cabrillo file show 
local date and time 11-19-18, 9:15.
I renamed the Cabrillo log before the contest to avoid confusion.  No cabrillo 
file was created during the test. The Cabrillo file was created after the test 
with the export command.

I ran JTAlert and logged to ACLog  and found that the exported date and time 
data were correct and UTC time.
I need to re-read the documentation, some folks sent R 559 TX and went on to 
the next contact, Auto Seq sent RRR from here and then some sent a 73 message 
and I sent a 73 message then logged it. I could have manually logged it after 
the R 559 TX exchange.
Lots of folks did show up including Falkland Is. and Greece so the word is 
getting out.
Thanks for all your efforts.  

Bill Turner, W4WNT


RTTY RU FT8 test.log
Description: Binary data
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Re: [wsjt-devel] can not mount the version rc 4

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 I downloaded rc4 from Joe's princeton website, installed it in a separate 
folder wsjt-x_2.0_rc4.  Working fine on a Win10 laptop using FT8 above 2000Hz.  
Worked AZ and WI. de W4WNT 

On Tuesday, November 13, 2018, 12:40:34 PM EST, Bill Somerville 
 wrote:  
 
  On 13/11/2018 17:15, Bill Somerville wrote:
  
On 13/11/2018 17:05, Leo bally wrote: 
 
can not mount it . I went to the files via source force and downloaded it 
  Leo Bally 
 Ok8LEO 
 
 
 Hi Leo, 
 
 I am currently uploading WSJT-X v2.0.0 RC4 to the SourceForge files area. 
There are some issues with connection stability leaving files incomplete. It 
should be ok in an hour or so. 
 
 73 
 Bill 
 G4WJS. 
 
 
Hi Leo,
 
the Source Forge files area is now loaded with WSJT-X v2.0.0 RC4, I have added 
a list of sha256 hashes in case you want to check downloaded file integrity.
 
73
 Bill
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[wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx

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On the Main screen, the Tx<---Rx and Rx<---Tx arrows seem backwards.  Set 
Tx=1810 and Rx=1409, press Rx<---Tx and you get both Tx and Rx at 1810.
I'm reading Rx<---Tx as change the Tx frequency to the Rx frequency, move 1810 
to 1409 in this example.
WSJT-X 1.9.1 r8747 the GA release. Normal set up not Hound.

What am I missing?
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

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I have seen kh7z answering stations on 20m last night at -7 to -20 strength.  
Only saw one CQ at 11pm local in NC.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Feature Request: TX Signal Feedback Image

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Most FT8 users have email addresses in QRZ, so you can send them a screen shot. 
In my experience (and my end fed antenna) 60 to 70 watts for long haul contacts 
are not unusual. I might be running 5 watts if I had a five element beam and a 
70 foot tower!

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  On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Edfel Rivera wrote:   
Hi:
IMO, having the program send a small capture of the generated TX signal might 
be useful to know how much power is being used.  Sometimes other radio 
operators complaints of too much power used for TX.  But in my experience, some 
distant QSO requires more power to get a complete contact.  

What I foresee is maybe a screenshot of the waterfall own signal so WSJTX users 
get an idea of how strong (or disturbing) their own signal is.  Users could 
then make adjustments and use less power, generating less QSB and making 
possible more QSO's.  More people happy.  

Maybe, is a matter of self-control but IMO knowing visually how our own signal 
is could help a lot.
Thanks.
73'
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Re: [wsjt-devel] SourceForge repository changes

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If you are using Windows, the Snipping Tool allows you to save pictures of 
parts of the screen. Great for saving parameters once you get software running 
properly.

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  On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 10:01 AM, 
char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk
 wrote:   Hi Bill

Done - screenshots here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-ZYqPCEN2Nnc497P2t3_pRmkjm-HxyZD?usp=sharing

Is there any way of copying the contents of a command window to save
taking screenshots?

73

Charlie




> On 27/05/2018 14:16, char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk wrote:
>> I followed Greg's instructions to update and upgrade JTSDK and ended up
>> with the latest version, all OK.
>>
>> I then switched to the trunk using your instructions below, after which
>> perhaps 5-10  files were updated or merged.
>>
>> On building the latest version however, it seemed to copy many/all files
>> in the trunk to a new folder trunk inside the src\wsjtx folder some
>> 199MB
>> in size.
>>
>>  From this JTSDK built r8732 with no problems, apart from my uncommitted
>> changes not being included,  as these still reside inside src\wsjtx
>> rather
>> than src\wsjtx\trunk.
>>
>> Probably I did something dumb, but not sure what.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Charlie
>
> Hi Charlie,
>
> it sounds like you have ended up with two workspaces one inside the
> other. Please reply with the output of the following two commands run
> first in your top level directory and then secondly inside the new
> directory that unexpectedly got created:
>
> svn info
> svn status
>
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Query on DXpedition Mode test run

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I operated as Hound and used 1.9.0 rc4 r8642.
Bill, W4WNT 

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  On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Joe Taylor wrote:   Hi 
all,

If your callsign is in the following list, could you please reply 
off-list to let me know what program version you were using during the 
May 5 Fox-and-Hounds test run, and whether you were operating in Hound 
mode all the time?  We are trying to understand why some "R+rpt" (Tx3) 
messages were transmitted at audio frequencies above 1000 Hz.

DL1WM HA6NN IK2RPE K1VG K4BCG K7DR K7JA KL7MF KY6LA N7ZO N9APK N9RU
OH2BU OH2FQV OH2P OH7RF ON4WW PD0NUD S50A S55A SA2KNG SV1AHB W0PAS
W2SM W4WNT W5TKZ W8KF W8VVE WA4MIT WA7JAY

Many thanks!

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Band Time indication

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Thanks Bill, that was the problem. Using N Avg 3 restores the Band and Time 
indications.

Bill, W4WNT
 

On Monday, May 7, 2018, 4:15:21 AM EDT, Bill Somerville 
<g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:  
 
  On 07/05/2018 00:44, Bill Turner via wsjt-devel wrote:
  
   Using rc4  r8642 and r8648, I am not seeing the Band and Time 
indications on the Wide Graph using FT8. Windows 10, Dell D630 laptop, Icom 
IC-7300 with USB connection.
 
 The Band and Time appear on the Wide Graph using JT65.
 
 Bill Turner, W4WNT
   
 
Hi Bill,
 
try reducing the value of the "N Avg" waterfall control, at 5 the waterfall is 
too compressed vertically on FT8 mode to allow space for the time-codes.
 
73
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[wsjt-devel] 1.9.0 rc4 r8633

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You folks must be working overtime this weekend!  r8633 working well between NC 
and MA on 30m on an IC-7300.

However, when I look for the release notes using F1, I get the following 
message:


Not Found

The requested URL /pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.9.0-rc4.html was not 
found on this server.
ADDRESS:
Apache/2.2.15 (Red Hat) Server at www.physics.princeton.edu Port 80


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[wsjt-devel] Second Fox and Hound test

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>From EM94 in NC, I heard the foxes in both hours on four or five frequencies 
>in the 300-500 range and occasionally up in the 800-900 range.  Unfortunately 
>it was one way propagation, W7/KH6Z did hear me toward the end of the second 
>hour according to PSK Reporter, but no contact.
At times 1.9.0 r8603 stopped decoding and had to reboot the software. (WIN10, 
Dell D630 laptop, Icom IC-7300)
Normal mode worked fine, worked F4HJO on 20m at 1628Z after the test.
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[wsjt-devel] Timer

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Great job with the test last night.  I did find the 2 minute timer to be a real 
pain, however. I understand you do not want a robot operation, but a 5 or 10 
minute timer would be less frustrating.
When the software shuts off the Enable TX, how do we know that we are still on 
the correct sequence when we click on Enable TX?  I noticed some comments about 
folks calling on the wrong sequence last night.
Again, thanks for the effort in the test.
Bill Turner, W4WNT
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Correct procedure for uninstall

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Did you reset the frequencies?  Settings, freuency, right click, reset.  de 
W4WNT 

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  On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Ed Stokes wrote:   Hi Bill

FYI, I followed your instructions to the letter but 1.8.0 final would still not 
work.  Even though the configuration panel indicated that the serial connection 
was working, the frequency readout remained red and would not interact.  No 
sound was received or showing on the waterfall. 

I have reverted to rc1, which still works.

73, Ed



> On Jan 9, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> On 10/01/2018 00:26, Ed Stokes wrote:
>> Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to do a complete uninstall of 
>> wsjtx.app from a  Mac?
>> 
>> I want to install 1.8.0 (final) from a clean start.
>> 
>> Thanks.
> 
> Hi Ed,
> 
> drag the WSJT-X application bundle icon from /Applications and drop it into 
> the waste bin.
> 
> If you want to delete your settings and log files then the locations are 
> listed in the User Guide but rather than do that simply use the 
> "Menu->Configurations" drop down to clone your current settings and then use 
> it again to reset the current configuration. That is equivalent to starting 
> with a fresh set of preferences but without losing the old ones in case you 
> want to refer to them.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTx ver 1.8-rc3 problem

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Reboot the computer in case WIN10 has messed with settings. Check com ports in 
Device manager to be sure they still match the software. de W4WNT 

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  On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Unni Tharakkal 
wrote:   Dear All
I was using the WSJTX ver. 1.8 rc3 peacefully with some problem with Hamlib.
So I unstalled everyting and installed again Now my problems are
1. the Hamlib doesn't connect  the program. The errors I am getting are





2. Hamlib error : I/O error while opening connection  to rig 3. Communication 
timed out while getting current frequency  
I tried resetting the configuration No use



 



Tried to update Ham lib  - could not do it (How hamlib 68bit ver. can be 
updated I am using Win10 68 bit)




Then I tried to get it connected through Omnirig the error report is
Omini Rig : Initialization timed out
My set up is FT 857D with CH340 (CT62) rig control and a BY make Prolific PTT 
control
Using Win 10 Acer i3 lap top computer
Where I have gone wrong Please help. There is lot of opening to my side from 
Europe and Russia
With regards and 73s
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Fwd: WSJT Fails transmit after latest Win10 upgrade (Gilbert Baron)

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

There are FTDI usb-serial cables that do not have this problem. Check on 
Amazon. de W4WNT

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Fat fingers hit the wrong key.  here;s the whole thing


If your serial interface uses the older Prolific 2303 chipset it may be running 
into a common driver problem with this component.  Evidently at some point 
Prolific modified their driver to test for and disable the counterfeit Chinese 
versions of the chip.  You can do a search for the earlier version of the 
driver and replace the Win10 installed version of the driver and things will 
work again.
You can check if it's a driver problem:      Open Device Manager       Click on 
Ports       Right click on the serial port you're using for rig control.        
Select "Properties"       If it says something about a "Code 10" error you've 
got the driver problem.  A search on the web will give you the older versions 
of the driver as well as instructions on how to install it if you need the help.
davek2lyv

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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 1.8 rc2 & 3 issues with Hamlib

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Reset the frequencies using: Settings, frequencies, right click, reset. Others 
can address the other items. de W4WNT 

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  On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Philippe CHARDON (LaPoste) via 
wsjt-devel wrote:   Hello everyone,

You will find the description of the issue that I faced while trying to use the 
last 2 releases of WSJT-X. Going back to Rev 1.8 rc1 solves the problem.

- Program version:  1.8.0-rc2 & rc3, hamlib-w64-3.1
- Operating system: Windows 8 64
- Concise description of the problem:
    The frequency display background is red,
    It is impossible to change the mode,
    The selection of the band (rolling list) is not operational,
    Opening the preference panel provides no way to solve the issue.
- Exact sequence of steps required to reproduce the problem: It happens as soon 
as WSJT-X rc2 & 3 have been started up.
- Rig Information: FTDX1200 & SCU 17

I use the most recent version of Hamlib as a standalone program. WSJT-X 
connects to the Hamlib software via the Hamilb NET rigctl selected in the 
preference menu.
I could get access to the messages reported by Hamlib during the issue. You 
will find a copy attached as well as some pictures of my PC screen.
According to my understanding, rc2 & 3 may send invalid commands to Hamlib.

73 Philippe
F5FDV



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Standard Messages

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Thanks Erik, that does work.  Missed it!
Bill, W4WNT
 

On Wednesday, October 4, 2017, 4:23:43 PM EDT, Erik - 
<erikcarl...@live.com> wrote:  
 
 
F4 does that, at least for me it does.
 
  
 
Erik
 
  
 
From: Bill Turner via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: 04 October 2017 20:11
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Cc: Bill Turner <w4...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [wsjt-devel] Standard Messages
 
  
 
v8160, FT8, WIN10, SignaLink USB interface, IC-7000 transceiver using CI-V 
interface.
 
  
 
  
 
When logging a completed contact, call and grid boxes clear and std messages 
default to Tx6, CQ.
 
  
 
However, when a contact fails and you want to clear out the unsuccessful data, 
backspace through call and grid boxes to clear, click on Generate Std Messages 
leaves you at Tx1 which is now blank. 
 
  
 
I would like to see a button that clears call and grid and sets you at Tx6 for 
CQ.
 
  
 
Thanks for all the development work you all are doing.
 
  
 
Bill Turner, W4WNT
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[wsjt-devel] Standard Messages

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

v8160, FT8, WIN10, SignaLink USB interface, IC-7000 transceiver using CI-V 
interface.


When logging a completed contact, call and grid boxes clear and std messages 
default to Tx6, CQ.
However, when a contact fails and you want to clear out the unsuccessful data, 
backspace through call and grid boxes to clear, click on Generate Std Messages 
leaves you at Tx1 which is now blank. 
I would like to see a button that clears call and grid and sets you at Tx6 for 
CQ.
Thanks for all the development work you all are doing.
Bill Turner, W4WNT
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[wsjt-devel] Frequency setting

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

I was operating r8094 on 17m, 18.100.000.  I then compiled r8101 and clicked on 
the shortcut to bring it up.  The frequency showed as 18 100 055.  Clicking on 
the frequency box to get back to the 17m default, the box and the radio now 
show 18 100 000. I have seen this on previous builds also.  Icom IC-7300, 
Win10, usb cable interface.
In r8101, the NA VHF contest box is on the main page.  Maybe the 
UHF/VHF/Microwave Enhancements box should be under it.  Not every VHF effort is 
a contest but placing the enhancement box on the main page might be useful.
Thanks to everyone on the development team, you all do amazing work!
Bill Turner, W4WNT


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[wsjt-devel] FT8 in contests

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

As I understand it, one of the reasons for FT8 was for use in contests.  Next 
weekend, Sept. 9 and 10 is one of the ARRL VHF contests (four each year and one 
CQVHF contest).  In these contests, the grid is the exchange and the signal 
report is not necessary.  Thus, TX1 is what is needed   (Call call grid)

Just a little more food for thought.
Bill, W4WNT

  From: Rich - K1HTV 
 To: n2...@windstream.net; WSJT  
 Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 11:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] 8056 (correction)
   
 Jim,A correction:
The first line in my response should read "What you state about skipping the 
grid message and starting with the Tx2 (calls and report) message is NOT the 
case, at least with the present R-8055 build that I'm using. "
That feature does NOT exist in r8055.
73,Rich - K1HTV= = =Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 09:50:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rich - K1HTV 
To: n2...@windstream.net, WSJT 
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] 8056
Message-ID: <880004648.137269.1504273806...@connect.xfinity.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Jim,

 What you state about skipping the grid message and starting with the Tx2 
(calls and report) message is the case, at least with the present R-8055 build 
that I'm using. When a station is initially called with the Tx2 message, what 
is received in reply is a Tx3 (calls plus R-report) message. A high percentage 
of the almost 4,000 FT8 QSOs that I have made in the past 2 months have been 
made starting with the Tx2 message. 

You will find stations starting with the TX2 message in order to work callers 
at a faster pace. Skipping the grid and saving 15 seconds , as is often being 
done, is very important, especially when conditions are marginal.

Sending a grid square is not a requirement for a QSO to be valid. Send, 
receiving and confirming the reception of those reports is required.

I hope that the 'feature' which you described of getting the message sequence 
'back on track' does NOT become part of future builds and eventually the new RC 
release, which should be out soon.

73,

Rich - K1HTV 
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[wsjt-devel] Suggestion

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

Would it be useful to add the revision version to the top line on the main 
screen? something like:
WSJT-X v1.7.1-devel-r7997 by K1JT
When you have a couple versions on the computer, it would help to know you are 
using the right one.
Thanks to all the development team folks who have helped me get FT8 playing 
well. 24 states and 12 countries so far.
Bill Turner, W4WNT



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Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK-Win32 Upgrade Available - Important Update for Compiling Hamlib

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

Thanks Greg, the maintenance worked fine.  For the benefit of those of us still 
learning JTSDK you might point out that Maintenance is a file called "maint" in 
the JTSDK folder.
Thanks for all the work you folks are doing to make WSJT spectacular.
Bill, W4WNT


  From: Greg Beam 
 To: wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com; 'WSJT software development' 
; ws...@groups.io; jt...@groups.io 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 2:06 PM
 Subject: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK-Win32 Upgrade Available - Important Update for 
Compiling Hamlib
   
Hello All,

The Hamlib development team recently made a slight change to their build
invocation. As result, a minor change to the JTSDK-Win Hamlib3 build script
was required. 

TO UPGRADE:
* Open JTSDK Maintenance
* Type: update
* Type: upgrade
* Close, then reopen JTSDK Maintenance
* Type: version

You should now be on v2.0.6-0 Release 710 [1]

If you have problems with the update, post them on jt...@groups.io

[1] jtsdk-win-2.0.6.png

73's
Greg, KI7MT
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: How to handle using RR73 as a final

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How about R-73 to avoid confusion with grids RR-73?
Bill, W4WNT

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  On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Rich - K1HTV wrote:
G4WJS.  



Bill,
 Regarding the use of "RR73", I believe that it should be formalized as an 
option to the present "73" TX5 message. 




Let's look at this senario regarding when a QSO is assumed to be complete:

Station #1 sends Station #2 a report.
Station #2 sends either "RRR" or "RR73" because he has received Station #1's 
"RR-report".


At this point Station #2 believes the QSO is complete because of the rogers he 
has heard in the "RRR" or "RR-report" 
which has been received.




But Station #1 still needs to have confirmed that his "RRR" or "RR73" report 
has been received.

This confirmation in the mind of Station#1 is realized if:
1) An "RRR" or "RR73" message is received from #2. 
2) He copies Station #2 that he was working immediately calling CQ or 
responding to another station.




In either of these two cases, the contact can be assumed to be complete. There 
would be no need for station #2 to 
continue sending either "73" or a repeat of "RR73". I believe that if either 
TX5 messages ("73" or optional "RR73") 
is sent, it should only be sent only once, then the TX disabled, if this option 
is checked.




However..if Station #1 does NOT hear Station #2 either calling "CQ" or 
another station, then there will be a 
question in his mind of the QSO being complete. This can happen under rapidly 
changing propagation conditions, as 
happens on 50 MHz. In that case, I would assume that Station #1 would continue 
sending his "RR-report" in hopes that 
Station #2 would see that Station #1 still needed a confirmation. If Station #2 
saw this, he would have to click "TX Enable" and send another "73" or "RR73".




Thanks for the coding that you have been doing to make the WSJT-X suite of 
modes the success that they have become.




73,
Rich - K1HTV





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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 13:18:01 +0100
From: Bill Somerville 
To: WSJT software development 
Subject: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: How to handle using RR73 as a final
 message
Message-ID: <83d72269-18c6-a0ee-1f35-f19987dc1...@classdesign.com>
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Hi All,

we are looking at changing the WSJT-X logic such that a grid message of 
the form:

"  RR73"

is treated as a sign off message.

This has several implications and I need some clarification so that I 
can adjust the code. For now I will put aside any potential issues for 
holders of compound callsigns as I have not analysed the impact for them 
yet.

The first change is already in place, sending such an RR73 message is 
treated the same as sending a standard 73 message or any free text 
message containing the word "73". This means that, if prompt to log 
after 73 is set the log QSO window will be popped up, and if 
"Settings->General->Behavior->Disable Tx after 73" is checked, auto 
transmit will be disabled and the next message to be sent will be moved 
on to Tx6 (CQ message). This part is straightforward.

I propose to add a check box option to "Settings->General->Behavior" 
along the lines of "Use RR73 in place of RRR", when checked this would 
generate the above RR73 message for the Tx4 (RRR) message, thus 
formalizing the usage of RR73 as a final QSO message.

So now the questions. If we have disabled auto Tx and switched the next 
message to Tx6/CQ, how do we proceed if no "73" message is received from 
ones QSO partner. Listening on the bands it seems that sending an RR73 
message has some special significance in that it is always assumed to be 
received by ones QSO partner. This may be reasonable in propagation such 
that any subsequent messages can be taken by ones QSO partner to mean 
that the QSO is indeed complete even if the RR73 message was never decoded.

For example if you have called a station calling CQ, received a report, 
sent a R+report and then get no decode from them in the next period; 
then the next decode from the other station is a CQ call or them giving 
a report to a different station or even calling another station on a 
different frequency, then are we safe to assume that our QSO was 
complete and there is no requirement to repeat the R+report message (the 
normal action if an RRR message is not decoded) or even send a 73 
message ourselves? BTW this does beg the question of how a station 
running a frequency completes their last QSO on a band, do we take 
silence to be an indication that a missed RR73 decode was in fact sent.

The above is fairly easy to implement in that, if an RR73 message is 
received from ones QSO partner ones next message will be set to Tx5/73 
(note not RR73) and if prompt to log is checked the log QSO window will 
pop up. Also if "Settings->General->Behavior->Disable Tx after 73" is 
checked, auto transmit will be disabled. In other words, receiving an 
RR73 

[wsjt-devel] FT8 suggestion

[Bill Turner via wsjt-devel]

I have been using my compiled versions of WSJTX for several days and have been 
blown away with what you all have accomplished.  Downloaded 1.8.0 from JOe's 
website and it is spectacular.
Joe had indicated that FT8 would be a contest mode and that is quite good as 
long as you are operating a running station. Calling CQ and letting the 
software find responses on your frequency. I worked 4 contacts in eight minutes 
tonight (slow as I was adding names from QRZ to the WSJTX log).
Could you consider having two forms of FT8, one as is for running stations and 
one for Search and Pounce operation?  If the data sent in 12 to 13 seconds or 
less can be decoded and presented, that would leave the operator 3 to 5 seconds 
to find a station that is calling CQ and answer him or her.  FT8R and FT8S for 
example. If the data can be decoded in 10 seconds, you would have 5 seconds to 
look for a station CQing.
Thanks to all of the team for the great work you have put into WSJTX.
Bill Turner, W4WNT
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